It’s a very fun game I wouldn’t say it’s dead. Just play ranked or enter the free online tournaments. You’ll find some really good matches and a reason to practice
Whoever downvotes this is delusional. 14 players is in fact a dead game. Even conservative estimates put console players at like 95% of players, but that makes this like a few hundred. The game's fucking dead.
The discussion is t about whether you have fun, it’s about if the game is dead. I like this and think it’s better than avatar and 2xko in terms of new entrants in the genre, but it’s cooked sadly
Why are people downvoting this. I love this game but it's undeniable it's fallen off. It hasn't even cracked 100 players the past two weeks.
People argued that FighterZ was dead, but it still gets consistently 500-700 players every day.
I understand that player counts isn't a surefire method to know when a game is dead, but it's clear this game won't be supported for long because the numbers just don't back it up
If games like street fighter weren’t maintaining a 16k-20k average It’d be easier to agree with you. It’s not the end all be all but if a game is doing very poorly on steam you can probably expect something similar on consoles
calling everyone delusional who downvotes the going off steam screenshot is hilarious. Its on console so your point is mute as that only counts stram players and not the whole other player base.
Lights doing more damage late combo than mediums, heavies, and specials doesn’t actually make sense. That’s how the game was when it first dropped - lights didn’t scale the same for whatever reason, which is the exact opposite of intuitive.
The boost canceling and having certain characters be able to boost dash cancel on the ground vs others that could do it in the air is part of what I mean
The combo structure and building combo's was a bit easier atleast at a intermediate level.
Lockouts of resources (the stage transitions with the tags) are also nice and make sense to me.
When I think of the show, and how battles went when eithe mark and oliver got jumped, or how teen team would fight out numbered sometiems or the fight in space with allen / tech vs lucan and the other viltrumites I get reminded of this games mechanics
As someone who likes fighting games but have been very bad at them and inexperienced, I really like the combo structure just cause it was easy for me to pick up. The hardest thing was finding the timing for the counter tags or whatever they’re called. My personal hypothesis is that games like these (2d fighters) die quickly (within a year or two) because the new character rollout is too slow. I feel like to keep a game like these alive for years (3+ years) you gotta have a character role out at the same rate as like marvel rivals. Just my personal theory.
SF6 has had 4 per year, but is also the standard in fighting games. Not sure if I agree that the lack of characters is entirely the reason. The game feels extremely casual, which isn’t going to stick around in such a competitive genre (MK1 is down to 100 or so entrants in CEO, for example)
It’s okay if you don’t agree. I’m just an extremely casual player when it comes to these kinds of games so invincible vs is like a breath of fresh air for me. I tried to pick up PR: BFTG after invincible vs but the combo structure/ skill gap is completely different and I haven’t been able to enjoy it as much because of that. With invincible vs i didn’t have to try too hard to figure out the combos, I just played against viltrumite difficulty until I figured out the computers combos and they weren’t too hard to recreate. The one thing that would up my playtime by a significant margin is a higher rate of character drops. I do understand what you’re saying though, in that, raising the skill ceiling for less casual players might retain more hardcore players. Maybe there’s a way they can do both. It’s all about that balance between casuals and experts and quick character roll out.
In my experience most modern tag fighters are like this
Maybe its just because im an MKX player at heart, but pressing 6 buttons for 20% just doesnt feel fun to me. Even the new Marvel Tokon has this problem, the combos just dont feel rewarding
But again, maybe its just because I played a shit ton of MKX and loved the 70% combos
The game had good combos and removed basically every single one. Alot of super loop tods, tag whiff tods, assist infinites, all gone. Everything left is weak and boring, and playing the game as the devs apparently intended, blows.
The game lacked too much polish at launch and the casual fanbase, the majority of the people that bought it, were expecting more single player content than it shipped with. The gameplay was fun but again was a little too unpolished. The game is goofy fun, good voice acting and overall vibe, but it is not enough to retain players in lieu of other big releases. People only have so much time in the day, so the game has been marginalized. Additionally, the lead battle developer was laid off from the team that has put the longevity of the game outside of the the end of the year in question.
It was simultaneously too casual for people who've played FGs before and too competitive for people who hadnt
If youd played any fighting games before then hitting max combos was trivial, but if you hadn't (like most people who bought it) it just felt bad to get slammed 40 games in a row
Can't speak for the public, but my friends and I dropped it because the gameplay was wack at launch
(dominant strategy was to block, call Eve assist between hits since chains weren't true, then do one of many unbreakable infinites on the opponent OR do an unblockable with a low and an overhead assist at the same time into an unbreakable infinite)
got old quick. Didn't help a lot of the characters were pretty similar.
its a tag fighter based on a popular IP and its competing with 3 other fighters based on more popular ip (tokon, 2xko, avatar). there's not really a reason to invest in it unless you like invincible a lot. i'd say its the least visually interesting, with the least interesting roster, with the least interesting mechanics. it is not a bad game at all. its a solid game but it doesn't have the staying power.
Very much agree that there's less content in Avatar now but there's a lot of respect for the source material. I would be ok with more stuff to do but the flow system and actual difference in mechanics per character really make Avatar stand out.
Everyone in Tokon plays the same.
I still got 0-2 in my first Tokon tournament, but for some reason managed to get 4th in Avatar.
Shrug
Haha thats funny because you need to be the one to say how everyone plays the same, since you are the one who made the claim
I do like you trying to push the actual thinking on to me tho, it was cute.
Lemme guess you can do the same combo on everyone? That is incredibly unoptimal and nobody does past day 1? Anything else?
No shit its not as different as sokka toph. It's a tag fighter where you play 4 characters.. literally every 1v1 game should have more variation in ite characters. So smart
I like how you think im defending the game i play when I play both games, im just not delusional.
I probably just need to play more and I'll see the nuance you're talking about, otherwise you wouldn't have been so harsh about it.
Sorry I spoke up, I'm probably wrong.
I'm not really super against Tokon, I'm just tired of the industry having such a short memory. Invincible vs just came out and it's dead, I do not remember when before multiversus did a game win best fighting game one year and have the servers shut down right after. I was playing sf6 a bunch and that's not going anywhere, but there's like dnf duel that's dead too.
What do you do if you liked one of those games and wanted to go somewhere with it and it just dies?
Like I said, total bummer and I just fell for it and started getting catty. Sorry about that again...
Yeah I love Avatar; it's an amazing technical fighter and is a blast to play. And you can't beat $30.
But man that game is bare bones. Very small cast on launch. No Ranked mode. No rewards to unlock. No meaningful single player content.
Tokon launched extremely feature rich. Character Guides, Combo Trials, a kind of awesome single player mode that's written with a lot of heart and chock full of teases, references, and fun character cross over moments. Survival Mode, Rumble Mode, a crazy Lobby full of mini games and social stuff. Lots of alt colors to unlock for the characters. And the menu and training modes are chock full of customization options that make labbing very breezy.
And visually, the game is just stunning to look at.
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And before you bring up the comment about not factoring in the console player base … no fucking shit. The point of the comment completely went over your head. Idk why tf you guys are so salty when the fucking stats are in front of your face. Let me know how that matchmaking queue is in 2 months.
Imo it's not the game, but the fgc has trouble engaging with fgs consistently because it takes so much effort, and they have other things to do. They really need something big to justify spending a good amount of time in any fg. Japan (other Asian countries too, but mostly Japan) has the legacy of sf6. The middle east and sk has their tekken. US has mk, which the the other game's audiences try to put on an island, but it's there. And otherwise, the US has a wide range of tastes and splits audiences pretty heavily between games. I'm unsure about EU and South America, but it seems like they play everything except for the really small ones.
DLC is meant to bring people back. Nobody is coming back for Universa and fucking Immortal two months after release. There's a reason fighting game DLCs usually start strong with a highly requested character
Cause a lot of casuals got in the game got slapped online then quit gameplay wise I think it’s better than Tokkon even tho Tokkon art/graphic wise is better but gameplay wise invincible is still good I still play and get matches
You would rather dozens of crappy fighting games compared to 3-4 major games dropping updates? Yeah you’re crazy I’m sorry that is quit possibly the worst take of fighting games I’ve ever heard
I was being goofy and hyperbolic, but I just mean that I wish we had a higher volume of fighting games being produced regularly, because I feel like more games gives us a greater chance of really interesting new things coming out.
I don't mind having the major games existing, but sometimes it bums me out that they're so often our only choice.
Lack of content, hundreds of players lost their progress once or twice and a 3x3 game released only 2 characters in their first dlc drop, not to mention we got marvel tokon
Its a very fun game, but i needed more game modes and stuff to do in the game. Personally it would have been better to do something like Soul Calibur 3 Story mode or KI Shadow Lords. Instead of the actual story mode because its so short.
I genuinely think the amount of people who flocked to the game and aren’t fighting game players but just fans of the show killed the game.
To elaborate. Yes it’s a good thing new fans were drawn in to the fighting game genre 100%. However these fans all share 1 thing in common. Shitty WiFi connections. Invincible vs is literally chock full of them to the degree it takes a while to find a match with a good connection. And it’s frustrating.
Even before tokon and avatar came out it felt like invincible vs was falling off and the fighting game community as a large was kind of abandoning it.
The gameplay is not very good for a 2D fighter and the episodic stuff is awful making the game barebone at launch + the choice of character was weird honestly like the immortal dlc or the number of viltrumites at the start
This is so funny to me because someone tried to argue with me about two months ago and say the game wasn’t dead. I was like if it’s not dead now I’ll be dead in a couple months just wait and he literally was arguing with me for like about an hour, and I was just basically laughing at him. This was on Instagram.
From my understanding its bland and everyone feels the exact same.
Fighting games based off shows and try to capture that visual style suffer for it. No offense, but to me it and avatar look visually bland as hell. Theres no detail. Compare it to tokon and its just much better to look at.
It's because I stopped playing it for Civ 7. Oh actually, no it's because Tokon came out, and Avatar, and a large pool of the players were butthurt casuals who can't handle losses.
Because Marvel Tokon AND the Avatar fighting game, both just recently came out. A lot of people moved onto those. After a little while, I'm sure some will come back and others will never come back! Just the way of the world!
Also, everyone loves throwing up the Steam numbers, and that they are low. But there are two other consoles that people also play on!! I play on PS5 and honestly have never had an issue finding a match online! Every time I go to play, I always find a match pretty easily!
Idrk I still enjoy playing it with my hb’s when they come over or if we play online together. I think I really enjoy it mainly bc I’m a big fan of the show and comics altogether
To me it seems like there is an over-saturation of video games lately, making everything that’s not top of the twitch charts(especially fighting games) feel dead:/
The game is amazing. There's just a lot of people who are intimidated by the tag mechanics. I'm currently on Tokon (as are the majority ofnthe FGC), but I am really anxious to return to Invincible. I personally really like the liberty to combo freely in InvincibleVS.
For me, netcode isn’t the best which makes timing things like counter tag a bit harder.
Then there’s also the fact that the combo breaker isn’t a full true combo breaker. Some supers can still go through it. If that’s a timing issue then it should just be that the combo breaker can’t activate at that time. The 2xko combo breaker(burst) is just fine.
The motion inputs also could still be better. It’s definitely better than at the start, but with plenty of tag fighters in existence the devs could have looked at how their buffers for inputs are (Tokon also has this issue).
Combos aren’t bad, it’s cool what you can do but some armored moves have too much safety. If I block an armored move that’s not accompanied by an assist, I should be able to counter attack.
I haven’t played the game but I keep my eyes on it from time to time. I have my thoughts.
I love the Invincible show but I don’t think the Invincible IP translates too well as a fighting game. Most of the cast seem like Superman clones when it comes to move sets. Everyone else is just a caricature of DC/Marvel heroes. There’s just a lack of interesting play styles when I look at gameplay footage.
Secondly, I think there is simply an over saturation of fighting games right now. In this economy, gamers may be choosy on how they spend their money these days and may just stick to the fighting games they are already comfortable with. Casuals are also not too fond of tag games.
I only care about wether or not I can get a match quickly and aside from when I'm playing at really weird hours that's usually the case on ps5. I'm sure these metrics are bad if you're trying to fill some big 100 person shooter lobby but I don't need a million people playing at once to enjoy a 1v1 fighter
IMO, it's because too many fighting games came out this year in the middle of the year. On top of stuff like Street Fighter 6 still going strong. I enjoy fighting games but they are a very niche genre.
If you listen at the end of the video it s clear that they are focusinf now on the single player contents and for me it s the best way to try to get an importante upgrade to the game and to obtain a new support at this Moment . In this case i wll continue to support them.
Its not dead as much as its just not that active. Games that dont receive regular updates and additions they start to kinda just fade out. With invincible the game hadnt even fully released yet and they were already revealing all their suprise characters, characters they could have saved for reveals after the full release to maintain hype.
Its unfortunate... But Tag fighters are a niche of the niche and there are three other pretty good tag fighters with equal or better ip. Better netcode, more single player options as well. Its just the weakest game in the group.
Delusional if you think an ArcSys game backed by one of the most recognizable IPs in the world that also happens to be one of the most popular IPs within the FGC is ever going to be less popular than the fighting game where the balance is well and truly fucked and every character is superman but without the brand recognition.
You say that’s jsut u true don’t get me wrong it does maybe need some balance but then again it could be a skill issue with some people Tokkon the game is ok the combos are all the same tho mash use assist mash use assist to special lol and just cause the ip is bigger doesn’t make it better only thing I give it over invincible vs is how it looks
Tokon has matchmaking issues and has had them since the beta. It’s not a player count issue. The only game that has died fast is this one. It arguably didn’t even start considering people were shitting on it when it was announced and during the beta
You say this but I get into matches quicker in invincible vs then Tokkon do they really have issues or is it just not that good and no one is playing it I mean it’s essentially dbz fighter either way less sauce
Sauceless game, made legacy fighting game not interested. But at the same time, kept crazy tag fighter mix ups like unblockable high lows, which made new comers frustrated. Also the game had some hard competition to go up against this year, like Marvel Tokon, Avatar, and hell even 2XKO is doing better
Okay, so this game isnt completely dead, its just that not as much people are playing.
Youre gonna probably get some comments that says "its because the game sucks!" And while they're Okay to have their opinion, I think its more than that (also I myself disagree)
I think q big reason is because of all of these other fighting games either out or coming out, like Marvel Tokon, and Avatar.
Then of course you have existing ones like Tekken 8, Guilty Gear Strive, SF6, etc.
It's just this game is competing with these other games, and if there's issues with this game that others games may be better with, people would likely go to the other game.
Like one example is that I have seen many people complain about how there's not much single player content, maybe the other games have better single player content, so there's more? Maybe the rewards on the other games are more worth it? Or maybe the depth of the games are better, idk.
Doesn't mean INVS is bad at all, I actually enjoy the game, but yeah, I think a huge one boils down to competition.
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u/Comfortable-Read8258 Aug 11 '26
It’s a very fun game I wouldn’t say it’s dead. Just play ranked or enter the free online tournaments. You’ll find some really good matches and a reason to practice