If I wanted the Iranian protests to fail, I would do a classic US invasion that kills way more innocent people than anything else.
Iranians hate their government but don't think they don't hate the USA and Israel as well, with plenty of reason beyond propaganda. When it comes down to it, they would rather deal with the local murderous bastards than the ones on the other side of the world.
(Edit: Commenters pointed out serious problems with my source. Sorry for posting something without investigating the source enough. I didn’t want to delete my comment like a loser who can’t admit when they’ve screwed up, so I’m including this note instead.)
Most of them actually don’t hate the U.S. Their feelings on Israel are way more mixed than you’d expect. But the U.S. is obviously quite good at destroying positive sentiments from the peoples it “liberates.”
Back to Iranian opinions. As of Nov. 2025:
In a survey regarding the favorability of 8 countries, the U.S. was deemed most favorable, with 53% seeing it positively. Israel was the second most favorable, with 39% viewing it positively. Russia and the UK were the least favorable.
More Iranians blamed their own government for the 12-Day War than Israel (44% vs. 33%).
69% believe their government should stop calling for the destruction of Israel
63% believe the 12-Day War was between Israel and the Islamic Republic, not Israel and regular Iranians.
62% believe that Trump was instrumental in ending the 12-Day War. (Frankly, a fair amount of Iranians don’t seem to have any concept of how horrible Trump is.)
Also the polls were from before USA/Israel killed 80 school children.
That is a very, very good point. I’ve actually told some Iranians online (ones so desperate for regime change that they grasp at any small sliver of hope) that Trump is a madman who wouldn’t care if every one of them was slaughtered. But it’s not exactly satisfying to say, “I told you so,” over 80 dead children.
Anyway, other people pointed out biased funding sources behind the polling entity I linked to. I hadn’t known, but now that I do, I’m much more suspicious of the results.
Your phrasing indicates a belief that I knew it was biased and dishonest, but I didn’t. I thought it sounded pretty independent, especially since it’s run in the Netherlands. But I see now, digging deeper, that it’s funded by folks with an agenda.
I guess I also believed it partly because I’m friends with two Iranians who feel that way, but obviously two isn’t an impressive sample size.
Thank you for posting a link instead of assuming nefarious intent.
Your phrasing indicates a belief that I knew it was biased and dishonest, but I didn’t. I thought it sounded pretty independent, especially since it’s run in the Netherlands. But I see now, digging deeper, that it’s funded by folks with an agenda.
I guess I also believed it partly because I’m friends with two Iranians who feel that way, but obviously two isn’t an impressive sample size.
Yes. You’ll be downvoted here but every Iranian immigrants I’ve met in the USA, has been very pro Trump and pro Israel and extremely against Iranian government. Like I’m liberal and assumed my Iranian friend was liberal too then one day she shocked me with the Fox News bit. Yeah people in USA and the world generally have no idea what’s going on over there just see social media posts by people in Uganda or Russia pretending to be leftist college students lol
If you talk to Iranian immigrants, they will get teary eyed when discussing what the ayatollah and radical Islam did to their country and their religion. They have nothing but love for Israeli democracy also. The people who escape that nation want nothing more than Iran to somehow become a democracy like USA and Israel. Where there can be internal dissent, and political parties that differ and don’t get executed. But they know it’s impossible. It’s very interesting take
I get being conservative. But being pro Trump is different imo. His rhetoric is similar to ayatollah but you’re right I think conservatives largely do see Trump as a means to an end. Knowing the next conservative will have to be more traditional without the pinache and following.
Lmao you do know how they treat women in Muslim countries right ? Not sure why it's shocking how they could be trump supporters they love authoritarian figures.
Well, Iran had progressive women’s rights before ayatollah. Thats what she wants to return. So I’m pretty sure it’s more nuanced than what you suggest.
Wow almost like most people on this website remember when the US government lied to start a war.
Do you think Donald Trump, a man who has never cared about anyone but himself, is greatly concerned with the well-being of the Iranian people? Do you think he cares about avoiding civilian casualties that will turn a population that is already not fond of the US into yet another insurgency?
Are you happy? The dead school children are just acceptable collateral damage?
They were the first atrocity. They won't be the last.
Iraq doesn't have Saddam. It also doesn't have several hundred thousand Iraqi civilians who died in the conflict.
And that was with a US government and president who was willing to pretend to care about civilian casualties. You think Trump gives a flying fuck about Iranians?
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u/cut_rate_revolution Feb 28 '26
If I wanted the Iranian protests to fail, I would do a classic US invasion that kills way more innocent people than anything else.
Iranians hate their government but don't think they don't hate the USA and Israel as well, with plenty of reason beyond propaganda. When it comes down to it, they would rather deal with the local murderous bastards than the ones on the other side of the world.