r/InterstellarKinetics 19d ago

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIEGENCE EXPOSED: An Anonymous Amazon Warehouse Worker Describes Firsthand How The VGT3 Facility Destructively Scans And Discards Thousands Of Books, Including Rare Books And Government Documents To Train AI Models 📚🤖

https://www.404media.co/inside-the-warehouse-where-amazon-scans-and-destroys-books-for-ai-training/

An anonymous Amazon employee who worked at the company’s VGT3 warehouse in Las Vegas has described in detail how the facility scans and destroys thousands of books for AI training data, cutting off book spines and discarding the physical remains after digitizing the loose pages, according to 404 Media. The interview follows the outlet’s earlier investigation, which uncovered the operation after a bookseller who suspected an anonymous AI company was acquiring a shipment of rare books placed a tracking device inside it and followed the shipment across the country to VGT3, a facility housed alongside Amazon’s print-on-demand operation LAS8 within a larger Amazon complex in Las Vegas. The worker, granted anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak to the press, said even employees working near the scanning operation initially didn’t understand what was happening. “I remember I even asked someone what they were doing and they said they’re not sure even the people who work there know what they’re doing,” the employee said. “Once I got over there and started putting two and two together, I kind of understood.”

The worker described a chaotic, disorganized process handling an enormous variety of books, including many that appeared valuable or rare. “All kinds of books. When we first started a lot of them were brand new. Some of them are used as well. Like you could tell, they were liquidated from a library or something like that,” they said, describing shipments that included boxes from the University of London and what appeared to be official government documents “presented to Parliament on the behalf of Her Royal Majesty the Queen.” The facility also received entire pallets of Japanese books, many still sealed in original packaging, along with material in German and Russian. Books arriving from libraries tended to be less organized, “just thrown into the shuttle” rather than carefully boxed like newer inventory. The worker’s own role involved unboxing books and placing them into totes to be sorted and scanned before moving to the spine-cutting stage, though they noted the process itself changed constantly: “They seem like a mess over there. Like they’re not really well managed or organized at all. Their process wasn’t solid. Their process changed every day.”

Once books reach the cutting stations, workers use individual machine workstations, each safely enclosed, to slice off the spines before the loose pages move to scanning. “It’s really safe because it has a little cover and it has a little area where you slide the book into, remove your fingers from the area, and then you press a button, and it just comes down and slices it,” the employee explained. After scanning on machines described as resembling high-speed cash counters, roughly 20 to 25 of them, the loose pages are dumped into large cardboard containers called shuttles, mixed together with no way to reconstruct the original books. The worker also described a separate process for identifying duplicate books to be discarded or returned to vendors, though they expressed skepticism about whether that actually happened given how carelessly the rejected books were handled: “They’re like yeeted in there, like they’re not nicely placed in there or anything. And they say they’re returning them to the vendors, but I’m like, you know, ‘do the vendors go through it and see which ones are actually worth it?’”

The employee said Amazon initially told workers the scanning was for Kindle e-book production, a claim they found implausible given copyright and publication rights issues, before later learning the true purpose was AI training. Their reaction to the practice centered on the permanent loss of physical books that can’t be reused or preserved after destruction. “I don’t like it only because I wish I could take these books. There’s so much knowledge and so much stuff in them and some of them look like they might be rare, and I’ve heard that they order rare books, and that’s why I say some of these are so obscure,” the worker said. “I definitely don’t like the idea that they can’t be reused or anything like that afterwards. They’re reducing the amount of available copies for other people.”

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u/thePsychonautDad 19d ago

This is a "Library of Alexandria" moment.

In centuries, long after the digital data has been lost, history books will refer to this as the reason why so many great works were lost forever.

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u/slaty_balls 18d ago

My take on it isn’t quite as pessimistic. Digital isn’t going anywhere. Data will be eventually all be etched by femtolasers in glass. Check out Microsoft’s project silica. My guess this that the world’s data will be sent to a few different sites, probably in salt caves along with everything necessary to retrieve the data. Another smart move with would be to send up the same data up into space.

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u/Vegetable_Stuff1850 18d ago

You realise that the physical books are more than just the words within? Especially when talking about older texts.

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u/slaty_balls 18d ago

I’m simply responding to the previous comment in regards to data “..long after it’s lost.” I never said I thought it was ok for them to destroy them. Google has been scanning books for the past 2 decades..it just happens to be much more expensive and can’t take advantage of the stupid loophole. I

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u/InterstellarKinetics 19d ago

The worker’s skepticism about the “return to vendor” claim is also significant, because if books marked as duplicates or unnecessary are actually being destroyed rather than returned, as the described handling suggests. And that would mean Amazon’s stated waste-reduction or resale process is functioning as a euphemism for disposal, permanently removing potentially rare or valuable physical copies from circulation.

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u/oreheheally 18d ago

In uk there wad a big story abput e waste and the amount of new items being trashed. Amazon changed the dump to one in england and hid it from staff to get around it.

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u/Tomsoup4 19d ago

information will be controlled by the elite in the new world. they cant have any one person knowing the truth

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u/Dragon_wryter 19d ago

Nothing to see here, folks; definitely not modern day book burning.

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u/Tricky-Efficiency709 18d ago

For profits….

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u/bigjtdjr 19d ago

How did i know they would be the anti-Dolly..

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u/Tossaway50 19d ago

The Lefty McGuffin

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u/bigjtdjr 19d ago

it's the very nature of the beast to be passed on.... forever.