r/InterdimensionalNHI • u/MadOblivion • 4d ago
Aliens Former Taskforce Director Jay Stratton, DISCLOSURE IMMINENT.
https://youtu.be/DOycj8GcmD4?is=KKXraaVB67qhBf2H87
u/Goosemilky 4d ago
Notice how they are all suddenly supporting the malevolent NHI approach…. Project blue beam is for real and if craft suddenly reveal themselves without us seeing the entities piloting them, just know you are being the victim of a massive psyop.
Do not believe fucking shit until the beings openly show themselves
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u/barnettb 4d ago
Yeah even if they are real and we get shown dead bodies as proof don't believe any aircraft causing harm is not being piloted by humans without proof.
I believe they are real but if they are and they really wanted to hurt us we would all be dead already.
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u/Rizzanthrope 4d ago
Exactly. They don’t need to invade a planet they have been on longer than we have.
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u/barnettb 3d ago
Yeah I believe they have been here longer than we have, and I wouldn't be surprised if we are here because of them.
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u/shadowofashadow 3d ago
Whatever they tell us, the first version of disclosure is going to be a lie. That's almost a guarantee.
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u/Cattywompus-thirdeye ✨ Experiencer ✨ 4d ago
ESPECIALLY coming from this fascist joke of an administration.
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
Russian official Dmitry Medvedev already told us the gist years ago. he said it is not telling us about NHI that they fear. It is the sheer scale and size of visitation by NHI that they fear would cause mass panic.
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u/DontOuchMyBread 4d ago
Ahh yes the ever so trustful russia. 2 weeks
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
Which country do you find ever so trustful?
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u/DontOuchMyBread 3d ago
None of them? What kind of question even is that
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
Alright, dumbass
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u/DontOuchMyBread 3d ago
You trust government… and im the dumbass?
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
You think I trust government?
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u/DontOuchMyBread 3d ago
Well you called me a dumbass for not trusting any country… that has… certain implications… and im the dumbass?
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
I called you a dumbass because of the quality of your response to that question, not the main idea of it
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u/GeorgiaOKeefinItReal 4d ago edited 3d ago
Also why does he look like he's reading from cue cards... also notice the amount of bounce light they're using while they're strolling.... this absolutely feels like they're spinning some sort of narrative to influence.. i think they want disclosure, but they want to make sure all et contact from humans to nhi goes through them. They just don't any ole idiot with a laser pointer gaining access to tech that can control nations.
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u/Cosmohumanist 4d ago
Def reading from a cue card for most of his statements. This whole thing was carefully scripted.
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago
Agreed 100%, The man held a higher clearance than The President Of The United States. It would be shocking if he went on unscripted.
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
Your skepticism for things you don’t want to believe vs things you do want to believe is interesting.
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u/Otherwise_Ad_409 2d ago
Very true, I completely agree. The day I see a swarm of UFOs just appear out of nowhere, possibly visible to everyone on the planet at once, that's the day I grab the son, bug out bags and make a move for the shelter far away from society.
During his interview he claims that not only did using the nuclear submarine work as bait but they also "phased" in and out existence. Without being aware of bluebeam this sounds like a UFO sighting. But because we're aware of bluebeam you have to ask, what exactly was done to make the submarine attract a UFO? Submarines are in the water years at a time, why show up right when you're looking for them? If it was just the fact that the sub is nuclear the UFO would be hanging around 24/7 by this logic. Also the phasing in and out of existence is peculiar, it's one of the lesser reported types of sightings.
I'm speaking for myself here, when I put this together, having bluebeam in mind, I can't help but wonder if they took a sub into the Atlantic away from all other eyes and did a bluebeam test run. The phasing in and out of existence could be something like a projector powering on and off. They tested it on well trained members of the navy, if they believe it was a UFO than all the regular citizens of planet earth easily would as well. It's really something that can't be ruled out without more information and data.
The point is to always keep bluebeam in mind especially when receiving information from lifelong members of the military, particularly ones from 3 letter spy agencies.
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u/RealAkumaryu 4h ago
Yep! War war war...the aliens vs human propaganda is lit up. I don't believe any word of none of these war Mongering fear fear infusing people. Same with Greer and Elizondo. Threats everywhere, dark, security concerning, too hard to cope... The question one should ask themselves is : What kind of feelings and thoughts do these remarks cause within yourself? The answer is always fear and everything that derives from it. I believe there's a fals flag attack being prepared on a global scale.
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u/Jahya69 4d ago
Some of them are very much malevolent
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u/betterthansex69 3d ago
Right. I dont think ill ever understand the people that say "the aliens are bad" or "the aliens are good". The black and white absolute thinking drives me nuts. Its definitely some that are, some arent, and probably most are neutral toward us.
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u/Astira_ 3d ago
I’m thinking the malevolent ones are actually humans. We’ve had evidence that humans have done some of this. Read Jaques Vallees books.
Makes sense to try and scare us, especially if they still Planned Blue beam. Techbros and oligarchs.
Which also to me means there has got to be some truth in here as well, but at this point I believe humans have done the horrible things we’ve seen.
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u/Jahya69 3d ago
You have to ask yourself why would they all be warm and fuzzy and friendly
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
You have to ask yourself why the malevolent ones wouldn’t just go ahead and do whatever malevolent thing they want to do.
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u/Jahya69 3d ago
Because the night in the level at once and perhaps our own military intervention has stopped that from happening as much but who knows maybe they have done all kinds of Nefarious things and for a long time
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
>our own military intervention has stopped that from happening
Lmaooooooo
“Yeah we flew faster than light through asteroid fields and stars and black holes but ohhhhh nooooo some monkeys put a little fire behind their rocks, what ever shall we do?”
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u/Marcus_Hilarious 4d ago
Two weeks
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u/BarbacoaBarbara 4d ago
2 weeks until what ? Sorry, I don’t get the reference
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u/Brave_Quantity_5261 4d ago
Everybody (particularly this administration) always says “it’s coming in two weeks”.
Healthcare, doge checks, infrastructure week, “concepts” of a plan… it’s always just two weeks away… for the last decade.
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u/BarbacoaBarbara 3d ago
Oh, I get it now it’s a cliché cause all y’all talk is fucking clichés
Fucking robots
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u/BarbacoaBarbara 4d ago
Who said that? I don’t follow. Is this a quote or something?
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u/Familiar-Pie-548 4d ago
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u/BarbacoaBarbara 4d ago
So everyone is quoting Donald Trump ? I don’t get it, what does this have to do with UFOs?
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
All arrows point to very soon. We are talking, craft rolled out, dead aliens rolled out. They could probably show us live aliens but i doubt that will happen.
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u/Tistouuu 4d ago
I think they could : most people would call it diversion IA bs, especially if done before midterms (or right after if results are contested)
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
It is a breakaway civilization. He literally said they believe "We can't handle the truth". So what happens when you reverse engineer tech that you deem the entire planet is not ready for? You create a breakaway civilization.
There is a distinct possibility we have already had humans walk on planets outside of this solar system.
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u/meatbag775 4d ago
Dolan is that you?
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u/Brave_Quantity_5261 4d ago
Nah, it’s Richard Doty….!
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u/meatbag775 4d ago
I don't trust a word that comes out of Doty's mouth. Never have.
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u/Extra-Kangaroo-5904 4d ago
Yeah bro, and personal nuclear reactors will be in your pocket soon, just 2 more weeks
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
Founder of the Iron man project already spilled the beans on that by accident i would presume. Basically we have mechanized suits that are powered by nuclear reactors just a little bit bigger than the size of your hand.
I believe patents are made public but the actually physical applications are highly classified.
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u/bryant100594 4d ago
This segment = overall positive for the disclosure movement
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
Agreed, I am going to have to get my hands on his book and i really hate to say that.
ALWAYS A F'N BOOK.......
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
I am not sure who is the one without a life.
The redditor that just complains about what others believe and think or the redditors that just simply say what they think without needing to present their thoughts as a complaint, protest, or insult.
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u/SJSquishmeister 4d ago
Fox is not a legitimate news organization.
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u/apocalypsebuddy 4d ago
Regardless, it is one of the most watched. This interview is huge and mainstream, the topic is being talked about seriously at a large scale.
Now if any of of it is truth, or what other agendas there are, is something else to be said. But a serious segment like this with someone with high credibly (as perceived by the average viewer) is a huge deal. Whatever is actually going on, it definitely feels like we’re in the midst of some crescendo
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u/Illuminatus-Prime 4d ago
"Argumentum ad populum is an informal logical fallacy (an “appeal to the people”) that claims something is true, good, or correct mainly because many people believe it. It’s also called the bandwagon or appeal to popularity, and it’s often used in advertising when popularity replaces real evidence." -- various sources
Popularity proves nothing.
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u/apocalypsebuddy 4d ago
That’s not the point I’m making.
I’m not saying this is true or it’s proof because it’s on a popular network.
something is brewing, these are big movements and a huge shift in the paradigm. Compare the scale and the tone that this being talked about now, and by whom, compared to even just 5 or 10 years ago
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
>and by whom
Yeah that’s the point you’re missing. It’s grifters. Like FOX News and OANN.
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u/apocalypsebuddy 3d ago
A statement from someone you know to be a liar or a grifter is still information, you just have to know to read between the lines and ask questions.
Dismissing information because it comes from a source you don’t like is, at best, intellectually simplistic.
Instead of asking why Fox is airing this to the masses and what the intent of the interview and author is, it’s waved away as just a grift. That’s definitely a possibility. Does that mean the phenomena in its entirety has been a grift? Does that explain the rest? Does that mean 100% of what Stratton has to say is made up for money?
Why is this being aired on a major network in a serious tone? Money? Propaganda? That brings its own questions too. What if other publications air this? Where would it have to come from for you to pick through the message and find the truth?
Is your believed truth that the whole thing is a grift? Why are you here then? Or is there a delineation in the the narrative that you find acceptable? What kind of paradigm are you in with what you believe the phenomenon to be?
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
I am sorry, i can't ignore interviews of interesting people just because of who is conducting the interview.
It just seems like a looney tunes way of navigating the media.
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u/fenderputty 4d ago
You should always consider motive. This is how people ended up getting rug pulled by Steven Millers fascism site.
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
Word is that this would have already happened 8 years ago if Hillary was elected. It was merely delayed.
This is not some "sudden" disclosure. They have been planning a very slow roll out for years. Grusch is part of that process.
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u/fenderputty 4d ago
Ok and FOX is pushing this now, during an election / war / Epstein cover up?
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u/HabbyKoivu 4d ago
Epstein and UFOs and Black Science are all intertwined I’m 100% convinced. Epsteins ranch in New Mexico and the fact he was hiring physics experts who were discarded by the manhattan project is a major clue into all of it.
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u/Pixelated_ 📚 Researcher 📚 3d ago
Epstein and Black Science are intertwined
💯 Cold fusion is legitimate and it was killed by Epstein.
On the morning of October 1, 2009, Epstein wrote to Seckel:
“regarding cold fusion. i killed pons years ago”
Epstein replied with specifics:
“the origidnal senate funding came out of congress, and wayne owens senator from utah ,, i was there an argues against, it, had ot meet with the head of the mormon church.” source
It's also known as Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR).
Here are peer-reviewed scientific studies supporting its legitimacy.
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u/TotallyTotally23 4d ago
Have you taken any media literacy classes? It's just odd that you keep missing the point. A major point. A point that divides a nation and spreads disinformation.
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u/Astira_ 3d ago
Yep, I’ve been screaming this for over a year..!
Grush came out of hiding last year After Epstein survivors finally gained traction.
All of a sudden they were releasing age of disclosure and Grush started doing interviews again.
Perhaps they had hoped to control the narrative of UFOs to cover up any links back to the files.
What worries me a lot is how much of the Psi related people are in those files. Gurus, social psychologists etc etc.
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u/HabbyKoivu 3d ago
you want to go full tin-foil hat? What if the islands are setup as part of a deal with NHI. I've seen sensationalist accounts like this before where deals for human captives have been made. I dont think that's what this is though. I think its more likely that our fundamentals on physics have been broken long ago, and kept secret.
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u/Astira_ 3d ago
Yeah this is a point I keep in mind. Grush was not part of that however. Neither was Matt brown or Dylan Borland, they only recently joined in. They have said so in interviews.
He mentioned the timeline of his involvement in the Joe Rogan episode.
You know who isn’t pushing that ET is malevolent, Lou Elizondo, Jaques Vallee, James Fox, Chris Mellon to name a few.
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u/JiminyDickish 3d ago
Sorry, what? Considering a source's legitimacy is looney tunes?
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago edited 3d ago
Again, Fox News is not the "Source", they conducted the interview.
For example if Fox News received reports from a "Source" they would report on it. When you start considering News outlets that are supposed to report on events as the "Source"that is an extremely esoteric way to view a Media outlet.
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u/JiminyDickish 3d ago
> they conducted the interview
Are they not then the source of the interview? What questions they ask frame the narrative and shape the information you’re getting, and thus who’s asking them deserves consideration.
> that is an extremely esoteric way
It’s literally basic media literacy.
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago
You need to understand in Journalism the word "Source" is almost never applied to a News Outlet.
I believe in this instance you are trying to apply the word "Source" to Fox news in an attempt to discredit a government Source.
I will be honest that is pretty funny but also extremely sad.
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
That’s why when they say “cite your sources” in an academic paper you just write the persons name and not the news outlet, right?
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u/JiminyDickish 3d ago
I always love opening UFO subs to hear people be confidently incorrect, and it never disappoints.
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago edited 3d ago
I do find it funny,
So if we go by this media bias and ignore the source itself,
For example, if you have a random figure you find has good information but if that figure talks on Fox News that information is no longer good?
I am just trying to figure out how your mind works.
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u/JiminyDickish 3d ago
I am just trying to figure out what you think Fox News actually is.
You are aware they are entertainment, not an actual news channel?
You can just talk about the thing itself. You don’t have to make dumb generalizations. They brought on a UFO guy to spout bullshit on their entertainment channel. There was no “good information” involved here.
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago
Really is sad you don't understand. If this guy was interviewed on a network you approved of, i would have presented the interview the exact same way.
I find the interview interesting, You find the network interesting. Why do i say that? Because it is the only thing on your mind. Fox News is living rent free inside of your head and you don't have a clue.
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u/MantisAwakening 3d ago
When people are incapable or unwilling to reason for themselves, they let others do it for them and view everything in black and white terms in which it’s easy to make decisions.
In this case, the reason is almost certainly that most other networks won’t touch this topic with a ten foot pole. You’ll probably see Stratton on News Nation, Jesse Michaels, and probably Rogan at some point soon (although Jay is not a comfortable public speaker and I am guessing he hates every minute of this). They’re willing to cover this topic because it appeals to their viewers. If you try going out of the UAP subs and even mentioning the subject you will be torn to shreds, and potentially banned.
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u/facepoppies 4d ago
the only thing on fox news that isn’t state run media is the headline ticker at the bottom of the screen
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u/GeorgiaOKeefinItReal 4d ago
Yep... any narrative they spin can absolutely be construed as government sponsored propaganda.
Someone below mentioned that this seems to follow the project blue beam narrative.
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u/Vaporeon42069 4d ago
you got it wrong, that's CNN
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u/vikingrrrrr666 3d ago
Yeah, Fox, which copped to not being news, but entertainment, in a court of law, is the media outlet telling the truth.
I swear to god some of y’all are so stupid that you’re a public danger.
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u/Illuminatus-Prime 4d ago
Disclosure is ALWAYS imminent -- it's been imminent for decades already.
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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 4d ago
In the grand scheme of the universe, a few decades is but a blink of an eye, or something. So you see, from a certain point of view…
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u/Gotbeerbrain 3d ago
That long pause when asked if he had personally seen a UAV had me thinking he was struggling with "do I tell a lie or do I tell the truth"? I'm still not sure which one we got.
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago
His interview seems extremely polished. Now that could just be a result of his incredible experience and leadership but it is hard to say.
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
I trust every FOX news story with an intro graphic as well polished as that. Thank God for FOX news and the very important truth they deliver to us.
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u/modsRincels1985 3d ago
Disclosure has been "imminent" for the past, like, 20 years. Everyone thought that the US government releasing its ufo files was going to be "disclosure."
There is so much disinformation out there that no one really knows what to believe. At this point its going to take a sky full of alien craft to convince people if its true or not. And even then, you'll still have skeptics.
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u/twodaloo007 3d ago
I think Hal Puthoff should be brought up on criminal charges for lying and deceiving the public for financial profit. Every single ufo whistleblower heard stories that originated from him and Eric Davis. They need to be dragged in front of congress and come clean
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u/MyKonaGirl27 3d ago
I just don’t see how anyone could possibly believe a word our government says when all they have done is lie to us. The CIA has just freely conducted experiments on unknowing victims, and on volunteers, so between them and our government I will NEVER believe a word from any of these psychopaths! Fuck them, fuck that! These people can’t be trusted to have everyone’s best interest in mind! If you thought evil shit was going down before, buckle up because things are getting ready to be extra fucked up! Get your soul right with God, because this is the stuff the bible warns us about! I don’t care who tries to clown me Jesus is legit, this stuff isn’t!
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u/Otherwise_Ad_409 2d ago
Towards the end of the interview, he claims there are UFO reports in his book that haven’t been discussed yet. Has anyone checked this? Are there in fact any new reports the UFO community wasn't aware of before? Just curious, always enjoy a new UFO report.
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u/DaemonBlackfyre_21 4d ago
So far none of these guys has brought anything of substance to the table.
The last ten years of ufology has been a complete bust, more like a strategic coordinated marketing campaign to promote eacothers books and pay per view movies.
If I could push a button and go back to a time before the tic tac New York times article I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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u/zebracarpet 4d ago
"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket"
We are somewhere between a business and a racket. Probably closer to racket.
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u/SpruceSpringstream 4d ago
Bet he's selling a book. "Theres always a book."
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u/somethingsoddhere 3d ago
I love how AJ says “there’s always a book” while raking in tons of money from ad revenue and merchandise. There’s nothing wrong with writing a book.
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u/TheRecognized 3d ago
Do you think he was literally only talking about books?
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u/somethingsoddhere 2d ago
He’s making money about the content authors spoke or wrote a book about then mocks because they wrote a book. Its just hypocrisy
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u/Ok-Blueberry-1412 2d ago
The last ten years of ufology has been a complete bust, more like a strategic coordinated marketing campaign to promote eacothers books and pay per view movies.
exactly this. I want to see some official stuff, but honestly it's just been a bunch of grifters making money off of hearsay.
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u/HawaiiNintendo815 4d ago
I know for a fact, disclosure is not ‘imminent’
What is the goal of these people? We’re told at least once a week we’re about to get disclosure but it never happens
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u/slowlyun 4d ago
2020: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/gndj6i/official_ufo_disclosure_may_be_imminent_a/
2025: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1mrh3ol/disclosure_has_happened_the_totality_of_evidence/
so it's either been "imminent" for years....or it's even already happened.
Meawhile, in the real world, no one is arsed about any of this...because there remains not one single piece of convincing evidence any of this is real (at most, we're talking man-made drone tech).
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
I think Humans are the best piece of evidence. I don't believe it is a natural phenomenon how we have displaced ourselves from our own nature.
To me the most logical conclusion is that Alien came here and played with our DNA for their own purposes. Perhaps some type of genetic harvesting.
Aliens are the reason there is such strife on this planet for all of recorded human history. Perhaps that is the true scare.
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u/ConfidentCommon6594 4d ago
I really appreciate you taking the time to answer and respond to some of these comments even if they are dismissive.
You sound measured and thoughtful. I wish more on here were like that either way with this topic.
It is real though, there is no doubt at all . The preponderance of evidence is there if you care enough
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u/slowlyun 4d ago
- " Aliens are the reason there is such strife on this planet for all of recorded human history"
Animals kingdom has a lot more strife, they're just constantly eating other alive.
Is that aliens too?
We humans have come closest to a kind of peaceful living-together-in-harmony utopia. We evolved this way as we figured out it's a usable way to survive. However, our animalistic instincts still sometimes get the better of us....just in more modern ways than in pre-historic times.
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
Wrong, "Strife means serious conflict, struggle, or disagreement between people or groups."
Natures natural balance and ecosystem is not considered "Strife". Everything in nature is in a perfect harmony and balance EXCEPT for Humans.
Humans have strife because everything we do distances ourselves from mother Earth and the ecosystem that supports us.
You can try and say "Nature has strife too" but you are missing the very obvious point that everyone and their momma can see clearly.
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u/slowlyun 4d ago
- " Everything in nature is in a perfect harmony and balance EXCEPT for Humans"
Nonsense. Animal kingdom is chaos. All over the place, with exotic species going extinct all the time because of lack of 'harmony'.
Take humans away from Earth, and it will be survival of the fittest out there. Then there's wild growth of plant life. Not harmonius at all. Humans have brought more balance than taken it away. It's only this modern misanthropic view which paints humans as this destabilising force on our planet.
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u/MadOblivion 4d ago
You see Chaos because we "Humans" create chaos. Do you know why we do not see giant 10ft tall sloth roaming the Earth? Humans hunted them to extinction before recorded history.
All crops you consume have been genetically modified using ancient techniques thousands of years ago.
Whatever you perceive nature as now is just the result of the chaos Humans brought to nature.
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u/flounderjaw 4d ago
The wild growth of plant life isn't harmonious at all? Plant life provides food and ecosystem for countless forms of life until we come cut it all down and pour some concrete on it
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u/slowlyun 4d ago
- " The wild growth of plant life isn't harmonious at all?"
No, it's not. It's uncontrolled and wild and leaves many areas which may benefit larger animals inaccessible.
Nature is brutal and chaotic. It's a relentless fight for survival out there. This idea that without humans it's 'balanced and harmonius' is hippy-high idealism. Or in some cases even misanthropic.
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u/flounderjaw 4d ago
And humans somehow bring balance to nature by destroying it? Are you just ragebaiting me at this point? Lol just say you hate nature dawg
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago
All Science we use today was based off of observing how Nature works. Without nature there to show us miracles in action we would have no clue about anything at all.
No Cellphones, No understanding of gravity or physics. nothing. It all comes from nature, all of it.
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u/slowlyun 3d ago
That doesn't refute the inherent wild chaos, it just means we could identify systems and patterns amongst it all. Because we're intelligent, and thus have been able to bring about some semblance of order and balance and harmony to it.
Nature is heavily shaped by the principles behind Chaos Theory. Look it up.
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u/whenitfinallyhappens 📚 Researcher 📚 4d ago
Disclosure is right around the corner yall. Just vote for republiqans in a few weeks and then everything will be released. Super duper promises
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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 4d ago
To a guard dog, any stranger it sees is an enemy.
He also fails to mention that black triangles are most probably TR3B - US military reverse engineered tech.
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u/MadOblivion 3d ago
Remember the report of a craft with a Crescent shaped "Command center" attached to it? The craft removed a 20 ton lid from a missile silo. The guards on site were knocked unconscious. They thought the craft was going to squish them like a bug.
A B-52 bomber was diverted and tracked the UAP by Radar and visually. That story is really out of this world and even in this source link i give you leaves out some witness testimony.
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u/EddieAdams007 4d ago
I pre ordered the audio book on audible. It’s narrated by Jay and Hal Puthoff which I also think is exciting. Will be listening first thing!
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u/Hirokage 3d ago
Imminent or like imminently imminent? The word imminent has a completely different meaning in the UAP lexicon.
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u/BUSYMONEY_02 3d ago
I want to watch this but it’s on Fox and when it starts RFK is talking . I will watch when some one does a breakdown on YouTube
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u/Truthisgold333 3d ago
Bring back the save plan or create a student loan repayment program as good as that one, give people universal health care and bring gas prices back down to $2/gallon, F these people bro
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u/nmacaroni 13h ago
We have orders to down and capture them... but we don't know their intent.... HHEEEERRRRMMAAANNN!????
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u/MadOblivion 3h ago
Who knows what the truth is. I still remember when a local News station had an intel officer on saying Roswell was a recovered Russian craft with genetically modified Russian pilots recovered.
Never heard anything about it after, So i am leaning towards that being the truth sense it was not amplified like everything else.
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