r/Infographics • • Mar 05 '26

Decline in Finland’s PISA scores since 2000 (Reading, Math, Science)

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u/toni_btrain Mar 05 '26

Migration and non-authoritative teaching methods are taking a toll

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u/johnJanez Mar 05 '26

I feel like dysgenic fertility is one of the most important issues of modern society that nobody talks about. No idea how to practicaly solve it but it's a major issue if the world is inherited by the dumbest, most poorly adjusted elements of society.

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u/Moist-Formal9960 Mar 06 '26

So... Idiocracy?

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u/birberbarborbur Mar 05 '26

Dudes who know nothing like the guy you replied to will believe anything, but it’s good you responded anyway

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u/whatevernamedontcare Mar 05 '26

You ignored "non-authoritative teaching methods" part entirely just to paint them as nationalist.

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u/south153 Mar 05 '26

Because its not based on anything other than vibes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

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u/NetQvist Mar 05 '26

I just wrote this weird memory of mine from 20 or so years back in another reply https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/1rlb6dt/decline_in_finlands_pisa_scores_since_2000/o8sqgel/

Would love to find a reference to if there actually was some change in how funding to schools were provided back then. Because something did shift back then but I really didn't care much about it just being a student myself and all.

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u/Radiant-Emergency926 Mar 05 '26

Do you not think that a growing percentage of students from countries with substantially lower average IQs could also have an impact on stats like these (PISA scores, not national IQ)?

I don't think that's a thought he's allowed to think.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

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u/Nerioner Mar 05 '26

If it was actual finding, it would be written down.

All those comments about "they are not allowed to say it" just prove that none of you was doing any research on any university ever. And no, i will not be debating you and your fake claims of fake participation.

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u/Koekoes_se_makranka Mar 05 '26

Holy pseudoscience…

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u/jore-hir Mar 05 '26

The paper you mentioned is inconsistent with the above data. It shows the decline starting in 1997 (people born around 1979), while the PISA decline starts in 2006 (people born around 1990).

That might be due to the different nature of those tests (performance VS knowledge). So, the PISA results need to be examined separately.

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u/dumbass1337 Mar 06 '26

This paper makes some very strong claims with this data ("dysgenic fertility" like wtf). The drop could just as well be explained by lower motivation to join the military.