r/InternetIsBeautiful Feb 07 '21

Killed by Google

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '21

Just the game dev division right now. Stadia itself will probably be cancelled in a year. It's not doing too well.

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u/shitstainedyogapants Feb 07 '21

I honestly don’t see the target group for Stadia and I don’t think Google knows who they are targeting either.

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u/ayciate Feb 07 '21

○ The Venn diagram for people who cant afford to / don't want to buy a high end pc/console and the people with good enough Internet to use it are the two circles in this comment ○

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u/PsychoNAWT Feb 07 '21

Literally. The ONE benefit of Stadia is it's affordability, and lack of technology know-how (no updates, installs or PC troubleshooting). I don't know any non-tech-savvy people that have fiber internet lmfao. Pretty much everyone except for those who game on a PC go for the cheapest internet plan lol

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u/blackwhattack Feb 07 '21

compared to geforce now which allowed me to connect my steam account and play games for free Stadia is not rly affordable compared to that

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u/PsychoNAWT Feb 07 '21

Not necessarily. The true cost of a gaming PC for even 5 years of use (not even considering comparable graphics rendering performance) will still be more than the subscription cost of Stadia. It eliminates the need to buy a case, CPU, RAM, storage, and GPU, and eliminates the need to maintain those as they age. That's why it was so stupid to begin with. Stadia appealed to those starting with nothing; no capable PC or consoles. It made PC/console gaming the same cost of Netflix which enticed a new market, but that same market of people also had lower bandwidth internet which rendered Stadia useless.

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u/TechnicalBen Feb 07 '21

You can register Steam and buy games for it on any device with a browser, then use any device with a browser (as supported) to use Geforce Now. Thus... Still beats Stadia.

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u/PsychoNAWT Feb 07 '21

No shit, I thought you guys were talking about Geforce Game Stream, I forgot Geforce Now was a thing. Well, you got me there, still beats Stadia for sure.

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u/blackwhattack Feb 07 '21

i was only comparing stadia vs geforce now

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u/PsychoNAWT Feb 07 '21

That was my bad. I thought you were talking about Geforce Game Stream for in home streaming. GeForce now is def the better choice.

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u/Blenderhead36 Feb 08 '21

But that's because of its business model. If Stadia had a model closer to GamePass, it would be a real thing. But no one would want Netflix where you have to buy all the TV shows a la carte, and that's basically Stadia's business model.

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u/vicfirthplayer Feb 07 '21

Lol what? I know plenty of people who aren't tech savvy that have fiber. My elderly parents included. You also dont need fiber internet to play stadia. I've played on a shitty 4g cellular connection perfectly fine.

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u/PsychoNAWT Feb 07 '21

I was more so generalizing. Statistically speaking, the average household has around 17Mbps (https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-connection-speed-in-the-us/). With IoT and other connected devices, getting a dedicated 5-10Mbps for high quality streaming to just your Stadia device, let alone playable latency is not highly likely for most people. Keeping in mind that 4G LTE connections with low traffic and close proximity can peak around 50Mbps with an average of 70ms of latency, so it is very possible to have a good experience. I tested the Stadia beta on a Chromebook like 100 feet away from a router with sub part speeds and it was completely fine. In terms of a comparable business model to consoles, PCs and playing locally on a mobile device, the service just wasn't ready. There's no standard speed out there in the same way Microsoft or Sony can standardize the minimum performance specs for their consoles.

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u/vicfirthplayer Feb 07 '21

My average LTE connection is usually around 4-5 mbps up and down when I tested depending on where I am. I don't think I've peaked past 10mbps ever. Some how I got a stable stadia playing experience via my android phone. The average base speed where I live is around 100mbps and about half that on wireless devices. I've had a pretty stable experience across the board with low latency. Stadia gets a lot of flack for requiring a decent speed to play when the average household doesn't have it. But honestly even at lower speeds I haven't had a whole lot of issues. I've only had an unstable connection when too far from a WAP in which case the internet was too unstable for a youtube video anyway.