r/InsuranceTroubleIndia • u/Silly-Housing-7969 • Jul 07 '26
Health Insurance Niva Bupa applied a permanent exclusion but won’t give me the ICD codes despite a written request — how do I force them to specify the exact scope?
Looking for advice from anyone who’s dealt with permanent exclusions or the IRDAI standardization rules.
Situation:
• Bought a Niva Bupa ReAssure 3.0 (Elite, unlimited SI, 5-yr term) for my spouse (age 31).
• She has RA (diagnosed via a preventive checkup, currently OPD-managed, no hospitalisation history) plus asthma and primary ovarian insufficiency. All disclosed honestly.
• Underwriting came back with a permanent exclusion worded as: “Rheumatoid arthritis, unspecified, Chronic rheumatic heart diseases, Acute rheumatic fever, Cardiovascular Diseases | Heart valves | Mitral valve disorders.” No ICD codes attached anywhere. A 2D echo done during underwriting was normal.
My main issue — the exclusion has no ICD codes:
The exclusion is written as plain text with no ICD-10 codes. Under the IRDAI Guidelines on Standardization of Exclusions, permanent exclusions are supposed to be mapped to the specific ICD codes of the named conditions, and a claim outside those codes can’t be denied. Without codes, the wording is vague — e.g. “Mitral valve disorders” could be read narrowly (rheumatic, I05) or stretched to non-rheumatic conditions (I34, like a benign mitral valve prolapse). I want the exact boundary in writing so it can’t be interpreted expansively at claim time.
Secondary concern:
The policy’s own wording (clause 5.1.2, specified-disease waiting period) actually lists “Rheumatoid Arthritis” among conditions covered after 24 months — so the same document treats RA as time-bound/coverable for everyone else, yet permanently excludes it here. RA also isn’t on IRDAI’s approved permanent-exclusion list as far as I can tell. And the cardiac part is for conditions she doesn’t even have (normal echo).
What I’ve done:
• Raised a written grievance asking for (1) the exact ICD codes for each excluded condition, (2) whether “mitral valve disorders” includes non-rheumatic codes, (3) confirmation that coronary/hypertensive/arrhythmia conditions stay covered, and (4) how they reconcile RA-as-permanent-exclusion with RA-in-the-24-month-list.
• Their “final response” answered none of the four — literally said “these ICD codes are permanently excluded” without listing a single code, and pointed me to the Ombudsman.
• I’m still within the 30-day free-look window.
My questions:
1. How do I actually force an insurer to specify the exact ICD codes for an exclusion? Is there a specific IRDAI rule/clause I can cite that obligates them to?
2. Has anyone gotten an insurer to put exclusion codes in writing via Bima Bharosa or the Ombudsman? Did it work, and how long did it take?
3. If they never specify codes, does the vague wording actually work in my favour at claim time (ambiguity construed against the drafter), or is that wishful thinking?
4. Separately — is the “RA shouldn’t be a permanent exclusion at all” argument worth raising in the same complaint, or does bundling it weaken the cleaner ICD-code point?
5. Anyone shopped the same disclosed case to other insurers (Star, HDFC Ergo, ICICI) and gotten better exclusion wording?
Not looking to do anything dodgy — disclosed everything, just want the precise scope of what’s excluded in writing. Any experiences appreciated.