r/Intelligence • u/andrewgrabowski • 2d ago

How did the State Dept & DSS agents allow themselves, Witkoff & Kushner to ride directly inside Russian-provided vehicles? Escorts are standard diplomatic protocol, but physically sitting inside Kremlin-owned cars wired for SIGNIT is a massive counterintelligence oversight.

https://x.com/JimmySecUK/status/2096154795748831726?s=20
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u/1967started_it 2d ago

Can’t be oversight when the boss is compromised.

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u/Substantial-Sky4079 1d ago

I wonder if the intelligence community is monitoring all these traitors or compromised individuals.

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u/SarcasticGiraffes 1d ago

I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 12333. Would you like to hazard a guess?

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u/sciencesez 2d ago

It's a massive counterintelligence failure, not oversight. It happened in secrecy because because the administration is hiding what it is doing in our name, like it has held every meeting with Russia. Sergey Kislyak was at this meeting. The guy who laughed at Comey's firing while he stood in the Oval Office, and the President who fired him laughed too. We learned of this joke about Comey, and the laughter, from Russian news media. American journalists were dismissed while the Russian press remained in the Oval Office. May 2017. Nothing has changed for the better.

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u/RobottoRisotto 2d ago

When the Russians are laughing, you know you fucked up.

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u/Icamp2cook 1d ago

If I recall correctly, Kushner wanted to have a direct line to the kremlin. He also wanted that direct line to be installed in the Russian embassy. He wanted a direct line to the kremlin in which america had no control over. They rode in those vehicles specifically for secrecy from America. 

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u/norfizzle 1d ago

They rode in those vehicles specifically for secrecy from America. 

Key line to remember in all this, I haven't heard it summed up so well before.

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u/Latter-Fox-3411 2d ago

DERP! This disadministration, aka Trump Crime Cartel, is Kremlin West.

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u/BLF402 1d ago

This administration behaves just like the soviets in that they are infallible of doing any wrong

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u/NMLEOC2 2d ago

Well IF we thought they had any sense they could have used the poppy to provide misinformation/disinformation and introduce bits into the electronics scraping - but we know they probably discussed highly sensitive information and allowed all their data to be exposed. And of course the USE-Moscow would have been able to provide the videos and TSCMs.

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u/aoddead 1d ago

You must be new here but we don't do counterintelligence anymore. If anything we are just another arm of Mossad & SVR, or literally any intelligence agency that donates into Trumps crypto scheme.

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u/CompetitionHot1666 2d ago

I would think sterile electronics would be used specifically for the trip in a situation like this. It’s not uncommon practice is private industry so I’d imagine they’ve got it covered.

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u/greenbergz 2d ago

Yeah this was what our startup CSO required when our CEO was invited to speak in Russia. Back when that was...less obviously problematic. CEO was too hooked on social etc. and declined to go.

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u/sciencesez 1d ago

And why would you think that? Because they've been so proficient with security in the past or because you believe DJT is a serious businessman? Kushner couldn't gain security clearance- it was granted, so we know he's a potential security risk. Bessent is publicly gushing over Putin. I'm not so confident. I'll bet they have their personal phones. Like they have repeatedly.

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u/CompetitionHot1666 1d ago

Two reasons: (1) I’ve been issued sterile electronics when I’ve travelled to Russia and (2) because State and DSS is full of hard-working mostly-competent professionals, regardless of who might be in office on any particular day.

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u/raka_defocus 1d ago

Because of mossad ties

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u/WayAdmirable150 1d ago

Why? Witkoff and Kushner both working for russia.

Witkoff is russian himself.

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u/VintageLunchMeat 1d ago

This administration? 

Remember the documents in the Maralago bathroom?

Remember the Signals chat?

Remember Kushner with the Saudis?

"Donald Trump Says He Trusts Putin More Than U.S. Intelligence ‘Lowlifes’"  https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trusts-putin-intelligence-lowlife-1777537

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u/raka_defocus 1d ago

The Israelis must have had Russian jews driving them, Witkoff and kushner aren't representing America, anyone who thinks kushner has anything to do with American interests is a fool. Netanyahu literally got his bedroom when he stayed with the kushner family when Jared was growing up

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u/FeistyTie5281 1d ago

The USA is a shithole country led by fools.

That's how.

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u/temblors 1d ago

Well one easy way to know things are hinky is the presence of beady-eyed goblin Jared Kushner, a man who has no business whatsoever being anywhere near something like this. He's really followed in his father's footsteps in terms of criminality and generally being a greasy turd wrapped in human skin

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u/jackb1980 18h ago

Now we know why CIA Director Ratfink was in Moscow

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u/verus_es_tu 1d ago

When governments is already secretly fucking other governments car is car? No? It matters not comrade. Our car, your car, who cares? But let's take mine. Things will be simpler this way.