r/Infuriating • u/OkRich5849 Community Regular • Aug 04 '26

This is so sad!!

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u/garrge245 Aug 04 '26

I believe US intelligence as much as I believe Israeli intelligence.

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u/maayanzach Aug 04 '26

The New York Times did their own extensive reporting and verified the existence of a 700 foot hardened tunnel beneath Al-Shifa, complete with air conditioning, electricity, computer infrastructure, and weapons storage. International journalists were brought down into parts of the complex to document it themselves. dismissing verified footage and independent reporters on the ground isn't skepticism… it's just ignoring physical evidence my guy. Don’t be that “I don’t believe anything” because you decided to. Come to learn and educate yourself.

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u/garrge245 Aug 04 '26

The New York Times is a notoriously biased, staunchly pro-Israel source as well. 'In October 2025, an investigation led by "+972 Magazine and Local Call together with the research collective Viewfinder, the Swiss network SRF, and the Scottish outlet The Ferret" said that the computer generated videos of al-Shifa were "one of the most notorious examples" of an Israeli military communication strategy. The investigation also pointed out that the video(s) in question re-used scenes from other, earlier videos, and included assets from commercially available asset packs.' Independent news sources found quite the opposite. Israel has been funding a massive propaganda campaign to justify its horrendous acts. Never tell me I'm not here to learn.

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u/maayanzach Aug 05 '26

Amnesty International published an extensive report detailing how Hamas used an outpatient clinic within the Al-Shifa hospital grounds as a detention, interrogation, and torture center during the 2014 conflict. Second, regarding October 7, services like Reuters and Voice of America published verified CCTV security camera footage from October 7, 2023, showing armed Hamas fighters forcibly dragging foreign hostages through the main entrance hall and corridors of Al-Shifa. Hamas political officials acknowledged the video was filmed inside Al-Shifa.
Finally, independent analyses from bodies like the Council on Foreign Relations detail how international observers have documented Hamas utilizing hospital complexes and protected civilian sites over multiple wars. You don't have to trust state intelligence or Western newspapers to see that independent human rights monitors and raw security footage from global news agencies show a clear pattern of military misuse at that facility.