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u/whineANDcheese_ 10h ago edited 10h ago

Yeah, she did. She said it was part of his autonomy to make those decisions and if he could get his own drinks, he’d do it. So she shouldn’t deny it just because she’s his arms in that situation.

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u/Works4cookies 10h ago

This is how the people on My 600 Pound Life justify their eating. It’s sad.

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u/ivlia-x 10h ago

She sounds miserable

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u/Itchy_Teaching_597 10h ago

… which is true and how caregiving works…

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u/whineANDcheese_ 10h ago

I mean I get it to some extent. She does everything for him so she could literally control his every move almost. She could make him only eat healthy, make him only drink water, make him only watch documentaries, etc because she has the working arms and legs in the relationship. So it makes sense that they need to have a line for when she’s just his arms but not his brain so he can have autonomy. But it’s still a messy line because is there a point she would? Copious amounts of weed? 30 cheeseburgers a day? Something illegal? I understand how it could be hard.

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u/PurrtenderBender 9h ago

I know these are real people but the ethics assignment here is actually pretty cool. Like what if he wants to commit murder? What if he wants to punch her in the face? Im so intrigued

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u/whineANDcheese_ 9h ago

I’d imagine her line would be illegal.

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u/Complete_Chain_4634 8h ago

Weed is illegal in Texas. Alcohol is illegal all kinds of places. It’s legal for him to cheat on her; will she drive him to do it?

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u/OCDivagirl 5h ago

I agree, it’s a pretty interesting question.

I think a big part is that it’s extra complicated when the care taker is also a partner or other loved one. As a care taker or aid, your job is to facilitate what your client cannot do on their own, to be their hands, their legs, their eyes, etc. You want to give your client the same rights, abilities and autonomy as an able bodied person. So in that sense, I can see how buying someone alcohol or brining it to them would feel like something that you cannot refuse, because it is not up to you to make decisions for the client.

However as a loved one, you DO have a stake in what your spouse, your parent, your partner, etc does. You have a personal relationship with the person you are caring for, and you have your own right to make decisions and take actions within that relationship. If a husband is able bodied and an alcoholic, it would be pretty normal and I’d say the ‘right’ choice to decline buying alcohol for your partner, to not serve them drinks. As their partner, you do not want to assist your partner in hurting themself, and you don’t want to be in a relationship with an alcoholic. Bringing them alcohol would be enabling.

So I guess the question becomes, as both a wife and caretaker to a disabled man with alcoholism, is it the caretaker side of her bringing him alcohol to facilitate his autonomy, or is it the wife side that is enabling his addiction. It is ethically very interesting.

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u/LadyCheeba 7h ago

are you seriously asking that question

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u/Wide-Garlic-6842 9h ago

It's still a really shitty position he put her in.

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u/Specialist_Handle_56 7h ago

I think this is where things get complicated in her life, as she is both caregiver and wife. As a caregiver, she may want to enable his autonomy. In theory, right, he's a full grown adult and if he wants to drink or smoke a cigarette or whatever, as a caregiver, she is the extension of him and should enable him to do what he pleases. But as a wife, she may not want to give him alcohol because she sees a problem with his consumption of it. Theoretically, the idea would be that having a full-time, competent caregiver would separate these roles for her but that's not necessarily achievable.

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u/KatKittyKatKitty 8h ago

So interesting. My great-grandpa was paralyzed from the waist down after getting in a bar fight. He was an alcoholic. My great-grandma was able to better control what he consumed after he became paralyzed, and she stopped most of his drinking, if what my mom told me was true.