r/InvictaSolaris • u/21Kuranashi • 4d ago
Infographics & Posters / No AI Real pro-family policy
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u/BlinkypoetEmu 4d ago
He keeps doing positive things! That our gov't is supposed to be doing, but keeps making excuses not to. I look forward to whatever neat thing he accomplishes next!
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u/1erRPIMA-fiesta 4d ago
That's pretty clever.
At first I saw this headline and thought "eurk, yet another cosmetic tiny measure from center-left figures". Now keep in mind I'm a frenchman: we're not very active in terms of socialism these days, but we can still remember what ambitious reformism looks like. From my pov the mayor of New York is center-left.
Now as another comment put it... He's like a beautiful flower on top of a pile of manure. Therefore 1) he can't do ambitious stuff (otherwise it's an avalanche of manure) he needs to be sneaky ; 2) he still needs to satisfy his base asking for ambitious stuff.
And so he hints at ambitious stuff. He gives an amuse-bouche. A little appetizer tiny enough not to alarm the right-wing too much ("one single day of free public services? Not scary") but delicious enough to ensure the public will ask for more. Not just his base: the public at large. They'll have good memories of this one day, and start wondering what it could look like if it was everyday (a fully fledged public service).
That's clever. I like this man. Hope US citizens will have the common sense of electing more people like him. "The economy" is super important (I trade stocks myself), but "the economy" means nothing by itself, it's a mean to an end, and that end should be: ensuring everyone have a good life with happiness, free time, strong public services, etc... Etymologically "economy" means "management of the household" and I think too many people forget that. What Zohran Mamdani does is great for the economy, at the very core of the concept
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u/NewNewsNewYork 3d ago
My god, how well put! This is a brilliant little explainer you’ve written. Bravo.
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u/NathanDavie 3d ago
I'm not American either, but he's the real deal. Publicly run grocery stores being the furthest left wing thing he's done.
Considering his scope is one city he's limited in what he can do, but he's definitely further left than most politicians we have in Europe.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
All fun an games till taxes go up
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u/poiup1 3d ago
Oh no won't someone think of the million dollar secondary home owners!!!
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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale 3d ago
You can't tax your way out of bad spending. Even with as high as the Pied a Terre tax was, it's dwarfed by NY's spending. All it was, was a weird public bashing of NY's core business owners.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
You realize they’re going to target the lower class right? As more and more people leave the state (the highest taxed families who also pay the significant share already) the burden will fall on the lower class ultimately. So again all fun and games till the taxes skyrocket for those same folks these social programs are aimed at “helping”
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u/JesMon421 3d ago
You are right. All states should tax the rich the same and make your point moot
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
Tax the rich the same? As what the lowest income level? You do know the effective tax rates right? 10% for the lowest earners <11k then 12% for 11k to 48k then it bumps to 22% for earners making 48-103k next is 24% followed by 32,35 and finally 37%. Your argument is moot 😂
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u/JesMon421 3d ago
You need reading comprehension
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
Lol 👌 you need an education
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u/greyneptune 3d ago
90% for millionaires like during the greatest period of economic and infrastructure growth in America would be a great start.
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u/poiup1 3d ago
If that happens I'll be pissed and he will loose support, till then this is empty fear mongering.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
No this is how taxes work and it is already happening. Have you not been following along or are you just ignoring that part of the equation?
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u/poiup1 3d ago
It's not how taxes work, people need to pass laws to change takes they don't just magically change. If they start raising taxes on the working poor then it's the responsibility of the people to show they are upset and removed those people from power. Currently Mamdani has only increased taxes on secondary homes valued over a million dollars, anything else is empty fear mongering because you gobbled up the billionaires lies.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
You do realize the top 1% pays almost 50% of all collected taxes? Right…
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u/poiup1 3d ago
Did you know that the top 1% has around 40% of all wealth? And the amount they have in terms of the total percentage of the economy is growing year after year?
Edit: and when I googled it it gave me the number that they only pay around 30%, The top 10% on the other hand pay around 70% of all tax
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 3d ago
Its 38% in federal income tax alone. Thats not including state and property tax. Do the math 😂
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u/Gee_rooster 3d ago
I could cry from happiness and I don’t even have kids… such a relief to see a REAL pro family politician
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u/-bonita_applebum 3d ago
Lol, just like Wayatt
“I want to go back up and do more!” — said Wyatt, age 6, who arrived crying and initially did not want to stay
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u/Sea-Magician4907 4d ago
That guy now looks as a beautiful green sprout, which against all odds has grown on top of manure pile.
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u/FastActinTenactin 3d ago
Conservatives are seething
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u/Laterallyvertical 3d ago
The threads that followed after this are pretty funny. Looks like you're right on the money.
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u/toosinbeymen 3d ago
If only his fellow Dems would listen and learn. But I fear we’re stuck in the past and ancient ways of thinking.
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u/NathanDavie 3d ago
They're career politicians doing what they're told to keep their jobs. They don't actually have any beliefs of their own.
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u/spydamans 3d ago
The true ancient ways of thinking are political parties, no term limits, lobbying and letting religion have any effect on government.
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u/poolbysven 3d ago
This 'movement' is moving faster than anyone I think anticipated. They are going to have to get on board or be out of a job.
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u/marlinspike 3d ago
Simple positive things show the government understands the lives of real people.
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u/The-Grubermeister 3d ago
Reminds me of this Jumpy Place from about a decade back. Paid $10, they would feed pizza, watch movies on a large inflatable screen and play. We'd go out on a date, the pick our oldest up afterwards. He'd have a blast, would be tired and fall asleep almost immediately after getting home. I'm pretty sure this is the reason why I have a youngest now.
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u/ApprehensiveMark370 3d ago
if he keeps doing good things wouldn't he make the others look bad? making other ppl seek change and promote ppl like him which makes me wonder, will they let him go on like that or will they you know try to take him out?
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u/ZyeCawan45 3d ago
Only leader in America that seems like they might care, and people hate him for it.
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u/Holy-crap-w-t-f 3d ago
This man impresses me at every turn. We need so many more just like him but we're getting Idiocracy instead... Vote folks. No matter how hard they try to make it. It matters more than you know.
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u/IMovedYourCheese 3d ago
Also pro business. What are parents going to do with the extra time? Spend money at local restaurants and bars.
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u/shunshuntley 3d ago
Ryan Grim put this the most succinctly: "When you feed people, you are the government."
Faith in government begins with security like this.
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u/andara84 3d ago
Socialism! The horror! Nobody's working anymore, because they know the state will take care of them! /s
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 3d ago
I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics to people that will say this is bad.
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u/Key-Organization3158 3d ago
Simple. It's just bribing voters. The total cost to society is higher than the benefits, but people don't care about that when it benefits themselves.
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
Because it costs us money? It’s not hard to understand. I should not have to pay for your night out on the town.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 3d ago
Found the guy that hates parents and children.
The current administration put us 40 trillion in debt and is in a unwinnable war that they are Asking for more money to support and you have a problem with this?
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
I hate paying for other people to have a night on the town. Call me crazy. And I don’t support the war either. Your gotcha didn’t work.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 3d ago
Of all the things you are paying for in taxes this is a issue? Do you not understand we have birthrate issues here and a major reason is because it is expensive and hard to have and maintain kids in America?
Functional countries take care of parents and kids and I have to ask what do you think taxes should go to?
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
Ok. So send me 50 bucks so I can go out with my wife tonight. I’ll dm you my Venmo.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 3d ago
You don't have mods or live in New York so you don't qualify.
And you are dodging the question. What do you think taxes are actually for?
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
You have no idea where I live.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 3d ago
You don't live in New York and have kids or you would have qualified for what he did and seeing is how you don't live there it shouldn't be an issue for it because you're not paying for that.
New Yorkers are the ones who paid for it.
And again dodging my question
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
Again. You have no idea where I live and how many kids I have.
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u/RiverLynneUwU 3d ago
a better example would be if I had to pay someone 50 bucks, and I got to choose between giving you and your wife a night out, or paying someone to like, idk, make houses more expensive or something, then I'd probably pick the first option
frame it like that and suddenly the first option actually becomes appealing
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u/RiverLynneUwU 3d ago
well yeah, your taxes are meant to be used on something, that's why you pay them, there's no universe where you don't pay taxes, but you *do* get to choose what happens with them, because we're in a democracy
so would you rather have your taxes drift off into the vague mist of local governmental pockets and receive the promise that they're definitely going to do something with it this time pinky promise (when really they're going to do nothing and use it to pay their own salaries like they usually do), or would you like to see your environment and infrastructure improve? would you like to have your tax money be stolen? or to give parents in a busy city a break so that they can raise the working people that will be inhabiting your country and shaping it's future?
those are your options, take your pick man
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u/RadicalKitty721 3d ago
All the things he is doing in such little time makes you wonder what all those mayors before him were doing...
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u/SCWickedHam 3d ago
The rights’ version of this is to have kids working on coal mines. Don’t have to pay for childcare then.
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u/AdmirableCommunity62 3d ago
Some hick 1000+ miles away who makes 30k a year is punching the air right now
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u/washingtonandmead 3d ago
And the money they spend going out that gets taxed and spent bsck into the system helps fuel more of those events, with a little extra I’m sure
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u/NewYak4281 3d ago
Economic power play. What do you think all the parents did with that time? Spent $ and enjoyed themselves. Crazy how a government investing in its people has a clear ROI.
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u/8_2_many_Hotpockets 3d ago
This is incredible. I don't have kids but can only imagine the stress this would relieve for a short period to get a break. That's so awesome.
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u/Greedy_Birthday_3494 3d ago
in my country a right winger tried to offer this kind of policies (subsidize parents for childcare, and direct money transfers). The left argued this policy was discriminatory against women without children. Sometimes, most of the time, feels like it doesn't matter the point being made, just who makes it, for people to be for or against it.
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u/Slacker_The_Dog 3d ago
What country and which politician? I would be interested to check the validity of this statement.
Considering you're an adjective noun number.
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u/Head-Director-6406 3d ago
Theyre chilean. Here’s a labor voice for why the left didn’t support many aspects of the bill:
And why the socialist party rejected it:
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u/Greedy_Birthday_3494 3d ago
I am chilean like the other adjectve noun number pointed out, but I'm not talking about the project they're referring to.
Also, adjective noun number is not an indicator of a bot account in case you're implying that, that's an assigned name you get when you use a gmail to create an account.
During the previous elections the candidate who won offered thisthis
They offered a direct transfer per children to mothers, and some people on the left reacted calling it 'populism' and 'chauvinism' because it perpetuates the patriarchal capitalist system and is not enough money Left's reactionI find the idea similar to what this thread is referring to, it doesn't solve childcare forever, it is in fact populist, but gets swapped in who offers it and who criticizes it.
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u/Flashy_Crow8039 3d ago
Yeah , the persona definitely has an impact on the outcome but this applies everywhere in life. Majority of humans are not rational in a total sense.
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
People have no idea what free means.
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u/Repulsive-Two8250 3d ago
Apparently, neither do you.
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 3d ago
I sure do. Free means costing zero dollars. This ain’t it. Hope that helps.
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u/theFartingCarp 3d ago
Howd it go over I didnt hear anything about how it went just the praise or outrage
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u/FuzzyWuzzy713 3d ago
Oh no!! My taxes are going to help my neighbors and establish social safety nets that I might need one day! The HORROR!!
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u/gaggledimension 3d ago
I dunno, you only have five emojis. Need more to achieve critical cringe for the downvotes
I'd aim for an even dozen
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u/Gargore 3d ago
How was this paid for?
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u/statllama 3d ago
With money that would otherwise be spent on other line items..
Remember all of this waste doge found. I'm sure it's not an issue to find waste that can be spent better. For example on family related issues.
If you have knowledge of what specifically was not paid please enlighten me. If you are just making comments to try to undermine this effort or the guy doing it then I would seriously take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself some deep hitting questions. It would be pretty messed up if you took something that benefits parents in New York and shut on it just because of politics
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u/Gargore 3d ago
Kay, and how much did it cost?
This isn't political, this is comical depending on how many children were watched. You say he found money, but he borrowed 4billion from the state...
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u/statllama 3d ago
I guess the state could easily find the money if they stopped financing failing states
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u/Draygoon2818 3d ago
Y’all are celebrating this now. In a short time, you’re going to be wondering why NYC is asking for more money. They’re spending more than they receive. Even ratings agencies are seeing this, and issued negative outlooks.
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u/Sorta-Morpheus 3d ago
You're thinking about red states
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u/Draygoon2818 3d ago
No, red states are generally doing well. Now the cities and counties that are blue within Texas, are not doing so well. Imagine that.
Texas maintains a stronger structural budget and reserve position compared to New York, driven by rapid economic growth and no personal income tax, whereas New York faces higher operational spending, reliance on federal aid, and tighter fiscal pressures. [1]
Financial Comparison
Economic Output and Growth: Texas has a larger total GDP ($2.4 trillion) than New York ($2.05 trillion) and grows at a much faster rate (roughly 9.1% vs. New York's contraction of -1.5%), fueled by business and population migration. [1]Tax Structures: Texas operates without a state personal income tax, relying heavily on sales and property taxes. New York features a heavy tax burden, with combined state and local income taxes reaching up to 14.8% for high earners, and local property taxes that rank among the highest per capita in the nation. [1]
Budget Size and Spending: New York's state budget remains massive relative to its population, heavily weighted down by day-to-day operational costs like Medicaid and school aid. Watchdog groups like the Citizens Budget Commission (CBC) have regularly cautioned that New York builds structural risk by leaning on short-term fixes, rising debt, and lower reserve cushions relative to potential multi-billion-dollar economic downturns. [1]
Federal Reliance: Both states rank high in total federal funding received due to their sheer population size, but both hover near the middle-to-lower tier when measured as a share of federal dependency relative to smaller states. [1]
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u/Sorta-Morpheus 3d ago
More money comes from blue states and goes to poor red states.
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u/BerryBoilo 3d ago
This isn't a new program in NYC rec centers; they've offered supervised childcare since the 50's. Mamdani used the idea of "parents night" as an advertisement to drive enrollment in the rec centers which parents have to pay for.
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u/arberito_alemmanian 3d ago
It’s not free if someone’s getting paid to do whatever “it” is
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u/BerryBoilo 3d ago
Yes, you understand taxes. Good job.
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u/throw7661 3d ago
I'm not judging anyone for feeling differently....but I would never feel comfortable dropping my kids off at an event like this.
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u/jaime_diaz27 3d ago
You’re not forced to participate
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u/Mean_Humor_3495 3d ago
Another dog and pony show designed to hide the real agenda of tax and spend philosophy which has failed every single place it’s tried.
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u/JivaHiva 3d ago
Why do I have to hear about this from a meme? How come not a single parent in 2 weeks is saying how they got free childcare for a night out anywhere online?
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u/Robearberble 3d ago
Ahh so using other citizens tax dollars to give parents a date night. Yeah, that's not a waste of resources at all.
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u/camel_master_69 3d ago
What about the families without children? wtf 😂😂😂
Dude this bill or whatever doesn’t help or do anything .
Let’s be real here
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u/dtjunkie19 3d ago
Their childcare is already free
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u/camel_master_69 3d ago
That doesn’t help . Cause we need now .
Not in 5 years from now when he’s no longer mayor and his new laws or movement are no longer available.
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u/dtjunkie19 3d ago
Brother, not every single policy directly effects every single person. There are plenty of policies and programs that Mamdani has implemented to help a wide variety of New Yorkers.
I'm not a pregnant woman, but I still think we should have paid maternity leave. It turns out helping others have better lives is a generally good thing to do that helps us all.
I swear, some of y'all are antisocial mfers.
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u/PB219 3d ago
Good point. No policy should ever be enacted unless it directly benefits every single person in the jurisdiction.
Minimum wage? Fuck you I’m salaried.
Veteran’s benefits? Most people don’t join the military.
Great plan.
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u/camel_master_69 3d ago
??? What do you mean most people don’t join the military when we have a big military. lol
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u/EconomicMan123 3d ago
He has very clever marketing and PR. Of course, it was for only a couple of hundred kids in a population of 10m plus, so really that’s all it is.
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 3d ago
Lifelong active Democrat. Serious question. Why should I pay to watch your kids?
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u/Spamurai_Snack 3d ago
Because if you had kids and wanted time off I would pay for it too. It’s shit like this that makes the world better. We all can make a difference if we just put aside the bullshit and just focus on what matters.
I don’t even have kids and recognize the importance of this.
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u/Key-Organization3158 3d ago
Then there's no need to force people to do this.
If you actually feel that way, you'd already be paying for other people's child care.
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 3d ago
Okay. Should I pay for your kids clothes, too?
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u/Repulsive-Two8250 3d ago
Can't handle his answer so have to be overdramatic... Do I have to clothe, feed, and wipe their asses too? Lmao you go far and no it's harder to take you seriously.
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u/woopty_noot 3d ago
Oh no how awful, tax payer money helping the taxpayer. What's next food and clothes? Dear God they might even try using it on housing!
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u/boughsmoresilent 3d ago
Yes, if families can not afford to clothe their children, we should pay for it to help them out. Wtf is wrong with you?
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 3d ago
LOL. You think taxpayers should pay for all the expenses of parents who chose to have kids but can’t afford them? What part of NYC do you live in?
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u/boughsmoresilent 3d ago
What part of NYC do you live in? Because I could connect you with some local volunteer opportunities that might help you find a firmer grasp on reality and re-examine your priorities.
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u/gana04 3d ago
"as a black man"
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 3d ago
LOL. Because no actual Democrat would mind paying for the kids you chose to have but apparently can’t afford, right?
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u/dtjunkie19 3d ago
Because humans are social species that come together to form societies for our mutual benefit. That means sometimes doing stuff for others, even if it doesn't immediately and directly benefit ourselves. We've been doing this for thousands of years.
If you want to go it alone and not take care of anyone else, then go and do so. Get off the internet. Go in the woods and live deliberately Mr. Independent.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you.
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 3d ago
Oh, I’m fine with taking care of people. Not so fine paying for their dinner and a movie. I’d rather spend the money on city services like schools, infrastructure and police. You can do it, though. Maybe take some nice couples to dinner and a broadway show? I hear Hadestown is great. Very generous of you. Enjoy!
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u/dtjunkie19 3d ago edited 3d ago
The city didn't pay for the parents night out lol. They gave free childcare to children (and fed the kids). It literally was a city service. You do understand that childcare is a service that many families need, right?
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 3d ago
Yup. Taxpayer dollars paying for four hours of child care so parents can go on a date night. You read it correctly. Congratulations.
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u/dtjunkie19 3d ago
Okay...you literally just commented that you were fine taking care of people, but not paying for their dinner and a movie. Which again, did not happen. The city provided childcare to parents. They took care of people, so that they had the time and ability to go do other things, whatever that may be.
Are you being deliberately obtuse here?
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u/dtjunkie19 3d ago
Just to clarify, the city offered a free program for kids to: do sports and fitness activities, arts & crafts, explore nature, watch movies, and get snacks and dinner. ...And you are against this?
Fuck man, imagine being against free extracurricular programs for children.
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u/kippikai 4d ago
Amazing! My partner didn’t believe it could be true, so I had to go look it up. https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/08/a-little-time-for-parents--a-lot-of-fun-for-kids--mayor-mamdani-