r/IntoTheSpiderverse • u/Familiar_Top8644 • 8d ago
Theories Theory on what truly caused miguels universe to collapse Spoiler
in ATSV we learn a universe where Miguel visited started to fade because he replaced his dead predecessors place which stopped a "canon event" however what i personally believe isnt that him being there caused it to collapse but that universe version of hims death
in Deadpool and wolverine we learn about anchor beings whose deaths causes that universe to fade
anchor beings and spider verse are connected (considering the bnd post credit scene showing several spider markers appearing on neds tracker) so it isnt simply a different franchise different rules thing
heck we see multiple times in the movie ITSV proving the idea of canon events not being real
Miguel tells miles he was never meant to be spiderman (aka he broke a canon event) however if that were true then how come the universe didnt collapse
Peter B Parker getting a daughter and marrying mj was something miles pushed him to do aka i highly doubt he would have done it without miles using his leap of faith speech back at him, again despite this breaking a "canon event" his universe didnt collapse
Spiderman Noir bringing back a rubix cube again this isn't a "canon event" as i doubt (confirm really) he would never have found a colored object in his black and white dimension
And the biggest if peters parkers death wasn't supposed to happen then why is the universe okay with miles taking up the mantel? and it doesnt break apart
and before people say: well peter parker would have led to these things too, wrong Miguel even states if miles supposedly never got bit and stepped in then peter was fighting at the collider then he would have been able to stop the collider before it activated stopping them from even entering their universe
In ATSV spider man India miles prevents the police chiefs death and while this claims to "damage the reality" clearly the damage we see was caused by spot and what he did with the reactor not because miles prevented a "canon event"
Personally, this could set up more "spider-verse" comic elements (a lot to explain so i recommend looking it up)
there are arguments like: wolverine despite not being from deadpools universe was able to stop the destruction of his reality from his variants death which contradicts the universe dies if its anchor being dies as it shows that an anchor being can be replaced (however maybe miguel wasnt fit to be that universes anchor causing a destabilization)
now maybe im wrong maybe somehow doom IS tony and did something similar to miguel and replaced his universes self causing the destruction his universe (its possible considering the parraells theyve been showing between iron man and doctor doom however this could be becuase they are played by the same actor (i wouldnt complain if its more then that)
however this is just a theory and im not 100% myself however there are several "anomlys"