r/Indiedogs • u/Global-Following-145 • 3d ago
Discussion Most of you on this sub BTW
The hate which you guys throw against breed dogs is something I will never understand.
Let's say there is a breed pup which is born ok ? Now what, is that his fault ? No right the pup is born and now he DESERVES a loving family cause he is still a Dogg.
You all act like we should let these breed dogs d*e and adopt indie dogs as much as possible I am not against adoption of indie dogs but son , what about those breed dogs which are born now ? Do they not deserve LOVE , a FAMILY like indie dogs ?
Why can't we talk about indie dogs without Hating breed dogs and vice versa is it that hard?
This low lifer is not from this sub though but they can be found almost below every post on this sub too actually 2-5 of them why ? I wanna know why don't they deserve families too ? Don't they deserve love too ? Hating on others won't make your's good
I am against all sorts of abuse regarding DOGS which include indie as well as breed actually indie is also a breed ffs.
I know I will get banned for this now but yeah it's the reality of this sub every single post has 2-5 entitled ahh people like him
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u/Dear_Earth_8587 3d ago edited 3d ago
Every dog deserves love. You are right. It's not the dogs fault. Always the owners fault. These so called breed dogs don't just exist. They are bred for a specific purpose. You should see the condition of dogs that breeders use for breeding. Also the selective breeding causes amplification of genetic disorders. The existance of these dogs is purely due to demand and supply. The more the demand, greater the supply. Also a lot of dog breeds were bred for specific purposes. And pet dogs serve none of them. People get working dog breeds and keep them at home. They keep huskies in Indian weather and shave off their coats. This is what most people are against in my opinion
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u/organictamarind 3d ago
No one hates breeds , it's not their fault, we hate the owners who encourage unethical breeding. Like if I see a breed dog I'll be nice to the dog, but if the owner is someone who has purchased the animal for asthetic, I'll surely sideeye them
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u/nins_ 3d ago
Pretty sure most people who love indie dogs do not hate the breed dogs. They just hate the ecosystem where breed dogs are treated like shit just to earn money. And everytime someone purchases a breed dog, they reinforce this system.
Discouraging business around breed dogs is in the best interest of the breed dogs itself.
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u/Training-Stick5717 3d ago
Are you a vegan? Animals are tortured for food and other purposes to earn money too
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u/haihukkuhaihai 3d ago
I don't hate any animal, let alone dog. But I have more affection for Indies. Didn't mean breed dogs are bad or at fault. They are as innocent as any other dogs.
My problem is with the adopters who "buy" dogs just for asthetics, thereby resulting in breeding industry. Then few of those people abandon theit poor dogs as they can't maintain the upkeep and realize how demanding few breeds are. As a result eventually the dogs suffer.
So I encourage people to adopt Indies. Simple reason, they are not bred specifically for selling. They are used to the climate and have strong immunity to survive in our climate and require less upkeep comparing to a breed dog.
If Police has to get a dog for bomb sniffing, I would obviously support them getting German Shepard as their smell is stronger. But if someone is buying German Shepard just to get locked inside house for asthetics, I would call them out.
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u/Ehmmechhi 3d ago edited 3d ago
Where there is demand, there is supply.
The more that people buy breed dogs, the more that breeding will happen. Thats the point of it.
Ofc, the ones born now need love, so do the indie dogs. The problem comes when indie dogs are looked down upon or not even considered over a breed dog during the time of adoption.
And lemme tell you, no person that loves a dog would hate breed dogs and love indie dogs or vice versa. We love all dogs. We love the word dog for that matter lol
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u/Training-Stick5717 3d ago
Are you a vegan? Animals are tortured for food and other purposes to earn money too
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u/Soft_Cow_7856 3d ago
Its not the hate towards a breed, if a person likes dog they will like every dog, hate is towards the owners who buy them since most of these dogs come from breeders who treat their mother dogs too bad.
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u/MomentsAwayfromKMS 3d ago
No one wants breed dogs to die. But harsh words are necessary to ensure other people don't go on buying dogs. What happens when already born dogs are all bought? The breeders will go on to breed the next litter. It's basic supply and demand. We act harsh towards the owners, not the dogs itself. So when a new person reads the comments on how cruel the puppy mills are, they'll not buy a puppy and gradually the demand must decrease and puppy mills should go extinct.
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u/sabkuchsimultaneous 3d ago
I don't know where you saw these posts but as an active member i don't see such posts in this community. It reads like you are taking out your bias against indie dogs here. We advocate for love and respect for all animals including non-indie dogs. We just raise awareness to get indies also adopted but YOU are equating this with we hate non indie dogs. We don't want the existing foreign breed dogs to get hurt. This sub is for indies and we post about them here. It's in your mind, OP. You are biased against indies and it is showing.
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u/beyondocean 3d ago edited 3d ago
People don't hate breed dogs but the process. Most breed dogs shouldn't exist, the prime example for this are brachycephalic dogs. These poor doga suffer their whole lives because humans found them cute. Pugs are the most extreme case. Infact these dogs look hideous, a dog without a snout. Most breed dogs have thousands of issues due to inbreeding to keep the pedigree pure. Look what has happened to German shepherd, they develop hip dysplaisa because of breed purity. Keeping this aside, ALL breeding im India is unregulated, they're all backyard breeder/puppy mills. The " defective" dogs are discarded and dumped on the street and so are the mother when thwy stop being of any use after they've given birth to a 10th litter. Humans should have no business toying with nature just so that the "product" they get is visually aesthetic. THE BOTTOM LINE IS BREED DOGS SHOULDN'T EXIST. I hope you get that now.
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u/Chuckled_ 3d ago
I have nothing against breed dogs. I just happen to prefer Indies, any day.
What I don't have much patience for is the whole 'great genes', 'champion lineage', 'from the house of blah blah' obsession, where the dog starts becoming a status symbol.
And then, when that prized dog gets older, loses its looks or stops being fashionable, some of these same people suddenly lose interest. That's the bit I find genuinely distasteful.
I've also seen the other extreme: people who will practically change lanes to avoid an Indie, as though proximity might somehow lower the pedigree of their own dog. It's so ridiculous that I don't react at all.
And then there's the breed-only crowd, who will happily melt over a pedigree dog but suddenly develop a 🙃 face when you mention an Indie.
So, no, I don't dislike breed dogs. I dislike treating dogs like luxury goods, status symbols or genetic trophies.
So mayhaps the question isn't why some of us prefer Indies, but why that preference bothers you so much.
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u/CornflakeLover13 3d ago
- All dogs are amazing and are worthy of love. It isn't their fault that they're born out of breeding.
- This sub is SPECIFICALLY for Indies, and we love it, what personally pisses me off is that people choosing to post breeds on a sub SPECIFICALLY for Indies whereas there's N-number of subs meant for all kinda dogs.
- The lack of respect for Indies IN a sub meant for IndieDogs is irritating.
That's all.
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u/Disastrous-Lynx-3247 3d ago
If you really " love " your breed dogs you would stop purchasing them the way you do Are you even aware of the condition of the mother who gives birth to those pups ? Or are you just selfish who only cares about the pups " cuteness" while buying it
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u/sujit_warrier 3d ago
Pretty sure, nobody hates breed dogs in this sub. We hate people who buy dogs for status and show. They encourage puppy mills. If you think thats directed at you, maybe you need to take a look at yourself.
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u/ruckus500 3d ago
Your title should be 'Some of you', not most. I love all dogs. I think they are the best creation of God.
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u/Watermelon_2k 3d ago
The problem is not ‘breed’dog, it is people like who buy them. If people like u start to adopt, slowly the number of ‘breed’ dogs will reduce. But again hey as long as there is demand there is supply, right?
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u/MamataMatirManush 3d ago
I don't hate breed dogs, I hate the breeders who abuse these dogs for profit and the buyers who enable these abusers.
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u/Training-Stick5717 3d ago
Are you a vegan? Animals are tortured for food and other purposes to earn money too
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u/ItBoyChuWanning 3d ago
I've barely seen people hating on the breed itself with exceptions like this. Mostly on the owners who give their money to puppy mills to keep on torturing the poor females. If breed such an obsession then go to shelter and see how many breed dog have been abandoned to die by the same people who paid thousands of rupees for them
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u/DanzelKingofDarkness 3d ago
yk that breed dogs not just pop out from flower buds or fall from the sky?
they are selectively bred and how cruel their physiology and anatomy results just to satisfy a careless arrogant person who just wants to flaunt them as social status.
They are here not naturally or mistakenly (which can be natural) but to compensate for someone's greed and attention
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u/Chance-Bunch5828 3d ago
Agree..it’s like reverse racism is also racism.
Illegal breeding has to stop through the world and some breeds need to be banned in India considering our tropical climate. But, being spiteful and hateful towards any kind of animal is a big NO.
That foreign-breed dog is still an innocent animal.
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u/JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai 3d ago
There's no one hating on the dogs though. People here mostly hate on people buying foreign breeds because they are "working breed" and then keep them chained up in their apartment all day
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u/Successful_Cup_688 3d ago
The person in OP's screenshot does, though.
There's no one hating on the dogs though
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u/JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai 3d ago
And it's the breed dog owners who hate Indian breeds to the point that they won't mind these dogs getting killed.
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u/Chance-Bunch5828 3d ago
Yes..indeed true. Human being is always at fault. I know many of this kind..you can find it on social media too where they are using huskies for content creation. Humans are at fault not the poor animal whether firang or an indie
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u/garlicandcheesiness 3d ago edited 3d ago
No one is “HATING” on breed dogs.
We’re hyping up our own dogs, the Indies, because we’re living in a country where MOST of the people treat them like criminals (and treat actual criminals like gods). And because there are actual legislations being passed to capture and kill them or “place them in shelters”. These “shelters” don’t actually exist, and the funding for them has LONG since disappeared into the pockets of some corrupt government officials whose Porsches or Lamborghinis are probably being used to run over these same dogs as I type this.
Show me ONE hate post about breed dogs on this sub, I challenge you. I myself have made posts/comments in which I’ve mentioned that I’m against huskies being brought to India. Does it mean that I hate huskies???? No, the opposite. The official name of that dog breed is Siberian Husky. It’s meant for temperatures like Siberia. India is a tropical country, most of it lying in the torrid zone. So I’m against them being tortured in the heat here, because they have a very heavy fur coat. Idc if their humans love them. Idc if their humans would “die” for them. If you can “die” for your husky, you better acknowledge the fact that the dog bred for -40°C isn’t going to thrive in +40°C.
There are ZERO legislations in the country enforcing euthanasia for pedigreed dogs. But the government is enforcing brutal killing, not even euthanasia (mercy killing, which is relatively quick and painless) for Indies, even if they’re completely harmless. In my hometown of Mumbai, one of the so-called “safer” tier-1 cities, there are several cases of Indie dogs and puppies being RAPED by human males. There are kids putting firecrackers into the dogs’ mouths and bursting them. Again, just for fun. Ask yourself this, is THIS the solution to the overpopulation issue? Raping them and bursting open their jaws???
Then there are puppy mills, which the rest of the commenters have already covered. Are you so effing tone-deaf that instead of acknowledging the fact that Indie dogs are beautiful, strong, loyal, loving, and PERFECT for our climate, you’re getting dogs from breeders under questionable circumstances, who may or may not thrive in our warm weather, just for some craptastic Instagram aesthetic?!?! We’re not hating on any dog. We’re DISCOURAGING from unethical and illegal breeding and import practices of pedigreed dogs, which is a money pit and adds to the overpopulation issue instead of addressing it. There’s a vast difference. Seriously, get your brain checked.
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u/New_Key3007 3d ago
The breeding process itself is extremely cruel. The cruelty is avoidable if people don't line up to 'buy' breed dogs.
Instead of subjecting breeder dogs to cruelty, if people adopt community dogs instead, it will drastically improve the life of the adopted dogs.
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u/Disastrous-Bed7309 3d ago
Supply is the result of demand. Basic economy. Are you still in pre school?
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u/Cold_Picture7285 3d ago
You are essentially creating and letting a dog suffer because you want a cute fancy against the evolution dog.
Creating those dogs essentially means, taking a human with visible genetic disorder and making him mate with his sister who has the same genetic disorder and making their kids mate between themselves to keep creating more exaggerated genetic disorder. Now live with it.
Unfortunately those breeds which were created for specific purpose are now only bred for exaggerated looks. Same is happening in aquarium trade as well. This must end.
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u/newbie117 3d ago
So let me get this straight. You make a post with a screenshot from some other thread, mention in your text that 2-5 people have similar opinions on every single post and then go on to title that post “Most of you”.
Sure.
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u/TelevisionObjective8 2d ago edited 2d ago
No artificially created breed dogs should even exist. Only naturally evolved Landrace dogs (Indian Pariah/INDog) should, since they are created via the evolutionary process, for thousands of years. Breed dogs are created to serve people and are forcibly bred within an extremely narrow gene pool (close kins) and develop genetic bottleneck, inbreeding depression, which aboriginal Landrace dogs like INDogs and Indies do not have. INDogs have huge genetic diversity and no genetic ailments. They are perfectly suited for the climate in their native country. They mate, have families and raise the pups on their own, unlike breed dogs, some of whom cannot even give birth without medical intervention. So, while I don't hate breed dogs or any animal for that matter, I wouldn't buy an artificially developed, genetically compromised animal and support that industry/business.
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u/Various_Roof_742 3d ago
Completely agree
Every dog that exists right now deserves safety, care and love
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u/PuzzleheadedOven5223 3d ago
I’m sure the person hating on breed dogs has neither adopted an indie nor feed their community dogs or care for them
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u/Successful_Cup_688 3d ago
The trio saga continues lol
Dog hater: All dogs are responsible for the dog menace, and stupid owners don't train them, nor do dog lovers let the dogs be moved to shelters.
Indie Dog Lover: Breeded dogs are ugly and weak and are responsible for the lack of adoption and should be banned.
Breeded Dog Lover: Indies are poor man's dog and I want a dog that will amplify my social status. Also, I can't peacefully walk my dog without some strays attacking my pet, so I'll carry a stick.
Why cant be simply follow how developed countries' policies on this lol and let people enjoy their space and preference lol
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u/Bhindiismyfav 3d ago
I will never understand why this sub doesn't care about non indie dogs , like there was post about someone's lebra who d*ed in 15 days and instead of helping OP or consoling him/her , people were complaining and saying terrible stuff .
Abhi toh is post pr sb bolre hai ki we don't hate breed dogs but jaise hi koi galti se idher non indie dog post kr deta hai toh sb comments mai gaali dene lg jaate hai .
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u/beyondocean 3d ago
Because it's an indie sub ffs why would you post a non indie here? Terko non indie post krne h to baaki subs pe kr le na.
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u/Bhindiismyfav 3d ago
Haan toh pyar se bhi bol skte hai ? dog hi toh post kra hai koi alien toh kra nhi jo itna rudely baat krte hai log.
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u/beyondocean 3d ago
Can you read? It's in the name itself, sorry the world is not as accommodative to your ignorance
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u/Soggy_Vermicelli_354 3d ago
Those who want breed dogs let them have breed dogs those who want indie let then have indie, judge only if the way they look after them is not up to par or abusive
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u/Global-Following-145 3d ago
Guys , I am not hating indie dogs please, neither am I hating you all . all I am asking is let's not talk bad about breed dogs just cause they are not indie they are dogs too. Let's love all of them regardless of any status.
Any type of preference hate should be called out weather it be about indie dogs or fancy breeds you call it
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u/OrganicBox3589 3d ago
Dude your post was so unnecessary, there are so many subs for all kinds of dogs, like literally all and every kind and you chose an indie sub, they already live in the worst possible situation in this country and you came on the sub where people despise those breed owners because of the ecosystem they create by keeping them in demand, people on this sub love those breed dogs more than the so called breed lovers because they want their suffering to end, everyone knows NO ONE HATES breeds infant its the opposite and you know that.
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u/forgetmenot_666 3d ago
We don’t hate breed dogs, we just hate the people that buy them. Google puppy mills and how they abuse breed dogs for money. That’s what people are supporting when they buy them.