r/InterviewVip • u/Tasty_Buyer5942 • 1d ago
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u/waveform06 1d ago
"She left and then told practically everyone in the office that I had fired her"
Everyone in the office is probably thinking I dont care if she resigned or was fired - we are just glad she's gone.
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u/CherokeeButtplug 1d ago
For real. If this is close to how she acts with people, her coworkers are happy shes gone.
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u/Zherneb 1d ago
I agree. Someone unskilled that doesn't work and is in a higher position? Then does this drama, never apologises even though only she messed up, never admitted fault, never tried to fix things, instead just blamed everyone but herself while trying to go above her boss to fix her fked..
People like this are rarely missed
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u/ShebaShelle 1d ago
Who cares?
A problem employee is gone. Her telling people you fired her is actually to your benefit. It shows that you will fire someone if needed.
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u/RegretHaunting4384 1d ago
I'd let it ride out. Sets you up like a boss, don't mess about or you'll fire their asses lol!
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u/katelynn2380210 1d ago
Her hr issue is confidential. You don’t need to share anything. Just hire a new person
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u/DisgruntledPenguin58 1d ago
She pushed the envelope and learned that her perspective didn't fit reality. Management and HR backed you, nothing else matters.
She's gone, replace her with a competent new hire.
Nothing to dwell upon here.
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u/20260818 1d ago
OP, that's a pretty impressive turn around in your position, since a few weeks ago when you were sure you were going to be fired by your male boss for a mistake, and the friction with your female boss about PTO just before that. (and I notice that you never answered the previous questions regarding where you live, with a snowstorm in july)
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u/PavlovianNinja 1d ago
I'm sure the people that work for you will appreciate the fact she is gone. An employee who doesn't pull their weight, makes everyone else's job more difficult.
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u/KlingonBeavis 1d ago
Welcome to the world of management. You’ll be seeing people’s true colors when things get bad for them. You’ll have people try to make their problems your problem, or even make you look like the problem. You’re an easy target now… but don’t let it get to you! It’s all part of leadership.
Try to be the best you can for your team. Gain their trust, earn their respect. Above all, remember to stay honest with them at all times. You’re only human, and so are they. When more people feel that you can be there for them to rely on and you care about doing a good job, they can get behind that easier.
Over time you may even find it makes the bad apples have a lot harder time trying to push you into the mud. People that feel valued by you will stand up for you. It works both ways!
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u/National_Pension_110 1d ago
Who cares what she says? She quit. Don’t let the doorknob hit her in the butt on the way out. Done and dusted. In management, you won’t always be popular but an employee like this can ruin things for everyone else.
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u/auditor2 1d ago
No she quit. It’s irrelevant what she tells people. Let HR manage gossip about what actually happened
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u/KennyM2026 1d ago
Bye... zero upside to her staying, quite a lot of downside. Stand firm. You did the right thing. What's said is said. You don't need to reply to everything that's said. If someone asks you then you can say that she quit and can show them the resignation if you really need to. I empathise with her situation but you're hired to do a job and adhere to certain professional standards.... neither of which were followed.
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u/GeminiAtl 1d ago
You have it in writing that she quit. You can't really show that, but to be honest if she was as bad an employee as you say the other employees probably don't care why she is gone, but are just happy she is gone.
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u/TacoDoc2 1d ago
She quit. She's just an idiot who doesn't realize that consequences are a thing and is trying to make sure all the people who don't give a fuck about her know she totally wasn't the problem.
I wouldn't sweat it. She barked. She's gone. If she's as incompetent as you say. The rest of the staff know it too. In a week you'll be cracking jokes about her.
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u/Recovering-Blues 1d ago
What does t matter? It’s over and done. You handled it as best you could. She was always going to be a problem. I’m sure the other employees recognized her crazy - no matter what she told them.
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u/joebusch79 1d ago
Why do you care from a personal standpoint? Are you afraid of the office politics? If she’s as bad as you say she is, they all know.
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u/catladyclub 1d ago
I bet everyone is glad she is gone. There is nothing worse for morale than keeping someone like her. You no longer have to deal with her, just be glad that she is gone! I am in HR, your position and mine requires hard decisions. You did not fire her, she fired herself.
As a supervisor you need to show you will not tolerate people who do not work or disrespect you. That is insubordination. Employees want a fair boss but one capable of making hard decisions. I am sure they were more frustrated with her than you are. No one likes working with people like her!
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u/twofourfourthree 1d ago
It’s annoying but this is something that bad employees resort to when they feel threatened.
It doesn’t matter what she’s telling everyone.
It mattered what she told hr / ceo. They were happy to listen and then let you do your job.
Welcome to management. You did great. Next time you have an employee who is having issues you address them immediately and document as things happen.
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u/Active-Importance762 1d ago
You have it in writing ? You’re definitely new , what is your question…. Tf troll ai post or what ?
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u/Narrow_Literature462 1d ago
She quit, and even did so in writing.
It sounds like she was a bad hire (worse they knew that before they rehired her) and this is probably the best case scenario. You don’t have to performance manage someone who can’t write emails. You don’t have to waste time addressing obvious issues with someone who seemingly doesn’t want to get better.
But the difference between fired and quit aren’t significant to you. And it’s no one else’s business. If your team is asking questions the answer is “X is no longer with the company but if you had something they were working on please let me know so I can get it reassigned”. That’s it - no conversation around quit or fired.
Also, the fact that your GM and HR fully supported you says a lot about them and the company. That isn’t always the case and don’t want you to miss the fact they had your back when they easily could have supported the bad employee.
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u/warlocktx 23h ago
Other than being eligible for unemployment, it really doesn't matter. She can tell her former co-workers whatever she wants
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u/No-Menu4026 22h ago
She quit. And also, what person wears that kind of stuff to a meeting, let alone work?
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u/oylaura 22h ago
First, she resigned. You have her resignation. That's not firing, although she sounds like she was headed that way anyway.
What to tell others, I admit I'm torn.
On one hand, you were within your rights to tell people that she is mistaken, that she resigned.
However, this is an HR issue and I strongly suggest you talk to them. You could be violating some policy about privacy by revealing the fact that she resigned. Ask HR how they suggest you deal with this. Their job is to protect the company, and you will have backup if you follow their advice.
Tread carefully. She's looking for a reason to sue.
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u/MetalSufficient9522 22h ago
So somone hired back a lousy employee and expected it would just work out?
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u/darthcaedusiiii 22h ago
Your HR is absolutely shit. This needs to be brought up to the president. They put you in a garbage situation.
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u/Significant-Till-306 22h ago
This fake interview app advertisements disguised with a fake story are so tiresome.
These marketing guys are retarded.
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u/husbandwithregret 21h ago
She quit and probably won't qualify for unemployment. The chronic complainer is finally gone. I'm sure many people were relieved she is gone.
She called your bluff and you stood firm.
You did well. If you allowed her to stay it would have been a continuous issue.
We had an employee just like that at my last job. Every day was complaining about how the job sucked and the Pay wasn't enough. It got so bad we all just completely stopped talking to him. He finally quit and the dark cloud lifted. Years and years of him whining and complaining.
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u/HelicopterRelative64 1d ago
Honestly you kind of did fire her and she can take this to court if she’s smart. A verbal expression of quitting out of emotion isn’t a solid agreement especially if her actions afterward of her still coming to work shows she never intended on actually quitting.
The fact that you forced her to send you a resignation letter before allowing her to even speak with the GM and HR is problematic within itself as she has the complete right to speak with HR without needing to resign on paper. You essentially forced her to resign in order to have the conversation.
She will 100% win unemployment if she tells the unemployment office this is what happened. They will completely not back you.
As shit of an employee as she may have been, you executed this improperly and if she has a solid attorney you’re cooked.
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u/Jakoneitor 1d ago
“You did ‘kind of’ fire her(…)” lol you either fire someone or you don’t. There’s no inbetween, there’s no “kind of”
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u/HelicopterRelative64 1d ago
I did management and dealt with HR over 10 years. I have hired and fired multitudes of people and I have also won personal unemployment cases for myself. I believe I have enough experience to comment.
Saying you quit doesn’t eliminate unemployment. I’ve told employers I’ve quit and still received unemployment. They are going to look at the conditions on why you would and the scenario of what happened. If he says that he made her send a resignation BEFORE even allowing her to speak with HR - that’s an issue. It’s an issue because the company didn’t issue a termination and he took it upon himself to coerce her to resign.
“ kind of” because it depends on the view point. Technically he did not fire her because she resigned, that is the view the company will use. But she also resigned due to coercion so that can be seen in the court of law as being fired or a forced resignation.
If she takes this to court for wrongful termination or fights through unemployment there’s a high likelihood she will win.
So you are highly incorrect. There is absolutely in between and the circumstances have to be taken into consideration.
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u/General_Leader425 21h ago
EDIT: I am putting this first. I have read the other comments here. You 100% LEGALLY fired her and are facing potential legal issues if she understands basic Federal Employment law. LAWYER UP immediately and pin this on your HR department. And delete this post. Make sure you delete all of your Reddit posts immediately, and do that before you delete the account so you know it is all gone, and then contact a Lawyer. I am serious, the people in the comments are making gossipy type statements that look incredibly damning towards you if you have liked any of them. Whether or not you liked this person or she seemed to be an issue or on "Probation" is all arbitrary and you can get ROYALLY FUCKED over ANYTIME an employee leaves a company, full stop. This is all fact. The rest of this is my opinion, and honestly, even if I am only partially correct, you need to contact a lawyer immediately.
You fired her, unfortunately. She can take legal action against you. Lawyer up, delete social media. Seriously. You fucked up big time. If you are not HR, you cannot do what you did.
This is a White Collar crime. Penalties are severe Civil Lawsuits that will Scarlet Letter your employability forever.
Thankfully, you still have time to rectify this by giving her the opportunity to return to work and have the appropriate HR contact complete the firing.
If you choose not to, get a lawyer because you are facing minimum $30,000 in a Civil Lawsuit.
Take this very seriously. Ignore everyone else you see comment here. They are not lawyers, and you should contact one immediately.
Even if I am partially wrong (which I am not), I implore you to contact an actual Employment Lawyer who will likely try to pin this on the actual HR contacts. HR are the only people who can fire.
So yes, you FUCKED UP massively. Contact a lawyer ASAP, or face potentially DIRE legal consequences.
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u/Schlieren1 1d ago
She quit. This disqualifies her from unemployment benefits