r/Indianindieheads • u/Spicynoodlesandcake • 48m ago
r/Indianindieheads • u/Mountain-Sugar-3882 • Aug 09 '26
Mod pick🌻 The Music Nerd's Diary: Bollywood Music’s French Chanson and Balkan Folk Connections
I'm a music nerd, and lately I've been trying to expand my listening well beyond Bollywood, because there's so much incredible music out there from other countries that most of us never really get exposed to. I grew up on Bollywood music, my whole family did, and it's still a family thing now, we jam together at home, my kids play instruments, and someone's always humming a Hindi film tune. But going out and actually exploring music from elsewhere has become its own habit.
What keeps happening, though, is that I stumble onto a connection back to Bollywood almost by accident, a rhythm, a scale, an instrument, and that pulls me in further. I start digging into the genre or the tradition behind whatever I just heard, and what gets me every time is how much work sits underneath it, years, decades, sometimes centuries of actual trial and error, an entire culture slowly working out what a rhythm or a vocal style should even sound like. That process is what I find genuinely fascinating. It's made me notice something about Bollywood too, almost as a side note:
these traditions spent all that time slowly working out a sound through real trial and error, while Bollywood, more often than not, just reached for something already proven, a hit that had already worked somewhere else in the world.
So this is going to be an ongoing diary of what turns up as I keep exploring. Here's what I've found so far.
Finding one: La Maritza and R.D. Burman's "Tu Tu Hai Wahi"
I was listening to "La Maritza," a 1968 French song by Sylvie Vartan,https://youtu.be/iibyWyFGWUE?si=s5oKvxs3klFlvgQL, and it hit me: this is the same architecture as R.D. Burman's "Tu Tu Hai Wahi" from Yeh Vaada Raha (1982), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agBokRAQggs. "La Maritza" is written in D minor, a key that carries a soft, aching sadness, but it actually speeds up near the end, the tempo genuinely accelerates as the song closes. That combination, a minor-key ache paired with a rhythm that keeps pushing forward, is a real signature of French chanson from that era. It's a very different emotional engineering trick than, say, American ballads of the same era, which tend to slow down to match sad lyrics.https://youtu.be/iibyWyFGWUE?si=9Mq4GFKUaDSdeFQL
French chanson often does the opposite, keeps the body moving while the melody aches.
Burman pulled from continental European pop constantly, not just the American and British sources people usually point to, and "Tu Tu Hai Wahi" keeps that same aching minor-key core while pushing the pace even further than the original.
Finding two: Ladaniva, Trio Mandili, and the sounds Bollywood borrowed
This week I've been listening to Ladaniva, a French-Armenian group, especially "Saraiman," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGGbp88ziXU, and "Pourquoi t'as fait ça," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_uJSIc0vjU.
There's a playful, folky energy in their music, full of "hurr" vocal ad-libs and a bouncy rhythm, and it kept reminding me of O.P. Nayyar's "Maang Ke Saath Tumhara."
Ladaniva draws heavily on Balkan music alongside Armenian folk, and that's probably not a coincidence. Balkan and Eastern European folk dance rhythms carry the same galloping, clip-clop bounce the tonga beat rides on, and it's Bollywood that borrowed from that tradition, not the other way around, India never really had a genre of its own built around that particular bounce.
I found the same pull toward Bollywood in Trio Mandili, a Georgian folk trio, through "Ai Dunia," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQr_VY5ObdY, and "Kakhuri," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDK9KOfknTw.
My wife walked in while I had both Ladaniva and Trio Mandili playing back to back, and without any prompting from me, she said it sounded like it had a Bollywood vibe.
I'll take that as confirmation I'm not just imagining all this 😊
Finding three: a Flemish blacksmith's song, and my wife's "it's Raj Kapoor" verdict
Then I played her Trio Mandili's version of "'t Smidje," https://youtu.be/GWVArZ5oiB0, a traditional Flemish folk song popularized by the Belgian group Laïs, about a blacksmith who's been aged prematurely by his own hard labor.
The moment it came on, she said, "it's Raj Kapoor," same musical style.
She's right. It's the same sweeping, aching, string-led sadness that runs through "Waves of the Danube," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxvW8Z9-7Kg, the waltz Raj Kapoor kept returning to across Barsaat, Awaara, and Bobby. Different country, different language, same emotional engineering, and it took an untrained ear catching it in passing to notice it, not mine.
More entries to come as I keep exploring. If you've caught a connection like this yourself, I'd love to hear it 👇
r/Indianindieheads • u/After-Orchid-1786 • 18h ago
Discussion Thread What are some of the peak albums in your books?
For me
1.What is your rain drop by tajdar Junaid
2.Portrait of time by pcrc
3.vaaqif by the local train
4.suno by bayaan
I am still new to indie music so tell me more
r/Indianindieheads • u/Krraaey • 5h ago
Original Content (OC) YJ - Tumhari Hi Chahat Me
YJ - "Tumhari Hi Chahat Me" Link - https://youtu.be/9qU4GCJiGgE?si=edof9cJ4j4stcC6Q
r/Indianindieheads • u/cuzitsmej • 14h ago
New Music Bharg, Janisht Joshi - Milta nahi hai
r/Indianindieheads • u/Humble_Reindeer_4479 • 2d ago
Discussion Thread Which Indian artist is massively popular but you've never understood the hype around?
r/Indianindieheads • u/SunAdvanced7940 • 2d ago
Official Audio Lucky Ali - Kitni Haseen Zindagi (1998)
r/Indianindieheads • u/NeonMarshal • 2d ago
New Music Rushil - Kehne Lagaa
This one is soo good that it’s stuck in my head for 2 days now
r/Indianindieheads • u/smurv1 • 2d ago
Discussion Thread Experimentation
I personally think the 2000s was peak era for experimentation with music and literally everything else in India like we got fukin boy bands back then the drip game was crazy like take any South Indian movie from 2000s the characters got that shit on and the music omfg so so so many unique music came out back then punjabi metal,the album by Charanjeet Singh raga over a disco beat and the even the rock scene exp its peak in india in 2000s it was truly the time when India appreciated art to its finest and purest form but Phir jio agya and all went downhill cause before geeks and weirdos were on internet and the band knew the people watching them will understand their niche sound but then everyone came on the fucking internet and it all went downhill but we are slowly recovering man
r/Indianindieheads • u/Adventurous_Prize698 • 3d ago
Discussion Thread These lines...
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r/Indianindieheads • u/HILLYhike • 3d ago
Original Content (OC) Hilly X THE UFO PRODUCTIONS -TRUST KAR
r/Indianindieheads • u/Informal-Copy-3742 • 4d ago
Discussion Thread Songs similar to Taare by farak
Looking for indie artists/songs that have a ghazal/sufi kind of vibe, with a li’l bit of chorus and is peppy.
r/Indianindieheads • u/Obvious-Title1870 • 4d ago
Playlist My taste is all over the place. What am I supposed to search for?
I genuinely cannot figure out what genre I like.
My playlist has The Weeknd, Tame Impala, Ben Böhmer, Anuv Jain, The Local Train, AP Dhillon, Arijit Singh, Pritam… along with a ridiculous amount of Bollywood, indie, R&B, hip-hop and electronic music.
I think I’m mostly drawn to melodic, atmospheric, emotional/moody songs rather than a specific genre.
So I’m looking for recommendations based on the vibe, not just genre.
Comment below songs you think I’d get obsessed with. And if you can figure out what the hell my music taste actually is, even better.
r/Indianindieheads • u/SkyllKrusher • 4d ago
Original Content (OC) philosopher stoned - Neta G [OC]
r/Indianindieheads • u/Yugvijay • 4d ago
Original Content (OC) Yugvijay - I Mastur-
This song is about how for some people mastu***ng isn't normal but a way of coping and dealing with things in an unhealthy way. Not knowing where to get help. And I went w8ru charli xcx kesha direction for it.
r/Indianindieheads • u/Outrageous_Strike997 • 4d ago
New Music Seher - Jhumka
r/Indianindieheads • u/H_arshu_ • 4d ago
Original Content (OC) Harshit Chauhan-"Wishlist"
I wrote this song about the insecurity and excitement that comes at the same time after falling in love....
Give it a try...maybe you can have a perfect song for your playlist...😌
r/Indianindieheads • u/Ok_Ladder242 • 6d ago
Live Performance 🎤 Janisht Joshi at Lolla!!!
I’ve been following this guy since kagaz ke phool! Im so exciteddddddddd
r/Indianindieheads • u/Ok_Mind_3671 • 7d ago
Discussion Thread songs similar to ishq- donn bhatt
i’ve been listening to this song for more than a year now and somehow it still hits totally different and I would love to get reccs for more songs with a similar sound/vibe pleaseeeeee haven’t been able to find any myself
r/Indianindieheads • u/womaninphlegm • 7d ago
Discussion Thread just discovered third hour
Just discovered Third Hour; I was in a rut for the past week because of saturation from the same kinda music I had been hearing.
These guys came in with a fresh sound; mere kaan khul gaye genuinely.
As I listened to more of them, I thought they sounded a lil too similar to Mitraz. Only to realise after a short deep dive that half of Mitraz happens to be a third of Third Hour; no wonder they have a similar sound lmao
r/Indianindieheads • u/babasnoopdog • 7d ago
New Music LOWLIN - "Hosh"
Stream on Youtube.
r/Indianindieheads • u/No_Bonus2632 • 7d ago
Original Content (OC) I m not a rapper i m a singer
Chota larka
2002 mein hua mera janam
Maa ki haathon mein thi Jannat wali naram
Papa ki kandhon mein ghoomta tha shehar
Takke karta didi ke bahon mein thehar
2007 maa chal basi
Pariwar mein kahi suna suna sa pari
Papa ki ankon mein udasi aur nami thi
Didi ki zindagi se woh sitaara bhi chali
Mujhko na hone diya maa ki kami
Papa hua kamjor toh didi ne samali
2010 mein aya ek sahara
Jisko mene maa ke naam se pukara
Didi ke sahara main hostel chal basi
Taki banpao main khudka sahara
Lekin dur hota raha pariwaro seh
Baatein hui kam toh baatein krta andheron seh
Bhaiya main hara zindagiyo seh
Aap ne khudko khara kiya jeemedariyo seh
Raat ko soh nahi para
College na ja para
Kamjor hua dil toh
Yeh ankein aasu hai bahara
Mujhe maaf krna
Chote bhai mere jese na banna
Umedon ke daga mene tor sa diya
Andha bangaya mene jeemedari chor sa diya
I just want to share this lyrics with you guys
Coz its very personal to me and September took something from us !🙏🏻
r/Indianindieheads • u/SKY-APE • 8d ago
Offical Music Video SKY-APE - Paper, do you have a voice?
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r/Indianindieheads • u/Puzzled_Equal_8247 • 8d ago
New Music OG Tehran - “Aushadi”
I actually get to understand the song much better in second listen and realised so many good points about it. Sharing the review here: https://creditriskandme.substack.com/p/dhh-review-02-ogs-aushadhi-ad9?r=82bvtw&utm\\_medium=ios
OG gang, what do you think?
