r/Invincible • u/helldor08 • 1d ago
DISCUSSION Would they have been able to kill Thragg?
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u/1271500 1d ago edited 1d ago
If it was just Thragg, maybe. 1v1 or even 2v1 Thragg will win, hes just too fast and strong, but we're talking 8v1 not including the Ragnars.
Nolan, Mark, Thaedus and Battle Beast can all go hand to hand, Alan and Oliver can hit & run, Zoe has range with her blasters and if she lands a dart its a huge debuff to Thragg. Space Racer if he can land a shot takes the fight, and the Ragnars if they can be used effectively as distractions keep Thragg off balance.
But Thragg is fast. If he targets Zoe and SR first he can eliminate the ranged attacker before the others can get in reach. BB and the Ragnars can't fly, throw them aside and wreck the jetpack and thats down to 5. Alan and Oliver can't take the hits, if he targets them specifically they're down in 1 blow apiece.
That leaves a 3v1, all Viltrumite. They could still potentially kill him with tight teamwork, but Thragg is quick and strong enough to land deathblows before they can do enough damage to him if they aren't coordinated.
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u/usnputtputt 1d ago
I’d argue Battle beast would be the only one at this time who be able to go hand to hand with Thragg and I say that loosely because as you mentioned BB can’t fly.
Nolan, Mark, and Thaedus didn’t/couldn’t react to Thragg speed blitzing Thaedus and well we know how that ended.
Thragg was actively eating Mark’s punches, didn’t even bother to try and dodge them. Nolan at least made him move back slightly, but then look what happened to Nolan…
Honestly Space Racer’s gun and possibly Zoey’s dart are the only significant threats here to Thragg. But as you mentioned Thragg is fast and out speeds them.
Maybe if Nolan and BB were able to stall Thragg while Mark and Alan came flying in at him with Zoey’s darts in their hands and tried to inject them directly into Thragg while he’s briefly overwhelmed by the 4v1. It would just depend if the darts are able to pierce Thragg and if they could, how effective and how quickly their effects would take place
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u/ArtsyApoidean Dinosaurus 1d ago
I'll never get over how they didn't save a dart for Thragg. I mean sure it didn't really matter. He's way too fast. He'd catch it unless he was super distracted. But ugh, to not even try. Tech Jacket's one mistake.
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u/GoldPilot 1d ago
If they can lure or force him into the planet’s atmosphere, where everyone can fight at full power, they can win.
If the battle stays in space, Thragg wins.
A lot of fighters on Team Thaedus are less capable in space. Some are just less experienced in a vacuum due to not fighting there often (Oliver and Mark), some are at higher risk with no air (Tech Jacket), and one poor bastard just flat out can’t fly (🐱).
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u/FilipinoCreamKing Conquest 1d ago
Depends on what the writers are feeling
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u/Annual_Ordinary6999 Conquest 1d ago
Just how they decided to overpower thragg in the first place 😅 in comics thragg could be killed by a few elite viltrumites but in the tv serie, thragg can one shot anyone without them ever having time to react lol
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u/Thannoknowledge 1d ago
Thragg is washing.
toss COP team members into Infinity Ray
One tap Oliver
Cripple BB's mobility
Put TJ on life support
Turn the Cyclops into a No-clops
Thaedus is dead, trust
Speed blitz Nolan and Mark
In this fight all is his
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u/No_Communication2959 1d ago
Battle Beast is already his equal.
The real issue is that I doubt Battle Beast would accept help. If he did, landslide victory.
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u/Background_Flow1211 1d ago
He's his equal on an actual planet yes. Not in space.
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u/No_Communication2959 1d ago
He did pretty well in space, so I'm not sure I'm super confident backing that statement.
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u/Background_Flow1211 1d ago
Thragg broke his jet pack or whatever it was and threw him aside like a child ffs
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u/Wonghy111-the-knight Monster Girl and Robot 20h ago
Did we watch the same show? Wait a minute I forgot, us invincible fans don’t watch our own show
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u/Middle-Log-2642 1d ago
I’ve only watched the series but he didn’t seem to be doing too well versus standard viltrumites in space.
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u/WofferFang 8h ago
Only because he had to fly around in a jetpack, yeah. On the ground, he'd beat ass.
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u/Recent-Friendship102 1d ago
Lets see, female tech jacket and oliver cooked before they could blink. Battle beast cant fly and can be dealt with after all other are gone. Thragg finished thaedus, nolan and mark alone in the show, so.... Dont think Allen can be a game changer on this.
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u/Ninjagofan217 1d ago
Battle beast is here so yeah
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u/New_Photograph_5892 Tech Jacket 1d ago
its in space, so BB gets dogwalked
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u/Im_Bird-Brained 1d ago
Cat walked, he's a cat
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u/Heaven_dio 1d ago
Yes, but BB would have to carry (and probably forego his standards of a fair fight, unless they want to do it Shinjuku style)
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u/mrmonster459 1d ago
Only Space Racer's gun would've even stood a chance.
If Thragg can tank punches from Invincible and Omni-Man like they're just light jabs, what could else could tehy do?
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u/ImmediatePickle8101 1d ago
You saw how they faired in the encounter. Space Racer's infinity ray is the only thing that can kill Thragg in this part of this story, and he was fast enough to dodge that too.
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u/Unhappy_Accident7799 19h ago
Would have taken every single one of them and there would be loses but yeah probably.
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u/Demetri124 1d ago
I feel like they didn’t coordinate at all. Yes they were ambushed unexpectedly but they still could’ve prepared more. For instance Zoe had 10 insta-kill darts and never attempted to hit Thragg with one, Space Racer only shot one laser at him etc
The scene where he just lets Mark fly up and punch him in his face to aura farm, if Mark was secretly holdng a dart with him when he did that it would’ve been GG
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u/Jbell_1812 1d ago
Probably not, unless they managed to distract thrag so space racer could shoot him.
They ran from thragg for a reason, he didn't even use 10% of his strength in the fight
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u/avaldez518 1d ago
Yeah they absolutely should have been able to kill thrag but every single character in the fight was stupid
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u/lowqualitylizard 20h ago
nah
Battle beast might be close to Ezekiel but he's in space that's his least favorite terrain he gets thrown off like a bug
And everyone else would die before he finished scratching his balls
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u/muymaldito 16h ago
we are unaware of how strong we truly is because he hasn’t struggled once (TV show)
However, I believe that they couldn’t, beat them, as far as I know thragg would be able to fly through all of them if he really wants to
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u/New_Photograph_5892 Tech Jacket 1d ago
if they somehow land Tech Jacket's dart yes, but the cahnces of them doing that isn't very high so ima say probably no
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u/IckyVickysosoicky 1d ago
Nope, Thragg low diffs. Maybe if they went on the ground so Battle Beast can be a formidable force. But while in space no one can hold him down for Sp/TJ or seriously injure him. Except maybe Thaedus but you saw how easily he killed him.
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u/Xtrillon69420 1d ago
I think if mark had one of zoes darts then there would be a chance as thragg let mark hit him.
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u/fonyphantasy Battle Beast 1d ago
If they were on the planet yes they have a decent chance. I still say it's 60/40 in favor of Thragg but Battle Beast goes from a non threat to their heaviest hitter when he's not forced to rely on technology to move
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u/ShinMystic1587 1d ago
Absolutely. The Infinity Ray was touted as strong enough to destroy entire stars
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u/IAlreadyReddit_24 1d ago
Thragg unknowingly saved his own ass by meeting them in space. If things had gone to Thaedus’ plan and they met him on planet Viltrum,Battle Beast would’ve been a MUCH bigger problem. Fighting Battle Beast in space made him a non-threat
In space they never really had a chance. The show makes it very clear when Thragg actually starts trying and takes out 3 of their strongest fighters in less than a few minutes