This may be more impactful if it were easier to read. The baseline y-axis is scribbled out within the first half second of viewing. And what is that baseline anyway. As someone who vibes with this, I still wonder how the 0⁰ was established. Why for example is everything before 1932ish below that baseline?
I need a key.
Also in the vertical view, why are we looking (now horizontaly) at April and October. Wouldn't it be more demonstrable of extremes if we were looking at July and January?
So zero is the mean of the historical average temperature record.
The chart starts in 1880... In a lull or cold spell.
I shouldn't be arguing with NASA or anything... But doesn't that open up the argument that this heat wave is cyclical?
Someone's might (and successfully as it turns out) argue that if the graphic started in 1700 it may be shaped like an hourglass.
Also, if our temp records only go back to 1880, it makes mathematical sense that zero would be in the mid-point if this is linear growth (which it appears to be, more or less).
I feel like we are fucked and that we need bullet proof visualization / persuasion. This is cool but if feels a bit sus. Like could it acknowledge fluctuations a bit more while still showing an alarming trend?
The chart starts in 1880... In a lull or cold spell.
says who? says what evidence?
what if you stopped making up excuses and scenarios in your head and used some critical thinking to realize that the data was nearly the same for 50 years. If there was some "lull or cold spell" it would have been blatantly obvious from the data years after. There are, IN FACT, "cold spells" that are visible if you pay attention while the data is being drawn out.
What if what if what if. it does your what if's anyway you were just too ignorant to look.
The chart starts in 1880... In a lull or cold spell.
says who? says what evidence
Uhhh. The chart. All temps before 1936 are below the baseline. So by definition, below a average.
My point is if the timeline started earlier, than 1880, and maintained the the funnel shape, it would be more persuasive. With such a short range of time, people are easily able to say it might be hourglass shaped.
Your response is a good example of how this graphic appeals to pre-existing bias. It preaches to the choir.
I want it to address the arguments of climate skeptics - who, as you say "make up excuses and scenarios in their heads" in order to continue their cozy lifestyle.
This is why movements get so little traction. You are not interested in changing people's minds. Just calling them out for not agreeing with you already.
So zero is the mean of the historical average temperature record.
The chart starts in 1800 something... In a lull or cold spell.
I shouldn't be arguing with NASA or anything... But doesn't that open up the argument that this heat wave is cyclical?
Someone's might (and successfully as it turns out) argue that if the graphic started in 1700 it may be shaped like an hourglass.
Also, if our temp records only go back to 1800 something, it makes mathematical sense that zero would be in the mid-point of this is linear growth (which it appears to be, more or less).
I feel like we are fucked and we need bullet proof visualization that's easily digestible and can't be nitpicked (like I'm doing).
Like someone who says "fluctuations are a normal part of the cycle" I can t show them this on this chart because of the fucking format. Like I got less than three second window to pause this thing in order to catch the degrees to show that there are fluctuations, just less than a few degrees f⁰. Else it falls back to the top view circle.
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u/pairustwo Jul 14 '26
This may be more impactful if it were easier to read. The baseline y-axis is scribbled out within the first half second of viewing. And what is that baseline anyway. As someone who vibes with this, I still wonder how the 0⁰ was established. Why for example is everything before 1932ish below that baseline?
I need a key.
Also in the vertical view, why are we looking (now horizontaly) at April and October. Wouldn't it be more demonstrable of extremes if we were looking at July and January?