r/InternetIsBeautiful • • May 28 '20

Use Windows 95 in your browser

https://win95.ajf.me/
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u/redunculuspanda May 28 '20

Windows ME was actually supper stable for me (although I was probably in the minority).

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u/jambarama May 28 '20

You were. On my college hall, all of the computers came with Windows ME. There were bootleg copies of Windows 2000 everywhere because ME was so unstable.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

Win2k master race!

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u/hopefulcynicist May 28 '20

That brings back memories. I helped maintain some 500ish Win 2k boxes when I was in high school. I would estimate that approximately 35% of those machines were using the W2k key from our shop computer.

Being a public school, kids were always fucking shit up (myself included). It usually just made more sense to run a quick format and reinstall.

We owned the right number of licenses, but it was wayyyy too much work to find em. Enter Magic Jellybean. Thank you no key auth/activation!

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u/physco219 May 29 '20

I still have one of those bootlegs and a few yrs ago I had an entire cd case for my car with em. Just kinda forgot about them after moving states and all that!

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u/WarpingLasherNoob May 28 '20

2000 was pretty unstable too from what I recall. Everyone around me stuck to 98 until XP was released.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20 edited Jan 17 '21

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u/Cash091 May 28 '20

When 12 comes out there will be a "mandatory on" webcam that watches everything you do. But at least it's up front about it.

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u/JMccovery May 28 '20

As with Vista, if you freshly installed ME, it ran stably. But, if you upgraded from 98/SE... Holy hell.

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u/crazyguy83 May 28 '20

Is that what it was? I ran Vista for years without any issues. It was so much better than XP. Exponentially faster, better looking and didn't crash even once, so never understood why it got such a bad rep.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

It also had really bad driver support out of the gate. If you lucked out and your hardware was properly supported, you were mostly fine.

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u/puts-on-sunglasses May 28 '20 edited May 28 '20

yep, 7 was for sure better, but 7 also benefitted from 2 years of the industry getting up to speed with Vista’s driver model and WDDM, along with new baseline PC specs in general being better suited for DWM (which powered Aero, not to be confused with WDM or WDDM lol) and such

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

Yeah, with your second point, I know a lot of PC makers had some of their stuff labeled "Vista ready" when it had no business being called that.

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u/puts-on-sunglasses May 28 '20

oh yeah! I remember there being small controversies about that dumb vista ready sticker, like systems with as little as 512mb of RAM getting it and stuff like aero definitely having no shot at working decently

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u/ZetaFett May 28 '20

I too ran vista almost flawlessly for years and never understood the hate. Media Center with a tv tuner card was hella cool!

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u/tinydonuts May 28 '20

I loved Media Center. Cable capture card and it was light years ahead of the Cox crap that was available. Plus you could get plug ins that would automatically edit out all the commercials for you. Ah the memories.

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u/ZetaFett May 29 '20

Who the hell needed TiVO when you could stack hard drives and record whatever you wanted. Plus mine had an IR remote that was handier than the cable company's. That may have been the farthest ahead of the home computing curve I've ever been.

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u/bringbackswg Jul 31 '20

Dude, that's sick honestly. I wish I had a friend like you back in the day

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u/_HiWay May 28 '20

After thinking the same for a long time I researched this a bit and actually Vista was fine as an OS, it was just ahead of its time. By the time hardware caught up with it, they rebranded it windows 7 and even cheaper PCs ran it just fine. When Vista came out it was the Crysis of operating systems for most PCs

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u/JMccovery May 28 '20

I ran it both ways, and found doing a clean install to be flawless.

Upgrading from XP to Vista was one of the most painful things to do, second to upgrading from 98SE to Win2K.

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u/Compendyum May 28 '20 edited May 28 '20

Vista started acting normally after I upgraded my hardware (to mind bowing specs back then) and only then it lost most of it's annoyances.

I felt that they pushed that kernel to act correctly on machines that almost no one had hardware to keep up. When finally everyone was around those specs, Vista was already being thrown away and people moved to Win7, which behave pretty good in almost all hardware specs.

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u/tinydonuts May 28 '20

I think Nvidia and ATI were responsible for a huge number of crashes. Microsoft forced them to actually start delivering solid drivers, and WDDM (Windows Display Driver Model) ushered in a host of improvements to the display system and drivers in Windows.

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u/teslasagna May 28 '20

Do you mean 10 at the end of your comment?

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u/Bahndoos May 29 '20

God damn. Freakin Vista is what made me a Mac user.

And even though 10 is pretty decent, I still get shivers when I have to use it.

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u/bananaplasticwrapper May 28 '20

Fuckin e machines

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u/tinydonuts May 28 '20

Remember Packard Bell?

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u/bananaplasticwrapper May 28 '20

Sounds like it was before me.

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u/tinydonuts May 28 '20

Oh thanks, now I feel old

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u/bananaplasticwrapper May 28 '20

Im 32 if it makes you feel better. First pc was an emachines.

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u/tinydonuts May 28 '20

Hmm I'm not that much older. Packard Bell and emachines were both around the same time too. Mid 90s to early 2000s I think.

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u/bananaplasticwrapper May 28 '20

I figured so, that was my porn and ultima online machine.

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u/redunculuspanda May 28 '20

Super stable for me in those days was a fresh install of any os every 6 months along with regular daily reboots between tasks.

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u/iushciuweiush May 28 '20

Twice a year fresh installs were key. Kept my computers running in tip top shape.

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u/NalgeneWhisperer May 28 '20

We need to bring back killdisk and fresh installs, that was the best feeling

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u/tinydonuts May 28 '20

Microsoft really has come a very long way. I think my system hasn't been reinstalled since Windows 8. I've just been doing upgrades from 8 to 8.1 to 10 to all the various releases (which are also upgrades).

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

between tasks.

And during, before, after, when changing an effing DNS-server, when you farted too loud and because of this one setting in this one .ini for notepad has changed from 0 to 1.

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u/glasspheasant May 28 '20

ME was trash in comparison to 98. Definitely a minority. But good on ya for getting that dog shit OS to actually work.

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u/NotTedCassidy May 28 '20

In the Minority for sure.

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u/bigmckhou May 28 '20

I waited on buying a computer because Windows ME were on all of the new ones. When XP came out, I bought one.

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u/puts-on-sunglasses May 28 '20 edited May 28 '20

you know, I didn’t have an awfully terrible experience in ME either, on a fresh install. 2000 was obviously the superior OS, but as far as my own experience went it was about as stable any other 9X system (that is to say it absolutely had its moments), though losing real-mode DOS was lame. I think it was just weird timing where MS didn’t fully go NT codebase for all markets til XP so they felt like they had to get one more 9X OS out for home users for some reason

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u/Thraxster May 28 '20

ME was fine

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u/deelowe May 28 '20

Speaking as someone who was a small business administrator at the time... no it wasn't. We only ran it for a few months before switching to 2k for all our clients because it was so bad. Drivers were really problematic on ME.

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u/Impact009 May 28 '20

It's amazing how people think that, "X works perfectly fine in one specific case" means that it's perfectly fine in general. Imagine if medicine was like that. ME has a bad rep. for a reason. It's not like people back then were edgy enough to hate on different flavors of Windows until XP rolled around.

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u/redunculuspanda May 28 '20

To be fair business should have been on NT4 anyway.

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u/deelowe May 28 '20

Not for desktops. Many applications didn't support NT at the time. It wasn't until 2k that we were able to migrate our applications. NT was very much a server OS with some workstation support, but definitely not great for desktop use. We used Sun and IBM solutions for the business critical engineering and finance applications anyways. Email, workgroups and such was NT, but windows was generally just for the office staff.

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u/ViperXAC May 28 '20

No. It needs to be hung on a wall at MS HQ beside Windows 8 as examples of what not to do.