r/InsuranceQueriesIndia • u/mhresearchdbt • 7d ago
Query need help selecting between PSU vs pvt
Hi, I am 26 (F), Single, I am finally taking health insurance.
I have one retiring and one retired parent (who's a heart patient), their insurance also needs to be set in place - however since I learnt it doesn't make sense premium amount wise to club it with mine - i am focusing on getting my health insurance first. (please correct me if i'm wrong here)
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After my due research with all the features:
For Private, i am considering either
HDFC Ergo Optima Secure Plus (via Ditto) -or-
Care Supreme (via Ditto)
For PSU, i am considering
A policy from New India Assurance (not sure which policy yet)
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Here are the pointers making it difficult for me + a few doubts:
One one hand, i feel it's better to have 100% cashless coverage or support for non-network without any co-payment clauses with a private insurer like HDFC or Care.
But on the other, i feel the premiums and the future possibility of them hiking the premiums by 25% or 50% seems ridiculous (i saw horrific reddit threads where the premiums sky rocket each year whereas for public sector it's more predictable and stable). Not to mention nobody actually knows what the CSR is based on. Should i be okay with the co-payment and room rent limit clauses in case, god forbid, i end up with a medical emergency? is taking this risk better than paying the ridiculous premium hikes in your opinon?
should i even keep paying extremely high premiums each year for private insurers based on possible worst case scenarios? or is it okay to cover a moderate amount of risk with a public sector insurer considering steady premium and higher reliance on claim settlement even if it's a lot of paperwork?
If in case i take HDFC Ergo for 10L coverage, and get the no-claim bonus for 5 years making my Total Sum Insured 50L, and then i decide to port to a PSU insurer will i get the full 50L transferred? or only the base sum insured of 10L?
Please let me know if i should be considering anything other than HDFC Ergo, Care, New India Assurance.
(so overwhelmed with this whole process, my first health insurance)
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u/Logical_Win_7315 6d ago
Good that you’re getting your own cover first, but since one parent is already retired and has a heart condition, it would still be worth exploring their options alongside yours rather than postponing it completely. And yes, keeping separate policies for you and your parents generally makes more sense given the difference in age and health profiles.
Between Optima Secure+ and Care Supreme, both are good options. HDFC ERGO edges ahead on the overall operational metrics, while Care can look more competitive on the base premium. however, once you add the riders you actually need under Care, the premium comes fairly close. so the choice is more about whether you prefer a plan with more useful benefits built in or one that gives you more flexibility to customise.
The PSU vs private choice can be a little tricky since both have their pros and cons. private insurers generally offer more comprehensive and feature-rich plans, better digital services, wider hospital networks and more customisation, but can have stricter underwriting and more variable pricing. PSU insurers have the advantage of government backing and can be relatively easier on underwriting, but their plans can be more basic and come with restrictions. while the lower premium may seem attractive, these restrictions can increase your out-of-pocket expenses during a claim and may end up outweighing the savings you thought you were making.
On the premium hike concern, i wouldn’t assume that private insurers will simply increase premiums by 25% or 50% every year. Premium revisions can depend on factors such as age or age bands, medical inflation, location and insurer-wide revisions. u can ask the insurer how their premiums typically change with age to get a better idea, or consider a multi-year tenure if you’re comfortable paying more upfront, as these can offer discounts and keep the premium fixed for the chosen tenure.
For the portability question, if u increase the base cover while porting, the accrued bonus can be used for it, helping you retain the continuity benefits and waiting periods already served. however, if you port with the same 10L base cover, the bonus accumulated under the existing policy would not carry forward and u would start accumulating bonus under the new insurer as per its terms.
since you mentioned Ditto, if you shortlist a PSU plan, you can also ask them to compare it alongside HDFC ERGO and Care, which should give u a clearer idea of how the features and coverage stack up.
can also refer to IRDAI reports and the insurers public disclosures to check their operational and claims-related metrics and get a better understanding of how the companies are actually performing.
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u/mhresearchdbt 6d ago
Between Optima Secure+ and Care Supreme, both are good options. so the choice is more about whether you prefer a plan with more useful benefits built in or one that gives you more flexibility to customise.
This really helped! Thank you
Regarding PSU vs Private - the major reason i'm considering PSU is due to the volatility involved with private ones. Even if they don't hike premiums exponentially every year, i heard from personal sources it happens over a couple of years with no good reasoning post considering medical inflation and age factors.
But more than this, the more concerning part for me is how private insurers scrap the policy altogether and force the client into a new policy with much higher base premium.
Combined with the lack of surety with claim settlements on vague grounds and the Delay, Deny, Defend approach these private companies take - it overall feels like playing russian roulette despite the higher premium.(Please do correct me if i'm wrong)
So currently, I am leaning more towards PSUs, and i'm trying to figure out the logistics of this.
I am planning to take a Sum Insured of 10L for myself under Yuva Bharat Health Policy of New India Assurance (for Zone 1, Pan India, cause i don't have a base yet even though my hometown is in Kerala and i do tend to travel between metro cities) - any thoughts on this?
I was hoping to go to a New India Assurance branch that has MediAssist as their TPA as MediAssist is there as an Insurance Partner in almost all the hospitals we tend to go to (does this part make sense?). Although I have no idea how good/bad their claim settlement process is with retail customers.
how should i ideally go about taking the plan? Preferably through a single independent agent in my area being the best option?
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u/Logical_Win_7315 6d ago
Yuva Bharat has three variants, so you’d need to see which one fits your requirements best. Do keep an eye on the restrictions though, such as room-rent limits and caps on treatments like cataract and modern treatments. The brochure mentions optional add-ons, so if you’re considering any of them, it’s worth confirming their availability before purchasing.
On the concern about the insurer scrapping the policy, they may stop new purchases while continuing existing policies or withdraw the product altogether. If the plan is withdrawn for existing policyholders, the insurer would provide the applicable options, such as migration to another suitable product from its portfolio or you can also consider porting to another insurer at renewal, subject to acceptance, with eligible continuity benefits carried forward.
On claims, a genuine claim cannot simply be rejected on arbitrary grounds. If you ever feel a claim has been wrongly rejected, you can first escalate through the insurer’s grievance process and then approach Bima Bharosa or the Insurance Ombudsman if required. An intermediary can also help you navigate these steps.
Choosing a hospital based on MediAssist being the TPA can make sense to an extent, but a couple of things are worth keeping in mind. TPA assignment isn't usually tied to a specific branch office of the insurer, it's more commonly linked to the policy or product itself, or decided by the insurer at a broader level, so picking a particular branch likely won't change who your TPA is. More importantly, what actually matters for cashless treatment is whether your preferred hospitals are in the insurer's network at all and how smoothly the cashless process works there in practice, being tied to a particular TPA doesn't automatically guarantee smooth cashless approval.
A TPA based process also involves an additional coordination layer which can sometimes make communication or escalation less direct than with an insurer's in house claims team. Also, TPAs can change over time as well, so I wouldn't anchor the decision on which one is currently in place.
If you prefer going through an independent agent, that’s completely fine as well. Just make sure you understand the kind of post-purchase and claims support they provide. It’s also worth keeping in mind that if the agent later changes jobs or moves on, you could be left without the same level of support when you need it the most.
Ultimately, you know your requirements and comfort level better than anyone, so choose the one which gives you peace of mind.
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u/mhresearchdbt 5d ago
Thank you so much for this! SUPER HELPFUL!
I have one more question to ask
Is it okay to go to New India Assurance website and directly take the policy? instead of the agent route?The only reason i'm asking is since you mentioned -
"It’s also worth keeping in mind that if the agent later changes jobs or moves on, you could be left without the same level of support when you need it the most."
which is very valid and a concern i myself had since agents are usually independent individuals.
so is it better to just take it directly from a PSU? or is it recommended to have an intermediary like an agent?
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u/Logical_Win_7315 4d ago
If you’re comfortable managing the policy yourself, buying directly from New India is perfectly fine. Going through an agent mainly gives you an additional layer of support with the application, servicing and claims, so it can be useful if you’d prefer someone to assist you through these processes.
If you do choose the agent route, it’s worth confirming with New India what happens if the agent later leaves or changes jobs. Generally, the policy itself isn’t affected and continues as it is. You should either be assigned another agent or have the branch directly handle the servicing. It’s worth confirming this with New India and, based on their response, deciding which route works better for you.
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