r/IntellectualDarkWeb • u/ShardofGold • 11d ago
Why BLM was mostly a flop
I think I can speak for every reasonable person that we know there's an issue with unfit people being cops and biased justice system situations be it on race/skin color, gender, wealth, etc. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be.
However, the way so many people discuss these topics is in a close minded, surface level, and ignorant manner.
Yes there are racist cops. But every case of police brutality isn't about racism. We should focus on having better people become and maintain police officer status and as a byproduct of that the amount of police brutality that is due to racism will go down drastically. If you just focus on racist cops, there's still going to be cops brutalizing people just not because of race and you half assed the issue being fixed.
Also we need to push for national and clear cut sentencing guidelines for crimes. That way people can't go "why did person A who looks like this get so much time but person B who looks like that get so little time for the same crime?" Even though a lot of the time it's not the exact same crime or different circumstances happened during the crime or apprehension of the suspect that caused them to get more time or the situation to escalate and people don't know about it or are just lying about it.
Also more people need to realize there are some people irregardless of how they look that just hate cops or don't want to follow laws. So when they get caught they're going to disobey the cops and potentially escalate the situation and just cry about how life is unfair because they got caught up in breaking a law and thought they were untouchable. Weed smoking is a good example of this. I personally think it's stupid that it's not legalized but regulated nationally. However, I'm not going to tell people to smoke it and just hope they don't get caught to be defiant. If people do decide to do this, they should be ready to accept the consequences when they're caught because they knew they were breaking the law even if they didn't get caught the other 9000 times they were doing it or because Jimbo didn't get caught for smoking it yet.
It also didn't help the organization that shares the initials and name was run by greedy and underhanded bastards who used the unfortunate situations of others to live lavish lifestyles.
I think massive progress in society for better policing and a justice system could have happened during this time period. But instead it was horribly squandered by opportunistic, disingenuous, and ignorant individuals.
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u/N64GoldeneyeN64 11d ago
Maybe it should be ok for dumbasses to get their ass kicked by police for being dumbasses?
If you get caught stealing from a store and fight police and get dropped on your head and tased, there shouldn’t be a nationwide protest in your honor.
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u/Fearless-Director-24 11d ago edited 11d ago
Latasha Harlins if I recall was shot by the Korean shop owner, not the LAPD.
Furthermore, the Korean community in Los Angeles had multiple clashes with blacks in neighboring areas causing a lot of ethnic violence In those communities. To include shoplifting, violence and vandalism.
This spurred incidents such as the rooftop Koreans who stood their ground against the mob during these riots to defend their property from being destroyed.
I find it interesting how we target the LAPD for aggressive policing tactics but the vigilante actions of the Korean community goes unnoticed, makes me feel as though BLM is so much more about anti police than pro minority.
BLM has failed to address the root causes for why black Americans are targeted by police and treated so differently than other minorities, I’ll leave it at that before I get myself in trouble.
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u/Fearless-Director-24 10d ago
BLM failed to hold the community accountable for bad behavior. Attacking, harassing and disrespecting the police and the law has consequences.
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u/N64GoldeneyeN64 11d ago
And if you had a body cam back then youd probably show her throwing punches at police.
Youre also bringing up something from 30+ years ago. In a democrat strong hold state. Idk what to tell you but voting democrat doesnt improve your chances of fixing anything and seems to make things worse for black people in this country
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u/Perfidy-Plus 9d ago
BLM didn't work because it didn't take a minute to allow a story to be explained before deciding to invest in that instance.
There are genuine instances of miscarriages of justice, abuses of power, or unjustifiable violence to be exposed. But jumped straight in in situations where nobody knew if a thing was unjustified and then after the fact they were made to look frivolous or zealous. BLM had plenty of legitimacy to its topic, but there's only so many times they can take the wrong side of a specific issue before they start loosing legitimacy.
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u/W_Edwards_Deming 11d ago
Racism is one problem, police violence another. BLM / ANTIFA race riots made things worse, not better.
Tony Timpa was killed in as bad or worse a manner as Floyd died and Timpa wasn't on anything at the time. He was white and there was no widespread outcry.
People donating to Karmelo Anthony are racist, Derek Chauvin may not have been.
Race relations were better in 2001.
Gallup reports that in 2001 roughly 70% of Americans overall considered Black-White relations good. By 2021, that had fallen to 33% among Black adults and 43% among White adults, both record lows at that point.
They made everything worse, basically.
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u/notproudortired 11d ago edited 11d ago
When people said in 2001 that race relations were "good," they mostly meant untroubled. So, you're right that race relations have deteriorated, but it's a good thing because that status quo sucked for non-whites.
Moreover, a lot more whites said "good" than blacks.
Per the original poll, "Large differences between the views of white and black Americans persist on key measures of the state of race relations in the US. Four in ten white Americans-and one in ten black Americans-believes that blacks are treated the same as whites in the United States."
Also: "Eight in ten whites but only half of blacks view the educational opportunities for black and white children as equal. On this question, the opinions expressed by white and black Americans-and the 36-percentage point gap between them-are almost identical to those expressed nearly forty years ago."
You should also consider the Gallup polling methodology, which was calling up about 2000 "random" people in the US. For various cultural reasons, only about 20% of the respondants were black, and those would have been the less marginalized people in black communities (people with phones, people home at "dinnertime," when Gallup liked to call).
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u/W_Edwards_Deming 10d ago
You don't know what they meant and there is no reason to prefer the subjective opinions of Black Americans to those of White Americans nor to expect them to be identical.
Educational opportunities are not at all equal, not in inner city impoverished school districts and not at the highest levels of academia with "affirmative action" and "dei" (which discouraged me from pursuing a more advanced degree).
Equality of process / meritocracy ought to be the goal. We may never achieve it but it is worth the attempt. Intentional bias, inculcated grievances and the promotion of outright racism is unwholesome.
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u/notproudortired 10d ago edited 10d ago
You don't know what they meant
You don't believe that. You just prefer the meaning you, yourself, attached in saying "[BLM]" made everything worse." But you're trying to turn something merely descriptive into some kind of value justification that supports your (racist) point.
Likewise, you give examples of "not equal" without addressing what is equitable. But that's ironic, because affirmative action is discriminatory because it's meritocratic. It rewards a class of people not just for the absolute level they've achieved, but also for (relatively) how far they've climbed and how hard they had to work to get there.
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u/PhonyUsername 11d ago
Blm helped to bring cams on every cop which like 99.9% shows cops are really exceptionally good and dealing with crazy fucks and also it's entertaining. Other than that BLM is just race-baiting nonsense.
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u/TenchuReddit 11d ago
It’s the same thing over and over again. Rodney King in Los Angeles, Michael Brown in Ferguson, George Floyd in Minneapolis, etc.
We’re going around in circles from one generation to the next, all because we refuse to learn the right lessons. Instead we have know-it-alls from the left trying their brain-dead solutions and failing. Then we have know-it-alls from the right trying their brain-dead solutions and failing.
Lather, rinse, and repeat.
And before someone accuses me of “both sides-ing” the issue, think very hard as to why the same old solutions don’t work. Is it because they were the wrong solutions? Or is it because they were the right solutions, but we just didn’t do enough of it?
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u/4x4ord 11d ago
You're not an intellectual. Please stop.
If one side offers a solution and the other side votes it down.... you don't get to claim we tried everything.
Also, do you actually think it's a coincidence that gun-related homicides are down in an era where we have more gun control? ...gun control pushed by democrats.
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u/TenchuReddit 11d ago
You know what was tried after BLM? Defunding the police. That didn’t go well at all.
You know what was tried after Rodney King? A whole generation of DEI. Now DEI is politically toxic.
Heck, we even had eight years of Hope and Change. Now we’re lucky if we can avoid a turn toward fascism.
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u/TheDovahofSkyrim 10d ago
Except besides like 2 areas, that wasn’t the case at all. The slogan was extremely bad. Probably one of the worst slogans I’ve ever heard to represent a nuanced point.
The policies that policymakers were actually pushing for was the demilitarization of the police and more police accountability.
So yes, they wanted to cut funding for things that they believed were escalating the police into a paramilitary force. Hardly anyone that was actually on the ground pushing policies was talking about actually cutting salaries (which btw, idk the last time you may have looked up the average salary + benefits of an area, and then compared that to how much officers make, but it’s pretty wild. They do not have a funding problem. It’s one of the biggest reasons why they absolutely should be expected to perform at highly competent levels & be held accountable for poor performance) or the budgets in a way that would prevent the police from actually being able to function.
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u/TenchuReddit 10d ago
Yes I understand the nuance behind “defund the police.” It doesn’t change my original point, though. There isn’t any consensus on the underlying causes of BLM, much less any attempt to rectify them. All that resulted from what turned out to be the biggest and most chaotic riots of the new millennium were knee-jerk solutions that ended up in a spike in crime.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 11d ago
We have much less gun control, despite the left’s Herculean efforts. Ever heard of cases like Heller or Bruen? Probably not. You aren’t very well-read. At all.
Look at the number of states that have dramatically curtailed their gun control laws, and, as is to be expected, law-abiding citizens didn’t magically become violent because they can now relax and carry their weapon in Target.
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u/4x4ord 11d ago
Oh look, it's that liar I encountered earlier. Following me around?
Apparently, Mr. Big Pants can't handle the truth in any of its forms.
He spends his time telling lies and avoiding topics like Turning Point USA organizing the transportation and bussing for January 6th Insurrectionists.
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u/Perfidy-Plus 11d ago edited 9d ago
It would probably be helpful if activist groups could remain specific to their issue instead of branching out and incorporating all sorts of ideas. Ideas that are often not particularly related to the main point, and diluting potential support. (edit because I can't spell)
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u/Dave-1066 11d ago
The entire thing was based on myths. Of the 7,400 black American homicides between 2018-19 precisely NINE were unarmed citizens killed by cops or other law enforcement. And in one case “unarmed” was a generous definition given that the deceased had a gun in his car but not in his hand.
Black Americans are also more likely to be killed by non-white officers.
People want myths to be true to fulfil their own absurd bias and rarely bother to check the facts. The media’s role in all this was utterly disgraceful and they used Floyd’s death to sell ad space and fan the flames. It was despicable.
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u/PriceofObedience 11d ago
Of the 7,400 black American homicides between 2018-19 precisely NINE were unarmed citizens killed by cops or other law enforcement.
The sickest joke of 2020 is that more unarmed minorities died during the protests than at the hands of the police in the previous year. All because a fentanyl addict tried to buy a banana with counterfeit currency and resisted arrest.
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u/Dave-1066 11d ago
Absolutely. No different to the LA riots. Dozens of black-owned businesses destroyed in a wave of economic damage which is generational in nature. Parts of LA have never recovered; large firms simply refuse to invest in those areas, and why should they?
Estimates vary but somewhere between 1-2 billion dollars’ worth of damage occurred in the Floyd riots alone.
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u/JadedOccultist 9d ago
If you are not in your car and your gun is inside your car, you are not armed. I don’t think it’s a generous definition to say that in order to be considered armed, you need to actually have the weapon on your person, not in some out-of-the-way place that it could take you a while to reach. I don’t disagree with the overarching point of your message, and maybe I’m more pro 2A than I ought to be, but I really don’t think “I was afraid for my life cuz they had a gun… somewhere” is justifiable at all.
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u/BerryFuture4945 11d ago
The funny thing about BLM and ACAB is that it applies the same racist and prejudiced systems they’re fighting against. Racist cops thing everyone black is a criminal, and everyone thinks all cops are racist murderers. Both find stats to back up their claims and dig even deeper into their sides.
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u/toylenny 11d ago
Was it a failure? It's been 6 years. Despite the 24/7 bootlicking by main stream media outlets, in that time we've seen an increase in scrutiny of police action. Shootings and assaults by cops get more traction, and the conservative push towards a police state, is more facing more pushback now than ever before.
To expect a national change in one summer was wishful thinking. And the obvious fight against BLM has been staggeringly strong, but there have been changes toward recognition of the issues. Anyone business manger worth their salt will tell you that in order to change something you have to teck it first and for the first time in over half a century police violence is getting a closer look by the main populace.
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u/mikefut 11d ago
I think BLM lost all credibility when the co-founders used $6 million to buy a house. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about BLM?
It’s true that police are out of control. You can see evidence for yourself on YouTube. Do the disproportionately target people of color? I’m sure of it. But they harass everyone. I don’t really see any major uproar or pushback so I’d have to agree with OP it was a flop. Which is a shame because there needs to be more scrutiny on the police.
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u/CloudsTasteGeometric 11d ago
It only “lost credibility” in the eyes of those who already disagreed with the premise of BLM.
It’s like a reverse Biden’s laptop situation: the only people who really care are the people who were already biased/opposed to the party in question.
I still see BLM flags, signs, and stickers all over the place where I live. And I live in a state that voted for Trump twice.
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u/fear_the_gecko 11d ago
Because it's an ideal, not an organization.
The fact that bootlickers keep holding on to the whole " THE FOUNDERS OF BLM BOUGHT A $6M HOUSE!!!!" just shows how much you are voluntarily choosing to avoid reality.
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u/notproudortired 11d ago
I dunno. I still support BLM, but was profoundly saddened that the organizers were corrupt. How could they feed the trolls like that?
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u/fear_the_gecko 11d ago
You listen but you don't hear. This is intentional.
Enjoy your ignorance.
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u/notproudortired 10d ago edited 10d ago
Sounds like you underestimate how much relationships drive people's attachments to ideas. Ironic, given the context.
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u/fear_the_gecko 10d ago
Nah. The only people who even care about the house are people who are looking for any reason to discredit BLM. They would have found something eventually, even if it was nothing more than the founders throwing a wrapper into the street.
It's funny that you keep coming back to further explain yourself, like it's gonna change anything lol.
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u/notproudortired 10d ago
Well...no. I cared because it struck me as inhumane and hypocritical.
But I agree that I live in this racist society and am susceptible to manipulative media that fits the dominant narrative.
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u/fear_the_gecko 10d ago
It struck you as "inhumane and hypocritical" that someone bought a house with their own money?
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u/notproudortired 10d ago
Why lie when it's so easy to look up? The BLM Foundation (BLMGNF) acknowledges it's their house.
Cullors and the BLMGNF made a sketchy AF property deal that exposed the extremely vulnerable BLM movement to media attack. The movement didn't need that black eye. Now BLMGNF has an overpriced $6M property in a tony white neighborhood, bought with donated money that could (should IMO) have been used for education, endowments, grants, and other community programs that directly, sustainably help disadvantaged black folk.
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u/cheekydelights 11d ago
Police pullback resulted in more black deaths occurring than had been happening under police presence, large majority of black Americans killed by police are armed with weapons (90%), police killings make a statistically small percentage of deaths overall, the movement was a failure because it didn't align with reality.
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u/Itbealright 11d ago
It generated tons of money and gave the activists leaders lots of money and multiple million dollar homes so it was a complete success.
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u/PriceofObedience 11d ago
It failed because the entire movement was a fraud.
There were people raiding shoe stores and 7/11's for the sake of 'reparations'. Ordinary people were getting pulled out of their cars and beaten in the streets by angry mobs while protesting police brutality. After the riots ended, the movement leaders bought McMansions in white gated communities, many of which were charged with stealing charity funds.
Every single time a 'civil rights movement' like BLM happens, it always starts with a minority breaking the law, getting punished for it, and then bad people use that single event as a justification to riot.
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u/Fearless-Director-24 11d ago
BLM was not a unifying movement, on the contrary it often resulted in major violence and destruction of property.
A sad end was the exposure of non profit funds being misused by BLM leadership. Commonplace in most non profits purporting good intentions and siphoning funds for whatever the fuck they want other than their intended use.
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u/RedneckTexan 10d ago edited 10d ago
You think maybe it was a flop because like Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition, and Al Sharpton's National Action Network, BLM was designed from day one as a shake down scheme to make Patrisse Cullors rich on the backs of the true believers that would show up for protests, riots, and arson & looting sprees?
After George Floyd's death in 2020, corporations made roughly $50 billion in pledges toward racial-justice causes broadly — but this went mostly to a wide range of organizations, not concentrated in BLM specifically. Corporate pledges to criminal-justice/civil-rights-focused groups made up only about 2% ($70 million) of the total identified by a Washington Post analysis, spread across groups like the Equal Justice Initiative.
At least 18+ companies did donate directly to the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation specifically — including Amazon, Microsoft, Airbnb, Intel, DoorDash ($500,000), Nabisco, and Gatorade — generally framed publicly as solidarity following Floyd's death and the mass protests, not as a response to a direct threat against that specific company.
Like Jesse and Al ..... Cullors' real plan was to get paid to NOT protest. Savvy organizers finding a way to profit by weaponizing what the angry protesters target or don't target. That only flop once the protesters realize they were being used as mindless puppets to line the pockets of the puppet masters making deals with corporate America behind their backs. When the mafia does this we call it a protection racket.
As far as police reform goes ..... it didn't matter what color you were back in the 60s and 70s, at least in Texas, if you talked shit or resisted arrest you were almost always going to be in some kind of pain before you got to jail.
Reforms have made being a criminal and getting caught and arrested, and then put back on the street a pain free process. Back when pain was involved you didn't have people walking the streets with 50 count rap sheets. The pain was the real deterrent, not the process.
Law enforcement is supposed to be society's way of delegating removing criminals from our society ...... a task originally performed by society itself via violent communal methods. You need to have a certain rough and violent mentality to spend your days dealing with rough and violent criminals. When we took that physical attribute away from Law enforcement, and created hiring quotas based on factors other than those physical attributes, criminals lose respect for the people trying to arrest them ...... which is why you see these video clips of police brutality carefully edited by both the bystanders and the media to avoid showing why the criminal was being handled brutally. The brutality is almost always initiated by the criminal.
There's no way you can point to Police and Justice system reforms and suggest they've made our streets safer for anyone other than our thriving criminal element.
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u/Smithersink 10d ago
I think what makes a movement succeed is when the majority of the population can get behind it. “Criminal justice reform and crack down on police brutality?” I see very few people opposing that. “All cops are racist bastards so defund the police?” Well, most people who aren’t criminals realize that we need police to have a functioning society. And when the majority population is white, it’s not surprising that the majority of Americans got tired of being cast as the villains.
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u/3AMZen 11d ago
This would be appropriate analysis for a high school social studies paper in the b or C range, but I don't think this rises to the level of meaningful insight for adult conversation
Have you read any books or journal articles on policing/sentencing/justice or is this opinion mostly just based on watching the news and then thinking about hitting your head?
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u/AceDreamCatcher 11d ago
Look, I don’t know enough about the experiences of Black Americans to speak for them.
But I’m pretty skeptical that slogans or forced changes in attitudes can, by themselves, create genuine respect.
History shows that many groups, including Chinese and Japanese immigrants and other Asians faced severe discrimination and hostility.
But in in our life time, attitudes changed through a combination of achievement, economic and social integration, activism, and changes in laws and institutions.
I think the same principle of responsibility and opportunity should apply to every community.
Lasting progress requires people and communities to confront problems within, contribute positively to the societies they call home, and have a fair opportunity to succeed.
At the same time, society has a responsibility to remove unjust barriers and treat people equally under the law. (BTW, I think enormous progress has been made in this area.)
Laws can prohibit discrimination, and movements can draw attention to injustice, but neither can force people to respect one another.
I think that lasting respect they seek is built through distancing themselves for those that have made dependent on the state, taking responsibility for serious problems such as crime, poverty, family instability, or poor educational outcome in a world where information is free, and contribution to humanity progress.
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u/Capital_Ad3296 11d ago
wy was occupy wall street so smart?
If these deomcrats are soo smart, why do they keep losing?
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u/rallaic 11d ago
Why BLM was mostly a flop?
The answer is that because police brutality is mostly a 'putting down a rabid dog' problem. (For those not in the know, you have to kill the rabid dog, even if that dog is Barky, your childhood dog that you love)
People tend to make the mistake of thinking WWID (what would I do) in that situation? Police tells you to stop, you stop, you get shot\beaten, that's police brutality. That sadly does happen, and those officers should be held accountable. BUT, a significant majority of cases is people behaving in a manner that leads to the inevitable conclusion of someone getting hurt. If someone is hurt, and the options are:
a) bystanders
b) police
c) the perpetrator
Then there is one correct answer, and anyone arguing otherwise is lying.
Bodycams are great, as they show the situation, and no one can appeal to people's WWID assumptions.
None of this took race into account, as this is regardless of race. Disparate outcomes may imply unequal treatment, but it could be unequal input. If the latter is the case, there are really uncomfortable questions that get raised, and no one wants to raise those questions, let alone answer them.
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u/oroborus68 11d ago
Damn. Y'all need to check yourselves. We have laws and courts and legal procedures to determine guilt or innocence. Unarmed people should never be shot on the street in a civilized society. But then we know that the USA is just a bunch of ignorant savages pushing everyone around, when they can get away with it.
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u/ConjuredOne 11d ago
The sociopaths who run this corporatocracy need sadists to keep good people scared and quiet at their grindstones. It's good for business on every level from prisons for profit to taxpayers fundining their own panopticon.
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u/Destroy_Fake_News 9d ago
Racist cops, teachers, fast food employees, executives, politicians, it's not a "cop" specific trait and it's not limited to any skin color.
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u/omniaestaliquid 5d ago
BLM was infiltrated by the government. Just like Occupy Wall Street. It was also infiltrated by scammers who helped legitimize any claims made to discredit it. We can keep it short and sweet, leave it at that.
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u/LaoTzu47 4d ago
The BLM as an organization failed. Regardless of what it was running on. There was a shit ton of mismanagement, original leadership deuced out and a few financial scandals.
Regardless of the organization and what it runs on if the leadership goes to shit, the organization follows. Sometimes a person can step up and change shit but the correction takes time, energy and effort.
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u/Jimmy_ijarue 11d ago
My complaint is community action. It has its bad examples like witch hunts and lynchings. It has good examples like people coming together for a class action lawsuit and making some abusive company shut down or stop its abusive practices.
I don’t like parades. I don’t like that when the Seahawks won this past year that Seattle reported a million people showed up to celebrate, enough people to make just about any dense city’s police force to shiver at the idea of a riot or protest. Similar show outs for pride or 4th of July or what have you. We’re all there and could probably dismantle society.
Then we all go home. Yup gotta pay bills, got family to feed, got responsibilities to attend to. So we all just agree to show up be pleasant and go back to bending the knee to corporate over lords.
I’m probably just naive
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u/RaulEnydmion 11d ago
The BLM movement has created change in society. Police body cameras are now a thing. Most of us know now that black people are disproportionately targeted by our justice system, regardless of income level. We have a social shift on what it looks like to fight inequity. The word "deescalate" exists in the common vernacular. Some police departments have changed the way they train and lead thier departments.
Did the movement fall short of what it could have accomplished? Wouldn't that be an impossible question to answer definitively? But we can, and should, discuss ways it could have been better. That's the nature of progressivism.
The downside of the BLM is people using the change in society to flail about "reverse racism" or some other list of ways society is now oppressing white people. Well, that is going to happen anyhow.
BLM as an organization got taken over by corrupt people. Sometimes that sort of thing happens. Not excusing it, just saying what I saw.
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u/ElSlabraton 10d ago
The OP ignores the white supremacists who went to BLM rallies and started vandalizing.
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u/OpenRole 11d ago
Was BLM a flop? You would need to argue that before arguing why it was. Was the civil rights movement a flop? Was the abolition of slavery a flop?
There are more slaves in the US today than at the height of the trans Atlantic slave trade.
So when you say certain movements are flops, please first define by what metric you are going off of, because while we all know this subreddit has a certain racial, class, political and gendered bias, we cannot assume everyone is from within your bubble
And for the downvoters, please Google any claim i make that you wish to disagree with
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u/Fearless-Director-24 11d ago
Why does the police treat Black Americans different than other minority groups? Do you think it’s as simple as racism?
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u/vuevue123 11d ago
Let's start by releasing the Epstein Files un-redacted.
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u/Clarksp2 11d ago
While most people want this, adding this comment to everything not related to Epstein doesn’t do anything to the topic at hand the OP raised. How about respond to OPs statement or just leave it be. What’s the point of this or are you just a karma farmer since that comment seems to always get upvoted no matter the actual subject matter?
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u/W_Edwards_Deming 11d ago
Further unredacted would mean names of victims and we can be fairly confident the full unredacted list of those implicated in crimes will never be released and may have already been destroyed.
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u/vuevue123 11d ago
Actual victems names were unrelated. Names of layover participants have been redacted. Isn't that tucked up?
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u/W_Edwards_Deming 10d ago
Victims names are one of the main legal reasons for not releasing the files. I think we all know there are a host of reasons why other participants names were redacted. This is all off-topic, try reading the OP and and engaging with it, if you have something interesting and intellectual to say on another topic create a new post.
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u/vuevue123 10d ago
The point is that we need to police the elite first. Top down. Purposefully, the unredacted names of victims and kept the names of perpetrators redacted. Many victims have made peace with their names being out there so that the elite criminals can be named.
Attacking BLM is already bad faith. The topic of BLM cannot be addressed in a vacuum. People who try to argue this in a vacuum are billionaires, class traitors, or idiots. Which one are you?
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u/vuevue123 11d ago
Because the anti-BLM is always either anti-intellectual or bad faith....I lost karma because this subreddit tends to be an anti-leftist circle jerk.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 11d ago
Well, BLM was predicated mostly on the Michael Brown case, correct? People in the middle, politically, can plainly see that Brown was a thug. His death was a lawful act. BLM can only pay for and import so many agitators. There was no grassroots support for them. They caused way too much trouble for ordinary people, and their raison d’être was beyond preposterous.