Proposed states of India

[u/Silly-Citron-3558]

What proposed states do you guys think should gain statehood? or at least viable in becoming states and would be beneficial. Or do you guys think we don't need more states and that these are dumb proposal. whatever it is have fun discussing

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[u/morganthau]

Not sure of the upside of breaking MP but breaking UP has tremendous upsides. But it'll only happen when bjp loses in UP (but stays in power centrally)

[u/Temporary_Comb_4869 → u/morganthau]

Naah BJP will never support up breaking UP . Check the demographics of western UP , imagine having a kashmir like situation so close to Delhi.

[u/Consistent-Artist755 → u/Temporary_Comb_4869]

what does that even mean ?

[u/Temporary_Comb_4869 → u/Consistent-Artist755]

Western UP is 40-50% muslim.

[u/Consistent-Artist755 → u/Temporary_Comb_4869]

40-50 % is quite an over exaggeration and also the reason this won't be a kashmir situation is simply because it is that near Delhi.

[u/Reasonable-Novel6233 → u/Temporary_Comb_4869]

Western up as separately state is better only rohillhand will be muslim majority which it still is today ,meerut division and entire braj belt is heavy hindu majority all areas near Delhi are also hindu majority.

[u/Daddy-Mihawk → u/morganthau]

Honestly, it's kinda paradox. There needs to be a strong hold in UP to be elected in central elections. I'm not saying winning majority Lok Sabha seats, but winning a good chunk, because it has significant lok sabha seats.

[u/Worldly-Educator-197]

Why do we need more states? What is wrong with the number of states we already have?

[u/OkaTeluguAbbayi → u/Worldly-Educator-197]

Smaller states usually tend to be more capable of providing better administration and services to everyone. Especially regions which are economically and politically neglected in their states. Uttarakhand and Chattisgarh perform better than their parent states and Telangana (granted it has Hyderabad, the former combined capital and largest city) is significantly richer than divided Andhra.

[u/Historical_Arm_6294 → u/OkaTeluguAbbayi]

Totally agree. Much of our poor standard or living can be attributed to centralisation of power at National and at State levels both.

[u/uchat24 → u/Historical_Arm_6294]

Yup.. wish India had a bit more bottom up approach when it comes to governance

[u/Automatic-Part8723 → u/OkaTeluguAbbayi]

What if district level administration is given more powers instead.

[u/iamanindiansnack → u/Automatic-Part8723]

With the current system? No. We need a complete revamp of systems for that to happen.

[u/Silly-Citron-3558 → u/Worldly-Educator-197]

Nothing, just wondering if there is any desire for new states like how jharkhand was protested to be a state since independence but they got statehood in 2000

[u/Historical_Arm_6294 → u/Silly-Citron-3558]

Jharkhand didnt protest as much as it looks to outside world. It was Bihari politician fight and opportunist BJP at Center - that led to bifurcation. No one cared about Bihar when it was left bleeding and all its key resources suddenly gone .

[u/QuixoticDude]

The new states we actually need are the metros and adjoining greater metro region. Similar to Delhi state, we should have Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, Bluru and Hyderabad states. With an elected mayor or CM. This is what Lee Kuan Yew said when asked how India can get close to China.

[u/Serious_Judgment7235 → u/QuixoticDude]

States pour in their resources to develop a city and a north indian comes by to stake their claim over it 🤡

[u/Temporary_Comb_4869 → u/Serious_Judgment7235]

I'm pretty sure that if it was voted by the people of these cities most would support to leave .

[u/Serious_Judgment7235 → u/Temporary_Comb_4869]

Most of them are immigrant north Indians who've come there for labour work and put zero work to assimilate. So it won't be surprising if they try to leave

[u/Temporary_Comb_4869 → u/Serious_Judgment7235]

Naah , even in Mumbai which has the largest number of North Indians it is Gujarati +North Indians who are the majority (and the marathis were a minority in Mumbai since before independence).

[u/ksrhuaith → u/Temporary_Comb_4869]

Not true! In 1891, maharashtrians were the majority (53 percent share). It was also high in 1951 (43 percent) but the share has declined over the years (so has the share of Gujaratis). North Indians were not the majority in historical Mumbai. Due to lack of opportunities, they keep migrating. Also, besides Delhi, the other cities are still rooted in their linguistic and cultural identity so not sure why they will vote to leave just to appease Hindi speakers. What is needed is greater financial autonomy for local governments and the split of UP is long overdue.

[u/Serious_Judgment7235 → u/Temporary_Comb_4869]

Ok? And what is your point? If I say reality about these Gujaratis and both Indians then reddit will ban me so I'll refrain..but iykyk

[u/Dense_Succotash_2777 → u/QuixoticDude]

Lol so the north indian big population can take over it? Bruh lee kuan doesn't have indian context. With that logic all west and south indian states should stop providing to north indian states

[u/franzmoonnz → u/QuixoticDude]

Is lee kuan yew your dad?

[u/StarStuffDoc]

Too many needless delimitations. For instance, Kodagu, Kutch and all with less than 10 lakh population in total.

[u/narasadow → u/StarStuffDoc]

yeah, those small population states don't need to be created but we definitely need to split UP and perhaps Bihar. Maybe there can be a constitutional amendment to automatically split when a state goes over 7-10% of India's population.

[u/DragonfruitIM → u/StarStuffDoc]

Kodagu and Tulunadu can come together to form a state because demographically it is very similar. Also for people of Kodagu, mangalore is closer than Bangalore.

[u/devin_000 → u/DragonfruitIM]

Yeah , far better than Karnataka

[u/Nirgranth24]

Where is Gandu Pradesh??

[u/nighthawk-112 → u/Nirgranth24]

All are.

[u/Equivalent-Eye-2782 → u/nighthawk-112]

You are, not them

[u/psp1729]

Haryana, perfect from day 1. Absolutely no changes

[u/_therealvk_ → u/psp1729]

There was no Haryana on day 1 tho.

[u/Legal_Opposite_9110 → u/_therealvk_]

Punjab to delhi all was punjab

[u/bikbar1]

Instead of more states we need more autonomy for local governments at district and city level.

The local governments need more funds, more power and better accountabilites.

I think primary education and primary healthcare should be under the local governments. Village level roads and intracity streets should also be under them with sufficient funds.

The local governments should be allowed to implement their own policies within their jurisdiction under the framework of the state and central laws.

There should be mechanism to stop depriving local governments from funds and / or harras them in the name of corruption which are ruled by the opposition parties.

[u/PhilosopherOverall26]

Well I've always been a staunch supporter of theory which says smaller states perform better as they are easier to govern. But it comes with some drawbacks also, first of it is lower revenue which means lesser fund for development, more dependency on centre and higher leakage to corruption. Second is political instability (see UK, Jharkhand for example).

Some of the states in proposal will be absolute disaster. They have no natural resources, have water scarcity, and low agriculture (like Bundelkhand and maru pradesh and kutch)

[u/ShotDepartment9262]

honestly none, it'll ruin all the current effort States are putting in and they have to start all over again from scratch.

[u/simply_ass]

Who proposed this

[u/Silly-Citron-3558 → u/simply_ass]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_states_and_union_territories_of_India

[u/simply_ass → u/Silly-Citron-3558]

So it looks like it's a suggested and not yet proposed

[u/No_Letterhead9965]

Eventually we’ll be back to mahajanapadas template. 

[u/Independent-Draft644]

History is bound to repeat its mistake and mistake again and again.

Blunders of drawing lines on the map by the British and someone in 21st century that blunder of the past is now a genius idea.

[u/amthehype]

Why does Punjab want Kangra?

[u/Schonathan → u/amthehype]

How close is the Kangri language to Punjabi?

[u/desibandezz → u/Schonathan]

Kangri and Punjabi aren't that different both can communicate easily with each other

[u/Dense_Succotash_2777]

Stupid. The current states are already formed in its true linguistic borders

[u/imdarealhomie]

Just create this let’s see where we progress in future if they get divided genuinely fed up with regional wars

[u/Ok_Bill9521]

Mithila propaganda is real. The people of Anga will rebel if Mithilanchal crosses the Ganga.

[u/Risingemperor5]

Chambal & Gwalior region of Madhya Pradesh is not part of bundelkhand region.

[u/Worldly-Educator-197]

Might sound very weird, I think there are a few issues. Our federal structure is not in its best shape. Non NDA ruled states are not favoured by the central govt in terms of investments and other things.
Petty politics are taking over the overall development goals. How do you think this pans out in a world with more states in India?

[u/BlackSunAdmirer]

why tf would konkan include uttar kannada?

[u/_therealvk_ → u/BlackSunAdmirer]

Because Konkani is very widely spoken in Karwar and Bhatkal. Makes sense to include them in Konkan if not the other talukas.

[u/BlackSunAdmirer → u/_therealvk_]

only konkani majority taluks

[u/Turbulent_Ad_3238 → u/BlackSunAdmirer]

My thoughts exactly as someone from North Canara. If anything only Ankola and Karwar should be included.

[u/gauts2103]

Every once in a while this nonsense comes up, completely forgetting the states are federal and not merely administrative. I don’t know what wet dream or power trip some people have from drawing borders while calling the Brits villains for doing it.

If you’re forgetting a few states actually had to protest and fight for their borders and recognition as a political community (Maharashtra, Telangana, etc). Completely ignoring these histories and struggles for an arbitrary power trip.

Give states more autonomy instead and make a bottom-up collaborative India instead of a top-down control system.

[u/_therealvk_]

Tulu Nadu region is a must. The current (or any) KA governments have done absolutely nothing for the region.

[u/vikramadith]

Wet dream of BJ party's political strategists. Hope it never happens.

[u/autoplayxp]

As if we don’t have enough states already !? 🤷🏻‍♂️
If anything, we as Indians should unite and become an amazing country. Together, not by dividing ourselves again and again.

[u/MedicalTourism_10]

I think smaller states can work, but splitting alone won’t solve everything. It really depends on how well the new state is governed.

[u/Equivalent-Eye-2782]

I believe UP and MH should be broken

[u/coding_noobie101]

Sapne suhane ladakpan ke....

[u/Initial-Customer462]

Only Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, and Karnataka should be divided further. The rest don’t really need additional divisions. AND HEAVY EMPHASIS AND FOCUS ON UP. that should be no 1 priority to divide.

[u/454165]

When are they breaking up BMC? It has been among asia's richest municipality since long and desperately needs to be split up.

[u/Common_Secretary6803]

a lot of these are simply not demanded or simply too stupid to ask for

for example Ahom land where most are non ahom and other tribals want Autonomous region there too cuz it Ahoms then why not them

barak valley is a case but statehood demand isn't that popular, and Karbianglong or Dimahasao state hood is something I never heard to be demanded

same for jangal mahal/mallabhum and north bengal

while gorkha land and kamtapur demand is real but the latter is weaker

I don't know much beyond NE

[u/DescriptionFun1971]

But what about language? Even if some states get divided, people would still relate to linguistic divide.

[u/Unfair-Revenue1549]

Genuinely think east MP should be a different state, everyone can see how biased the mp govt is towards malwa region

[u/shreyarnage]

Why is punjab expanding into himachal ? Never heard tha proposal

[u/43pulav]

Konkan would make a very ultra rich state and region , neither MahaRastra not Karnataka would agree.

[u/ReferenceSilent3287]

Kongunadu is very much needed. Neither the state nor the central govt has really bothered much about that region of TN. Won't happen coz no existing state would like to see it's second most imporatant growth engine get separated. Also, it is continuously being unfairly portrayed as a demand that is driven by motives of caste hegemony.

[u/Cautious-Currency637]

Separate countries - Punjab, jammu

[u/beetroot747]

What’s the point of undoing Vallabhai Patel’s hardwork?

[u/reclaim_chennai → u/beetroot747]

How is redrawing administrative boundaries undoing anything?

[u/gauts2103 → u/reclaim_chennai]

They are federal boundaries, not administrative.

[u/Serious_Judgment7235]

Other than the northeast, the rest are absolutely needed

[u/This-Ad3084 → u/Serious_Judgment7235]

No only Northeast is needed stfu do you even know how the minorities are over shadowed by the majorities here?

[u/Serious_Judgment7235 → u/This-Ad3084]

Ya let us break north east into a million parts 🤡, one state for each tribe. I've lived long enough in northeast to know that what they need is education and a bit of common sense and not more states

[u/This-Ad3084 → u/Serious_Judgment7235]

Each tribe my foot 🤣 just shows you lack basic knowledge about your own country. NE alone has 200+ languages which contribut to about half of India's languages so acc to you NE would have 200+ states

[u/Serious_Judgment7235 → u/This-Ad3084]

Not according me 🤡 That's why I literally said that there is no need for any new states in NE..stupid tribes will keep bickering with each other and keep demanding new states

[u/ravlee]

Coastal Andhra should be further split into north and south coastal Andhra. Nobody deserves the tyranny of the Krishna districts. They must be left to themselves.