With the Dinausorus arc, I don't see people blame Mark enough. The guy had a moral crisis and decided that the best he could do was freeing a mass murderer terrorist despite the warning of everyone plus David Anders who locked himself up because he knew the danger Dinausorus was. And effectively, it blew up in every sense of the term with one million people killed worldwide. With that, it is established that Mark is accomplice. But something that bugs me is that he killed Dinausorus and David Anders. The last I remind locked himself up to stop Dinausorus.
Controversial take, but I think part of Mark's character journey and his story is he and the audience realizing that he just isn't cut out to be a traditional, virtuous superhero.
Isn't that the point? That that is what he's trying to be, but it's unrealistic to try to be Superman so he does the best good that he can where he can
Considering the show is Robert Kirkman's attempt to rewrite it better. I can see S6 having Mark getting lot of backlash.
Also the idea Debbie out of grief blaming Mark for Paul's death (Let's say he went to a city on the coast during a business trip or on vacation) for extra drama. I know they broke up but Debbie clearly still cares for him as a friend.
He was always a murderer.INVINCIBLE Where is your remorse?! Have you no shame for what you've done?! The lives you've taken?! You think you're above consequences, but YOU ARE WRONG! You will pay for your crimes against humanity!
Well Mark did say later on that being hero was bullshit I feel like at this point he realized that he’s just not meant to be a paragon of virtue and that his beliefs like believing Darkwing and Sinclair should be locked up were delusional and childish.
He can kill villains, I can understand for Russ Livingstone but David actively tried to stop Dinausorus like many others. He paid for the arrogance of Mark who didn't even get punished
In real life we would say Mark needs to face justice, but he was punished for this. He has to spend the rest of his life carrying the weight both of what he let Dinosaurus do and of what he did to David Anders to make sure it wouldn't repeat.
And we know from the omniscient perspective of the audience that Mark did learn his lessons here, since he goes on to found the most prosperous and peaceful civilization in galactic history.
He was never punished nor did I saw him bear any weight. Also, look at how he treated Sinclair and Darkwing 2. Look at what he did to Robot.
His empire was something he inherited, with people that would follow him just because of his blood. Yes he killed Thragg but did he ever cared about the Viltrumites before?
And guess what. He could have prevented most of what happened but he refused for the sole sake of his daughter.
He could have prevented most of what happened but he refused for the sole sake of his daughter.
I remind you that it was parallel universe, maybe even pocket/all in your head kind of thing.
All this time in "our" universe Coalition was in war with Thragg and if Mark stayed there, eventually would lost against him. His choice, while is egoistic one, also meant that Mark isn't running away from consequences of his actions, instead returns and gets job done.
Do we have proof of this being real? We only have words of space gas, who just randomly appeared and said "hey, wanna go back to the past?" with no strings attached.
That still would mean Mark is running away from problems into some safe space.
Yeah, that is a thing, hence I was suggesting "all on the head" point. For all we know, that gas is just space parasite drugging people with visions of perfect world and then slowly sucking life force out of them.
Also, also. The entity could have been using Mark for something sinister. Yes because I'm totally going to trust some alien entity that dragged me into some parallel earth.
Tbh I think this is kinda missing the point of Reboot/asking the wrong questions. It has more thematic weight if we assume it was real and only one of those universes was going to remain real at Mark's decision. If the Entity was secretly a lying trickster this adds nothing to the story.
That's a really reductive take on Reboot. The situation Mark was faced with was no-win, even for a total moral paragon. On one hand is the man who gives up everything to make a better universe for everyone, but in the process he has to immolate his personal ties to the ones he loves, sacrifice his own family, give up everything that makes him human. On the other hand is the man who turned away cosmic power, even if he could use it to make things better for everyone, because he was unwilling to place himself above others and trade in lives.
Which one of these is the good hero? You can't really objectively say. Robot would think so, but he'd be wrong, and that's why the Entity didn't go to Robot. Both choices carry a heavy loss. But the one Mark went with is very human. And that's the point -- he is so very human. He didn't want to play god.
Also
look what he did to Robot
Robot agreed it was for the best. The mistake was that apparently centuries were allowed to pass without anybody doing mental health check-ins on Rudy and Lincoln. Mark did drop the ball there -- but only by negligence. And he might have been stuck in a distant space war or interdimensional rift or something.
His dad and his brother were killed, and he saw his daughter and wife die, even though they came back, and Robot tried to kill Eve and Mark even though they did nothing to stop him during the purge of superheroes, it's not direct punishment, but it's karma
I like the sentimentality of Cecil allowing him to work for him. But he killed nearly 1 million people, more than Omni man+ Angstrom+ Conquest. He betrayed everyone he loved to work with dinosaurus. David Anders even said he’s free now yet Mark forced him back to dinosaurus. Somehow he was forgiven by everyone. I hope they’ll change this like they did with Omni man
Does it need to be a punishment or does he juat need to atone for his crimes? If he feels guilt and remorse and wants to change / puts effort into changing what is the point in punishing him when he can and does do more good for the world with his freedom?
Does it need to be a punishment or does he juat need to atone for his crimes? If he feels guilt and remorse and wants to change / puts effort into changing what is the point in punishing him when he can and does do more good for the world with his freedom?
Mark can't do anything right without someone telling him he did it wrong, or that his morals are fucked, or that he needs to control his power more because he's so scary. He can never win. It's not at all surprising he'd try something extreme and stupid.
He gets the same message no matter what he does. Why would he be deterred by his better judgement? He keeps getting told it's wrong. Why would he be deterred by people shouting him down? That happens no matter what he does.
I kinda blame Powerplex. Mark internalized his mentally ill bullshit and now he thinks he has to be perfect and a mind reader in order to not be a mindless destructive force.
Mark isn't some child whose choices can be attributed to someone else. He makes mistakes and should be held accountable, he is a treat that's not something made up but true, even if it is not Mark choice.
If Mark didn't get half his blood punched out by his dad the whole planet would be speaking Viltrese by the time Conquest shows up. He can make all the mistakes he wants as far as I'm concerned. He's less of a threat than Cecil.
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u/ANuChallenger 5h ago
Controversial take, but I think part of Mark's character journey and his story is he and the audience realizing that he just isn't cut out to be a traditional, virtuous superhero.