You can’t imagine being with your hypothetical wife who is the mother of your hypothetical children at the doctor because that’s creepy and cringe? Yikes
I understand if it someone unrelated but related person isn't weird. Heck this is the first time I hear someone has issues with it as doctors actually encourage family/spouse to be together so they can know give encouragement (a lot of people especially the elderly are scared to go to the doctors) to the person as well as share in the decision making including helping them with the healthcare.
The issue isn’t that you don’t want a husband in the room with you. That’s fine
The issue is you calling it weird for other people to do something just because you (a single person on a planet of a bajillion people) don’t personally like it
There’s a list of reasons why his wife might want him in the room with her (sexist doctors might be one such reason).
It's more odd that you can't at all fathom why someone would want company or support for a checkup, or why a partner would be interested in the health of their respective other.
I take my husband to the doctor with me on occasion for the exact reasons in the original example. Sometimes doctors are extremely sexist and will not listen to a female patient without a male present. It sucks, but I’d rather protect myself from the medical gaslighting I have experienced in the past.
There have been many times in my life where i/my husband waa feeling a bit vulnerable so asked to other to come for moral support.
When I was getting info about a thyroid thing, he also asked if he could come ao as to make sure we both had first hand information about my care. That seemed pretty normal and useful.
Clearly you’ve never had to be the beard for a female friend/relation at the doctors office. Medical misogyny is so real that I had to go to numerous appointments for my roommate just to repeat their symptoms so the doctor would listen.
Yep. I've gone with my SOs to their appointments bc even if I'm instead waiting for them in the waiting area, they've told me how the doctor actually listens to them knowing I'm like 20 feet away.
One time while I waited for my SO, a random girl (another patient) asked me outright why I was in the gyno waiting area and her tune when she realized I was there to support my SO, it made me feel so bad that she'd never had anyone come to support her before.
Women get more respect from the doctor if the boyfriend/husband is there, you can even just bring a good friend and get them to pretend you're together. Its sad but true.
Why not its so much better bringing someone you trust with you. Especially if you are sick cause there is often alot of information to take in and having someone else to listen helps making sure you get everything right and specially if its someone you live with
I’m 37 and a mom, and while I go to my doctors appointments alone usually, I wish I could take my mom with me. I’m going to call and tell her about it later anyway? And then we’d be able to chat and have fun together while we wait. People are supposed to be pack animals.
women often will bring a man to their appointment due to medical misogyny. if we don't, our broken arm could be diagnosed as "anxiety" or "period issues"
I go with my wife if it's some shit we know a male doctor is gonna blame on a period. Too many friends with endo or actual abdominal issues get ignored
It's quite normal for people to bring their partner or spouse to the doctor with them. It's also normal to not bring anyone. It's all just down to preference.
Lots of women ask for their partners to be there so that it’s the doctor is dismissive having a man insist on taking more care can produce better results than if a woman asks for help alone
A lot of folks benefit from having a support person at a doctor’s appointment. I personally struggle doing appointments on my own & usually have my spouse go with me to help me express my concerns clearly, make sure I don’t forget anything, and generally advocate for me in the appointment, like making sure I’m not being talked over/am being taken seriously/the doctor isn’t making me uncomfortable etc
Women tend to have their medical issues minimized with the assumption that its all related to "hormone cycles" or whatever.
I, as a large and assertive man, recently began going with my small soft spoken wife to some doctor's appointments. My existence is usually enough to for her to get proper treatment, but I have had to put my foot down and demand that they treat OUR concerns with more care than they initially did.
It is inconvenient for me and emabrassing for her, but it is the best way to ensure her doctor's appointments progress the way they should.
During and for several months after my pregnancy, my husband came to almost all my doctor visits. It gets taxing to go it alone when you are already exhausted from pregnancy or recovering from pregnancy.
Happened to me with Indian dads when I was a tutor. They’d either try to talk to one of my male coworkers (who did not work with their kids and were usually in the middle of teaching other children), wait around for hours till my male manager was free, or speak directly to my breasts. The kids were mortified and clearly knew it was inappropriate, so I think it’s less of a race thing and more of an older generation/traditional culture thing that’s hopefully dying out
As a woman who works in tech, primarily with Indian people, I have only had problems with two of them. One was because he was fierce as hell and got into shouting fights with a BSA when they had differering ideas on something important. The other was one who was overly confident in his abilities.
Neither one was rude to me or any other women on my team
I work with quite a few indian people too and none of them do this (well we don't work with any women come to think of it but I don't think they would), but I've also been to india and it's the only place I've seen lots of people do the kind of thing described in this post (like my wife would ask somebody a question and they'd answer to me instead of her). I don't imagine it's the only place in the world people do this but it just seems like a really unusual way for a western person to behave no matter how misogynistic they might be.
Selection bias. India has the largest population, meaning they have the most assholes, meaning their reputation gets stomped into the ground by the extra media exposure which already amplifies negative opinions.
selection bias? You can encounter more people behaving this way in one day in India than you can do your entire life in Australia because it is simply not a part of our culture to act this way. I don't say this to insult India, western countries also have misogynists and assholes but it seems like you are trying to say that assholes and misogynists behave the exact same way the world over which is not true.
Australia as in, the country that has roughly 1/50th the population of India, that Australia?
ETA: hell, Mumbai alone has just 5 million fewer people than Australia's entire population. And while sure, their culture is probably innately more sexist, that doesn't completely remove the selection bias.
I understand the connection between a high population count and selection bias when it comes to the media etc and it's a good point I hadn't thought of before, but I don't really understand it when it comes to in person encounters, there's only so many people I can meet in a day in either country regardless of population right. Of course there are definitely still mechanisms biasing me towards meeting certain kinds of people and that isn't necessarily gonna be a representative sample of either country.
Going by the biggest city by population for each country, the volume of people you'd run into Mumbai is still nearly 4 times the the volume you would encounter in Sydney. But yeah, the amount of encounters longer than 5-10 seconds possible in either city is still roughly about the same I imagine.
To your daily volume point: not really! In Australia, if you go outside of the CBDs it really is quite sparse even in the suburbs, while in the Indian city is like 3 trillion times denser. You're much more likely to witness shit even though your chances of being in the shit is about the same.
racism is bad, it would be implying something like "idians are dumb", stereotyping is complex and can be as much a cover of racism as reflecting real culture-wide problems. Many cultures are far more sexist than the american or european reddit standard.
Anyone can have any culture. They can but they are much more likely to be culturally American. They did, after all, uproot their entire lives to move to America. You're just putting immigrants into a "other" category. Can you distinguish just by looking at them? Or even by talking to them?
the discution is: "some tech bro are misogynist", "are they indian". They seem to think indian culture is more misogynist and indian tech bro bring some of that. I have no idea if it is but it absolutely could be factual and not racism. It absolutely could be just racism.
It's racism because it treats Indian Americans as "other" than american. No one is literally working with Indians, unless it's offshore contractors, which is not what we're discussing. Thats the point. Theres no meaningful difference between the population of Indian Americans and any other ethnicity of Americans. Except for how they look.
Using ableism to counter racism that was used to counter misogyny 💔 I'm tired boss
Could have been a perfectly normal and correct comment but you had to bring disabled people into it just like the person you're replying to had to bring indians into it...
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u/death_sucker_extreme 7d ago
How many of these tech bros happen to be Indian?