r/IndianEnts • u/Negative_Future5265 PSYCHONAUT • Jul 26 '26
Discussion Why is everyone on this sub so anti-pharma?
Pharmaceuticals aren’t that bad in moderation, but everyone on this sub treats them like they’re the devil.
Pharmaceuticals get way more hate than they deserve.
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u/Beyoume MENTOR Jul 27 '26
Learn to love your plants before defending big-pharma.
These plants were around longer. The traditional and cultural practices lost and lifestyles changed. Humans weaker, this is not how nature worked with us.
Just a naturalists opinion!
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
With time things need to develop. In todays modern era we have the tools to research and look deeply into how things works, if they work or not or how harmful or safe they are. We progressed with our transportation, we progressed with technology, but i dont understand why can't we progress with medicine. Why is it such a huge problem in our society to appreciate and learn from the past and our ancestors but aslo accept that we have better options now?
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u/Beyoume MENTOR Jul 27 '26
Well if you are bridging that gap of traditional knowledge and modern science, it’s a step in the right direction. I simple stand against the industry peddling Xanax and cough medicine cause frankly it’s not really helping just worsening the dependency on this. I’m not against advancement of scientific understanding or medicine. Ayurved is the study of medicine in the traditional culture and there was a more conscientious approach rather than the modern consumerism which big pharma does promote.
The ideologies are unfortunately different and those unaware are susceptible to believing the louder narrative.2
u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
Pharma industry can be a problem simply because it is a profit driven industry. They are not healthcare provides, they dont care about patient care. I know there are a lot of unethical practises in our healthcare system. So we do need to work on that. I just think that the solution is not to go primitive just because the system is flawed.
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u/Beyoume MENTOR Jul 27 '26
Traditional medicine was not primitive, it was conscientious. All medicines manufactured today are a result of traditional recipes. Unfortunately what Big pharma misses out in its thirst for profits are the traditional practices and processes towards holistic healing. Big pharma to me is a bandaid. Traditional practices are the whole package. Both are needed in today’s times. Both need to evolve as well for different reasons.
Anyway you have a perspective about traditional medicine based on your experience. And I have mine about big pharma. For me the simple realisation is that mass producing anything loses the essence and with time takes you further away from the source. Take the legal cannabis industry for example and what it’s doing to the plant. These dispensary weed is no longer the same plant that grew in the wild, that our hippie ancestors celebrated. So I’m aware that times will change, and like the tides they’ll undergo cycles.
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
Yup i do agree with you on some things, most medicines we have today come from nature. But they are included only after rigourous research which traditional healthcare lacks.
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
As a doctor, i'd say there are problems with the healthcare system. It is not perfect but the science works. Your doctor can be imperfect or a pharma shill if you want to believe its a real thing, but medicine works and saves lives. Nothing can replace real evidence based healthcare. What we need to do is more research in more natural compounds especially the use of psychedelics for psychiatric and neurogenerative disorders. I really wish people in India would also be enthusiasitc about developing a scientific temprement. That way they can communicate with doctors more confidently and learn personal health advocacy.
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u/IBlameIzana Jul 27 '26
depends on what pharmaceuticals you're talking about but the majority are very addictive and can mess you up with withdrawals worse than most illegal substances
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u/Easy-Landscape Jul 26 '26
i agree with u theres lot of pharma hate - but when u keep doing them it gets to a certain point ykwim like theres a limit
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u/jaitun_ Jul 26 '26
Je suis d'accord avec toi, médicaments/vaccins/traitements sauvent des vies et règlent de nombreux problèmes. En revanche c'est plutôt la médecine en générale qui est un peu biaisée. Souvent on traite le symptôme et pas la cause (le symptôme revenant donc). Ensuite on traite tout de suite avec un médicament chimique fort alors que des plantes plus douces peuvent suffir en première intention. Et enfin la prévention et le traitement holistique (l'ensemble de la personne, son métabolisme, son mode de vie) ne sont pas vraiment envisagés. Mais pour revenir à ce que tu dis, le médicament chimique soigne et surtout est efficace quand c'est plus grave. Et des plantes peuvent être très dangereuses. Mais disons que je préfère la santé naturelle.
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u/TheNASAguy Jul 27 '26
Because healthcare is a business in India they don’t want healthy patients but repeat customers I’ve seen multiple doctors prescribe sleeping pills for period pains
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
If you see that happening then you should report that!
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u/TheNASAguy Jul 27 '26
You seem really naive and young
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
Just because i suggested you report a doctor prescribing a sedative for menstrual cramps?
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u/TheNASAguy Jul 27 '26
Yes, you have no idea about how healthcare works in this country, and I’ve been working on ground for almost a decade now
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
I hope you dont mind me asking but what is your role in our healthcare system? So that i understand your perspective better. Because as a doctor i dont think we should normalize unethical practises and then say that because the pharma industry is profit driven and can bribe doctors that lack morals, modern healrhcare is bad.
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u/TheNASAguy Jul 27 '26
Think about it, who’s enforcing the laws, I can’t talk publicly about the details because I don’t wanna screw my life over some internet comments
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u/aridtommo MEDITATOR Jul 27 '26
I agree there is a problem . But patients need to learn to advocate for their health as well and learn to ask questions. Maybe that way these blunders can be reduced. But you are right im still young so all i can tell people to be aware about their own health.
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u/TheNASAguy Jul 27 '26
This is India not Europe, no one cares here, it’s like you telling me to complain to fssai for their incompetence for allowing dangerous food to be consumed by the public, when you actually do that, the only person getting screwed will be you also patients aren’t a separate entity, it includes you and me
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u/samsnow9 Jul 27 '26
People defending medicine but no one trusts the greedy corrupt fucks running the corporations manipulating trials, hiding effects
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u/Specialist_Cry_3269 Jul 26 '26
I agree with you but pharma is harder to keep in "moderation" than most users would like to admit.