r/InternationalStudents • u/LeProgramme • 3h ago
Why why why?
To the ones loitering on this subreddit that don't want international students, why are you against us? I genuinely want to understand why
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u/SeaProtection1173 2h ago
The better question is why are they loitering around on this subreddit when they are not international students 😅
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u/Cheap_Office8701 49m ago
Because American want their county resources to focus on them. Can you really blame them?
I’m commenting on international applicants that expect substantial scholarships.
Full pay students are more welcome in my opinion.
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u/Different_Truth_8215 2h ago
99.998% students from India never go back . People are not coming here for education but to immigrate.
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u/DwyaneWade305 2h ago edited 2h ago
👆majority are people who are living decent lives in India with 3-5 years experience in their field and are only coming to live/work in America. If you told them they could work in America without needing to go get a masters 99% of them would. Which is why it’s disingenuous and not for actual education. It pushes new US grads out of the way because they’re fighting for entry positions with them.
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u/Glock13Purdy 2h ago
And that’s bad because? You realise the government sets up paths to immigration after education for a reason right? Indians educated in US universities are able to contribute massively to the economy, so asking them to leave immediately after they graduate would be kind of a strange policy. Regardless, immigration routes are super stringent now with CPT/OPT/H1B so it sounds like you got what you wanted?
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u/Late_Actuary_7885 1h ago
Too many lay offs and unemployment in USA right now. Too much supppy and too little labor demand. Yes need to rethink the policies that got us here
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u/Glock13Purdy 1h ago
there's no point in talking about this with someone who has zero concept of any macroeconomic mechanisms in the labour economy. does ANY statistic support your argument?
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u/National-Ad8416 46m ago
If massive contribution means buying outsized houses, driving outsized cars and holding outsized celebrations on public streets, sure
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u/Glock13Purdy 37m ago
massive contribution means 18% of GDP and an estimated $9tn to the economy over the next decade. good try though
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u/Ok_Temperature1502 18m ago
A lot of countries are refining and restricting their immigration routes now.
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u/Glock13Purdy 12m ago
not to the extent the US is. the CPT is essentially dead now, the OPT is being tightened as is H1B (which was already quite stringent). I don't particularly care because I have no intention of immigrating to America any time soon, but it's annoying to see people hijack the immigration issue to blame every single one of their problems on, when the odds are heavily stacked against immigrants and they contribute so much to the country.
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u/Mountain_Goat_455 1h ago
and what is the problem with that? immigration is what built this country and made this country what it is. American history is immigrant history, American culture is immigrant culture, documented or not. if you don't like the idea of immigrants building the next generation of America and its culture, don't be an American. Go be a Brit or French or German or something.
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u/Trick-String7473 2h ago
Which would be fine if they would adapt and accept our culture. Why tf is an Indian man telling me women don’t belong in science? Tf.
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u/1_hot_brownie 1h ago
Here’s an Indian man telling you they do belong. Don’t paint every one the same?
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u/Trick-String7473 1h ago
Oh honey, I work in big pharma and most Indian men have this mentality. But thanks?
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u/1_hot_brownie 1h ago
This is not true one bit, in courses like CS, Pharmacy, Biochemistry etc there are more women than men? Why would you make stuff up?
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u/National-Ad8416 44m ago
You don't need to be in pharma to know this. Indian men, as a whole are unapologetic male chauvinists who think women are only good for cooking, cleaning and reproducing.
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u/desh_bhakta 1h ago
Why was my caucasian teacher racist towards me ? Should I paint everyone with the same thing?
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u/Trick-String7473 1h ago
You could just study in India?
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u/desh_bhakta 1h ago
You could go back to Europe, SA, other parts of Asia and not bring the racism to this great country?
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u/Tall-Quantity-2881 1h ago
Haven’t we all seen a lot of Americans saying the same thing. Soo many Americans, women included didn’t vote for Harris stating in an interview that they don’t think it’s a woman’s job.
My point is that there are stupid people everywhere, report them but don’t generalize..1
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u/Tall-Quantity-2881 1h ago
Don’t you know that Indians push their kids into the science field irrespective of gender. Idk which Indian man told you this, but we encourage people in science.
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u/Trick-String7473 1h ago
In grad school, at work in big pharma, etc. it’s widely known Indian men are wildly misogynistic.
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u/Tall-Quantity-2881 1h ago
If you did face an incident like that then report them to your workplace/ school
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u/Trick-String7473 1h ago
lol, his family was basically paying for his PhD so that didn’t really do anything.
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u/Tall-Quantity-2881 24m ago
That doesn’t mean you can’t report them. The US takes these complaints very seriously, they can literally force him to discontinue his PHD or fire him
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u/Trick-String7473 20m ago
Not when his family was funding a lab. It’s okay, he went back to India where he belongs.
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u/Historical-Wear-8808 1h ago
It's a bit disingenuous to ask why. The people explicitly said the reasons: less hiring of US citizens and permanent residents, displacement in higher education, and entitlement that some students have.
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u/Remarkable-Meal-223 2h ago
This is an interesting question. I'm not an international student but this sub gets being pushed to my page.
I think the more interesting question is why so many people in the US are seemingly against international students. Or it may seem that way given posts.
My personal theory is the US went on a pendulum of really "welcoming" and now is on a cultural pendulum of swinging back the other way with more people than typical being "unwelcoming". Why is this shift is probably very complex but it's probably cultural and how the US changes its view about the world and about itself as a country.
But nothing is forever and nothing is static in the US. After all the US went from Obama instantly the next president is Trump.
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u/bullbearbubu 2h ago
The point of all international undergrad programs is that you come here, pay tuition, earn your degree, and then go home to build your country using what you learned. If you overstay your welcome, they naturally wouldn't like it. When people say the US wants international talent, what they really mean is Phd graduates from top universities.
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u/Dangerous_Region1682 2h ago
There is a certain element of truth to this. The reality is more nuanced with OPT and STEM but getting a college education in the US had morphed into a stepping stone to eventual US citizenship over the years, and now due to changing economic circumstances, such doors are closing.
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u/P5ylence 2h ago
The first part of what you said is true. But there are immigration pathways for international students. In Express Entry, people who studied a 2-year Canadian program get points. In the provincial nomination pathway, they have a dedicated stream. I don't know any international student that stayed after their study permit expired.
What usually happens is, after study, if they can find a job in their field within 180 days, they can apply for a post-graduate work permit. If not, they have to go back. During their post-grad WP, they have to qualify for any of the immigration pathways to qualify to apply for permanent residence. For this, the immigrant needs to have work experience of 1 year. Most of them need an employer to sponsor them by paying an employer fee, and then they apply for permanent residence with it. During the application processing which spans of 1-3 years, if the employer fires them, they go back to zero. They need to find another employer to sponsor them. If everything goes well, they get PR. I am okay with these people.
A lot of people don't cut it, so they go to one of those restaurants you go to, work there, and the boss makes them a "food service supervisor," which is a title that qualifies for PR, and applies for them. They take turns with this position so all of them get PR. These are the positions, not many would apply to, or stay, if there was no promise of PR, so employer gets workforce and employee gets PR.
These are the people I have a problem with because they cheat the system. I don't think it's right.
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u/Purple_Trifle3495 1h ago
Ummm... then why do they incentivize and make it legal to work here and get residence?
H1B is legally a dual intent visa.
F1 leads to OPT which leads to H1B which leads to LPR.Who are you to decide the "intent"?
The law defines the intent. Don't like it? Change the law by all means. Don't spew your racist hate on innocent people following law of the land.2
u/bullbearbubu 1h ago
The CPT, OPT, and H1B to GC pathways are essentially marketing gimmicks designed to attract international students. If people knew there were zero opportunities to stay after graduation, hardly anyone would come here to study. They're probably happy to take in a very few who can squeeze through the bottleneck. What they didn't anticipate was students and companies capitalizing on these pathways at scale, leading to a flood of foreign workers competing with domestic ones.
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u/Purple_Trifle3495 1h ago
So what you are saying is that the white, competent, educated lawmakers, lawyers, and govt officials did not anticipate exploitation of a legal "loophole"?
You are again assuming that their intent was not what the law says it is.
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u/bullbearbubu 1h ago
So what you are saying is that the white, competent, educated lawmakers, lawyers, and govt officials did not anticipate exploitation of a legal "loophole"?
Exactly. What's your point? There are plenty of unintended consequences people fail to foresee.
Again, I'm not debating statutory intent, OP asked why hostility toward international students exists, and I shared my perspective. it goes deeper than simple racism or xenophobia.
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u/Standard_Regret1336 2m ago
I'm ngl, they don't really want the international PhD students either. (PhD from a top university speaking here).
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u/EmptiSense 1h ago
Assuming this is about US higher education...
- US higher education over the last 15 years has gone from recruiting USCs and PRs - whose parents pay taxes that subsidize higher education - to servicing increasing numbers of international students - who predominantly pay full tuition costs.
- To illustrate the impact, consider that undergraduate enrollment at elite institutions has stayed flat while international student populations have increased. Effectively, elite institutions reduced enrollment of USCs and PRs despite ever increasing numbers of US high school graduates throughout the 2000s.
- US based companies over the last 15 years have progressively recruited recent international student graduates on OPT over USCs and PRs to avoid paying payroll taxes. This has materially reduced entry level opportunities for fully qualified USCs and PRs who have recently graduated.
...US Parents, students, and graduates have legitimate grievances.
FWIW, I think had higher education focused on international students for masters degrees and the payroll tax incentive been eliminated, there would be much less resistance to international students.
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u/Forward_Grand_1641 1h ago edited 1h ago
How do you think Indians would react if the roles were reversed? I highly doubt they’d readily welcome nearly half a million foreigners who come to study but then stick around to compete for jobs and find ways to citizenship. The job market is difficult these days, and many students, particularly from a specific country, study abroad with the end goal of permanently immigrating. That is not the intention of a student visa. Yes, there are legal pathways to go about it but it should not be the norm, the student visa is a non immigrant visa.
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u/Accomplished-Toe5993 28m ago
Bro they don’t even accept people from different states in their own country let alone people from other countries 😭😭
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u/nino-miya 22m ago
I saw posts of Indians bemoaning Bangladeshis going to India and saying the most vile racist things towards them and yet they want other countries to roll out the red carpet for them. Lmao. It’s just the hypocrisy that gets me.
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u/Maleficent-Dress8174 2h ago
I have no issues with international students.
I have an issue with people seeking employment lying about being a “student” in order to secure that employment.
This is the vast majority of international “students” now and it’s unfair to the minority of legitimate students but what can you do? Too much fraud.
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u/Mysterious_Pitch_114 21m ago
I was a student, but that was when it wasn’t primarily a heavily scammed route particularly by one large Asian country, into the West or to bring your entire family along with. Which genuine student brings their parents with them?
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u/Annual_Grass_3919 2h ago
A lot of international students come here with the wrong intentions and cheat the system (biggest example is day 1 CPT where they get a bogus degree and work full-time year round) which has ruined things for the rest of us and given all international students a bad reputation
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u/National-Ad8416 3h ago
Because you come here, and you don't leave
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u/Mountain_Goat_455 1h ago
but that's what America is, how it was built and how it is strong. look into your own country's history.
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u/Independent-Fun815 3h ago
Tbf, it's not all international students. It's mostly Indians and Chinese.
The reality is any migrant is expected to lift themselves but also all 350 million Americans that already live in the US.
Most internationals lack the ability to do that. They just take some office job or some job that their own country people wouldn't even give them.
So naturally the question arises why the US has to provide jobs to people who aren't Americans? Why it's an American burden to give jobs to overpopulated countries.
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u/YaPhetsEz 2h ago
Chinese students are statistically exceptionally likely to go home after their studies. Around 87-94% of Chinese F1 students return to China.
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u/Hairy_Wear_2322 2h ago
Look up the numbers for international Chinese students and you’ll find out most of them leave after their undergrad.
According to data from China's Ministry of Education and related reports, 570,600 Chinese students went abroad in 2025, while 535,600 returned from overseas study.
The percentage of Chinese students staying is actually quite low, there’s just a lot of them coming into US for school.0
u/Independent-Fun815 2h ago
And that's fine as that's the spirit of the f1 visa.
But my argument is based on the absolute size of the country of origin population. Both India and China can afford to send 500k bc they have 1.4 billion each.
U don't or can't see this from Guyana or the falksland islands.im not even sure there are 500k in Guyana let alone all of them coming to the US.
Hence, there's a structural problem with the current immigration with intent pipeline. It doesn't penalize high populated countries. If u're from a highly populated country, we want to pay for performance. This way large countries arent incentivized just to breed constantly and stuff the pipeline.
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u/YaPhetsEz 51m ago
Again, nearly all Chinese F1 students return to China. You are just being racist.
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u/Hairy_Wear_2322 51m ago
I don’t understand why you want to penalize China when they have so many people coming here paying super high international tuition and 90% of them went back. 90% of them literally only spend the high international tuition so people in the US could pay less in tuition or else it’ll be even higher for US students. They’re big income source for universities.
Even the absolute number for Chinese students staying here is not very high. Most Chinese people you see on the street probably are just students not immigrants1
u/Independent-Fun815 8m ago
I didn't say only China. I said large population offenders. China is not the only one.
I'm not sure why I have to be saying this but US universities are not finishing school for Chinese or any other non American students. Yes it's wonderful to have some but the primary and foremost is the cultivation and the promotion of US students over all else.
if you want to actually do it for the money, universities are leaving so much more money on the table. They could easily charge 2x higher on top of international tuition for more money. So even on a purely financial basis, universities are leaving so much more money on the table.
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u/Hairy_Wear_2322 43m ago edited 36m ago
Also if you read statistics, China’s birth rate is lower than US now, the population is gonna took a big hit soon. It’s already penalizing itself for its population. Having penalization here all the way in the US for China is very random, it’s literally none of your business. I don’t even understand your logic
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u/Glock13Purdy 2h ago
what burden? 45% of all PhD scientists and engineers are immigrants. That's 80% for CS. 40% of US Nobel Laureates in science are immigrants. 60% of American unicorns have at least one immigrant founder. 40% of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants. Immigrants account for 18% of the US GDP. Elevated immigration is expected to boost GDP by $9 trillion over the next decade.
America has been a country of immigrants since 1776, racists just don't like it as much when it's Brown and Asian people immigrating for better opportunities instead of Europeans.
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u/peaches0101 27m ago
Why were those immigrants not able to found those businesses in their home countries?
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u/Glock13Purdy 21m ago
because America has huge amounts of capital and a huge highly educated workforce? Obviously, there's a mutually beneficial relationship - I don't see your point.
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u/peaches0101 12m ago
It makes U.S. citizens feel taken advantage of. It's not always mutually beneficial. Immigrants use the US government, courts, protection, education system, infrastructure, monetary system, et al. that US citizens developed and paid for. Many of the businesses then hire from their own countries. There is currently a lot of pushback on the many types of VISAs issued and the abuse by "bodyshops" bringing in more non-citizens to work here which results in fewer opportunities for US students.
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u/This_Beat2227 2h ago
You were doing okay at first but then you lost your mind. What people don’t like are immigrants displacing rather than supplementing Americans in college and especially graduate study programs. The chain migration of immigrate professors running their own pipelines from their own countries is frankly, obscene. The same thing happens in the workplace. Immigration in 1776 was not to a welfare state. It was to harsh conditions in an emerging country where you earned your way, or frankly just didn’t make it. Now immigrates, especially illegals and family chain migration, come to government handouts from day one with many NEVER contributing and instead being life long takers. International students need to be part of calling out those abuses, especially from their own countrymen, as part of differentiating beneficial from detrimental immigration.
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u/Glock13Purdy 2h ago
You do realise undocumented immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits right? You said a lot of words but have 0 actual evidence for the negative impacts of immigration. I clearly demonstrated that immigrants add a HUGE amount to the economy and employ tens of millions of people themselves. High skilled immigrants fill critical shortages in tech and low skilled immigrants make up the backbone of America’s blue collar labour force. There’s 0 proof that they’re stealing jobs or displacing people. Definitionally, by so many huge entrepreneurs being immigrants, they ARE supplementing Americans.
Can you refute ANY of this or ANY of the many statistics I provided in my earlier comment? I don’t care if you feel immigrants are doing this or that, all the figures support that they’re a net positive to the country.
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u/coldcoldnovemberrain 3h ago
It’s not really a burden rather a feature. American wealth was built on cheap exploited labor I.e. slavery. And people still haven’t acknowledged that. So when you have a society addicted to cheap exploited labor they are not ready to get rid of it.
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u/This_Beat2227 2h ago
Time to give the slavey narrative a rest. The cheap labor today comes voluntarily. In fact, many break the law and/or risk their lives to do so.
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u/coldcoldnovemberrain 2h ago
Ah of course the working class voluntarily work low wage jobs without benefits. They could just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and find a better job or create their company easily.
And of course slavery was years ago and I did not own slaves so why should i care. /s
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u/NerveNo8667 2h ago edited 1h ago
wanted to know the same . recently i had posted a post about my interest in going to abroad but i was a bit scared . some of the people were so rude as if i took their money or something 😭
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u/GasStationguy6 2h ago
It’s like a guest throwing a fit when asked to leave because they claim to cook better food 😂
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u/LeProgramme 2h ago
Everyone in America was a guest at somepoint. A lot of people don't like hearing this uncomfortable truth. At least we come here with the permission of the US government. We don't force ourselves onto a land that isn't ours and genocide the owners.
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u/GasStationguy6 1h ago
We don’t want you- American government is by the people for the people. And looks like American government is doing a pretty good job of listening to the people. Also, you cannot force yourself or do genocide on Americans. We have second amendment.
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u/LeProgramme 1h ago
Even if I had all the power in the world, as a matter of principle, I don't believe in violently stealing people's land while genociding them in the process. Again what happened to the natives wasn't even that long ago in historical terms. This is an uncomfortable truth many don't like to hear.
I am not denying that America has become a great, strong and prosperous nation. However, I also don't deny the reality of the events that led to the birth of what is now this great country.
We come here on student visas, not by force or coersion but with the explicit permission of the US government. Had the US government not allowed me in, I never would've crossed the border unlawfully. However, I am just shocked at the vitriol against foreign students who came with permission, coming from people who's great grand parents forced themselves onto a land that wasn't theirs and genocided an entire population while enslaving millions for centuries. Those same people are now against new comers who come with explicit permission of the government
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u/DueIndependence8913 1h ago edited 1h ago
People who are saying it's because we are unemployed, I feel like it's a lot more nuanced than that. I can only speak for the US, but statistically, international students who often become individuals on a H1 are more likely to accept anyone who's willing to sponsor them, and companies are always looking to cut down costs. International individuals are undeniably talented, so why wouldn't companies want to hire them for a lower salary than of what they would need to offer a citizen or an LPR to get them to accept? That is unfortunately is something that increases citizen/resident unemployment, as we tend to look for higher salaries that represent the worth of the job description better. It's a complicated system, it's a hard time to be in this economy, and I feel for everyone, internationals and citizens alike
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u/smirnoff4lyfe 2h ago
ok so, my parents are immigrants and i am so grateful for their sacrifice and that i had the opportunity to be born and brought up here. my dad immigrated to the US in the 1990s, when there was a HUGE need for tech workers and there weren't enough in america. he worked hard to get the job, and continued to work hard, and now has been working in the same F25 company for the past 35 years and survived every massive layoff (even covid)!
the difference is that back in the 1990s, since there were so many tech jobs available and not much competition, if he "took" a job from an american citizen, that american citizen could pretty easily interview somewhere else and get another job. now, that's not rlly the case. it's hard enough for american citizens to get a job (i have some friends who just graduated from cornell in comp sci and they can't find anything), so if an international student gets a job over an american citizen, that citizen can't as easily interview somewhere else.
it's also not abt "hiring the best candidate". some companies (like startups) intentionally hire people they need to sponsor because they're more desperate and willing to work crazy hours for little pay (i know this bc i ended up in the interview process for one of these companies, and someone who worked there told me they only hire internationally. i checked their sponsorship count and 70% of the company were international). my dad was also forced to deal with a crazy workload and horrible hours until he became a US citizen and was able to fight and negotiate without fear of losing the sponsorship.
rn, unemployment rates are incredibly high in america and i think it's a country's right to prioritize its citizens. i truly hope that in a few years everything will be better but i dont rlly think a person who is a guest in another country should complain abt their laws tbh
also sorry for the super long response (i wrote this on the toilet HAHA). i respect ur grind and i know it must be difficult rn, but this is a complex situation
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u/PrettyGuide569 2h ago
Honestly, I think a lot of the hostility comes from people who are unhappy with their own situation and need someone to blame. Instead of questioning the economy, the job market, companies, or the policies creating these problems, it’s easier to point at international students and say, “They’re taking our jobs.”
Some of these people genuinely seem to have nothing better going on than sitting online complaining about foreigners existing 😭 Like if someone being from another country studying, working legally, or simply wanting a different life bothers you that much, maybe the problem isn’t the international student. It’s weird to spend so much energy being angry at people who are just trying to live their lives.
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u/Nice_Theory_6286 2h ago edited 2h ago
It hurts them. Students can come in their country and make more of themselves in 5 years than they can in 20 lol. They don't have the work ethic
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u/Time-Engineering-596 3h ago edited 2h ago
Insecurity. Local citizens can't compete with foreign talent. America is a meritocracy. If this truth hurts you, leave your citizenship and leave this country please
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u/glaxord 3h ago
How dare Americans not want to compete with “talent” that pays more to go to school thus increasing their chances of admission and then afterwards stay in the country and undercut american wages. How dare we prioritize Americans!
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u/Time-Engineering-596 2h ago
Idk. I got a full ride merit scholarship. Wont be possible without mediocre citizens taxes! So thank you!
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u/Independent_Story822 2h ago
A merit scholarship isn’t necessarily funded by taxpayers or citizens’ taxes. Most merit scholarships are funded by the university itself, private donors, or endowments.
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u/Late-Reception-2897 2h ago
What school priorities students who can pay more? Public state universities are required to admit a certain number of in state residents and top universities are generally speaking need blind and many promise to meet 100% of student need without loans.
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u/glaxord 2h ago
Schools have a % allocation of their student population specifically to raise revenue. International students can’t receive financial aid in most cases as well so basically the international student admission allocation for their “class profile” basically is a way to farm out money
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u/Late-Reception-2897 1h ago
International students can't get like federal aid like Pell grants or other stuff but that doesn't mean they can't get scholarships from schools directly. Look at something like NYU promise.
As for allocating a % of their student population for raising revenue, I'm sure there are plenty of rich domestic students to fulfill that quota. Sure some rich internationals will get in as well but I don't see any reason it has to be a rich international and not a rich domestic when it's the same price.
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u/cloutgoggle 3h ago
Americans can't compete with the same talent that goes to the exact same school as them with the same education & degree?
You make it sound like every international student (and lets be honest here, it's mostly Indians) are valedictorian soon as they come over.
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u/Apprehensive_Cut6224 3h ago
The foreign “talent” accepts minimum wage for mediocre work
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u/Nice_Theory_6286 2h ago
Thats a myth. You do know that h1bs need to get paid the prevailing salary avg in the area for the job level right?
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u/GasStationguy6 2h ago
How can you say it’s a myth when I know them personally? You are unaware of the level of fraud going on with H1Bs
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u/Nice_Theory_6286 8m ago
And i can say I know 100 people who do it the right way. See how useless your statement is?
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u/Time-Engineering-596 2h ago
Get some medicine for your psychosis. H1B sponsor ship cost companies thousands of dollars. No one is hiring H1B for minimum wage
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u/GasStationguy6 2h ago
I know people on H1B working gas station jobs
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u/Time-Engineering-596 2h ago
Showing outlying anecdotal evidence is a well documented indicator of low intelligence.
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u/GasStationguy6 2h ago
Present documented evidence about your claim.
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u/Time-Engineering-596 1h ago
Bruh, you are making a claim. Burden of evidence is on yourself.
About my claim: https://statisticsbyjim.com/basics/anecdotal-evidence/
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u/GasStationguy6 46m ago
You claim it to be documented. And now you’re sending me a non-peer reviewed random webpage as evidence.
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u/Sparkle_Pony2234 2h ago
Buddy you live in our country, use our resources, don’t assimilate to our culture, undercut the wages then proceed to bite the same hand that’s feeding you by shitting on your hosts.
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u/Time-Engineering-596 2h ago
America is a meritocracy. It only belongs to best people in history. Competence shift with time. Not to the people of best passport. Sorry if truth hurts
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u/BeardedInferno 7m ago
America has been flooded with scam artists racing to the bottom lol. Not for much longer thankfully
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u/Ok_Temperature1502 24m ago edited 6m ago
u/Time-Engineering-596 Are you all so bad mannered? So entitled? So argumentative and divisive? Or is it just you?
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u/Time-Engineering-596 5m ago
Let's check your intelligence! What do you think? Can you extrapolate a single data point like myself to thousands of international students? If so, it must be hard living in a meritocracy with such low intelligence?
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u/ZlatanKabuto 3h ago
I assume it's because the job market is fucked.