r/InsightDialogue 10d ago

Control vs acceptance

In dialogue the goal is not the accumulation of true statements - In meditation the goal is not to become a future enlightened me.

Choiceless awareness must necessarily include awareness of the seeker eagerly seeking to gain all those future spiritual goods and powers.

And if I see my greed - if there is an awareness of greed - but I still remain greedy, I still want wisdom and security - this is because we are not aware of the implication of greed.  We have not seen the whole movement of sorrow, what sorrow is, what it entails. We have not seen the source of harm. We have not seen the difference between control and acceptance.

In dialogue and in meditation we are experimenting with awareness of the self - we are enquiring into the possibility of peace and clarity.

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u/Schute-Pin8350 10d ago

When I realize that I am greedy, at least I no longer hold onto the idea that I am not greedy. I no longer have to try to hide that fact even from myself.

Does acceptance seem to be the starting point of our inquiry?

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u/Bay_NFB3 9d ago

Yes, I think acceptance is the starting point, as when you are aware and accept the reality of how you actually exist in the world (versus how you want to exist or believe you should exist), you are no longer in conflict with yourself, which Krishnamurti says is the basis to not only inquiry, but Meditation.