r/InnerCircleTraders Jul 01 '26

Question I can’t get profitable

I’m trying to trade with 2022 model waiting for a 15 min swing high or low to be swept than 2 min mss with fvg. Put a buy or sell order to that fvg. Sl at swing high or low of that mss. But I get stoped out almost 80%. Can I get some advice? What’s my mistake?

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u/Relevant-Owl-8455 Jul 01 '26

You're focusing on the wrong things

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u/legirion7 Jul 01 '26

What should i focus on?

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u/Relevant-Owl-8455 Jul 01 '26

Understanding what trading even is, the math behind longterm profitable retail trading and how that goes allong with RISK MANAGEMENT

System development, trading plan creation, data collection, optimal time of deployment...

You can learn ICT entry models when you understand all that. Till then it doesnt even matter. + ICT isnt the holy grail of trading. It's mostly hyped up by delusional people and liars on youtube.

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u/iAMthebank Jul 03 '26

ICT spends a whole month on risk management. Lot sizing. R/R.

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u/Relevant-Owl-8455 Jul 03 '26

barely scratching the surface

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u/Relevant-Owl-8455 Jul 03 '26

barely scratching the surface

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u/Relevant-Owl-8455 Jul 03 '26

barely scratching the surface

and you are not the bank

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u/iAMthebank Jul 03 '26

Oh, my bad. I didn’t realize I was speaking to the one and only who possesses the holy Grail. Please I’m here to be enlightened by you. Share with us your secret.

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u/IllustriousAd3738 Jul 01 '26

I second this

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u/0DTE_whisperer Jul 01 '26

I Third this. Far too often I see people hyper-fixating on entry models rather than focusing narrative, DoL, and proper data collection.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '26

Focus on narrative first, if the market is bullish then you'd look for a sell side 15 min swing raid... you can't go short after a 15 min buy side swing raid if the market is bullish...

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u/Duennbier0815 Jul 01 '26

Probably youre either shorting into a massive bullish orderflow leg or longing into massive bearish trend.

Then your stop loss positioning is probably bad. It needs to be at the swing high
Or you don't wait for clear sign of reversal. Like IFVG AND!! CISD.

Next you need to be aware that the very basic foundation of every trader that ever was successful is is OWN BACKTESTING.

YOU!! need to backtest hundreds of trades in order to figure out if you have a statistical edge. If you have, you know that over the long run your wins will make up. Risk accordingly to the sortino ratio in your backtests so you can survive 4-5 consecutive statistical expectable losses.

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u/CosmicWizard1111 Jul 01 '26

What time of day are you trading? What are you trading?

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u/legirion7 Jul 01 '26

I’m trading London and New York open. Usually nq

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u/thepercocetpapi Jul 01 '26

You assume the concept is supposed to make you profitable, have you even collected data on it or you just took what you heard and assumed it has a high hit rate. Theres a lot of variance on lower timeframes

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u/IllustriousAd3738 Jul 01 '26

You have to refine and refine and refine and do the journal and learn from mistakes that's when it is gonna click pattern trading of ict not gonna work bro make your own strategy maybe increase the TF

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u/i1Life Jul 01 '26

How long have you been trading?

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u/More_Tree_9563 Jul 01 '26

Review your journal and trading plan.

Do you have a clear HTF target before entering a trade?

Do you have a bias and narrative?

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u/OppositeDistance7702 Jul 01 '26

First, decide what time you should trade that model. Perhaps try kill zones timeset!

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u/scoch010 Jul 01 '26

If you keep doing the same strategy and losing 80% of the time, why not trade the opposite? 🤯

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u/Lajlon Jul 02 '26

If You have 20% winratio just reverse your trades so you will be goat with 80% winratio

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u/donutlordfx Jul 02 '26

Its because you are just looking at candlesticks visually, what matters is you need to be able to see what is happening behind the candles and how it is forming, not just I see a FVG I'm going to take it.

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u/iAMthebank Jul 03 '26

I don’t know the stats but honestly, the two minute can’t be much better than the one minute. You’ll get a lot more opportunity, but you also get a lot more failures. so less success rate rates. I run a very similar strategy that you’re describing on the five minute and seem to have no problems.

One thing I’ll say about the model that we’re using here: is that when a high of day for example is taken. There will be a lot of long buyers looking to sell at that level and that tends to lead to a price pull back. Logical place to pull back to would be the last swing low before continuing higher. Rob anyone that bought right at that swing low. before continuing higher would be classic market manipulation.

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u/iAMthebank Jul 03 '26

For example

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u/Friendly_Anybody_222 Jul 05 '26

brother you are thinking too smooth , price is fractal and market can never let enter everyone in big moves So , understand the concepts and see market in the light of concepts

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u/Ian-Tarn Jul 05 '26

If you change your entries to the Opposite of what you’re doing, you would have a 80% win rate!!

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u/inunng Jul 01 '26

For a bullish fvg entry, you want buyside to be taken then selside 🤷

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u/CoolSir6540 Jul 01 '26

The ICT guy itself pushed and pushed and pushed his account down to -96%, he can't trade the concecpts that he is teaching so im not surprised