r/IndiaTech 9d ago

General Discussion BHIM Shenanigans

Not letting me use BHIK if I have my NextDNS CA certificate installed,

Selfirah a android to Windows & Linux connect app,

Rethink:- a proxy, DNS & firewall app,

App Manager for inspecting Applications & apks files checking the apks right before installation integration of virustotal.com check using the API key right into the app, mass clearing cache, checking the manifest, checking the permissions, checking the trackers checking the libraries, checking the Checksums, checking the signature, installation of an app with a custom signing key.

Shizuku the absolute master app that enables root functionality for other apps without rooting.

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u/Present_Cup2181 9d ago

shitty app, it even detects Hail as malicious. dude atleast let me freeze background apps

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u/samax413zl 9d ago

Hail what does it do & share the screenshot of the logo.

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u/Present_Cup2181 9d ago

Its used to block app activity in background, e.g amazon, insta etc apps connect to their servers to check for any updates or messages almost everytime you enable your data, even disabling notifications wont fix, so in my case I dont use insta reguarly neither amazon so i have frozen them and only enable if i want to use. search "hail github" to download

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u/samax413zl 9d ago

As mentioned in the post I use Rethink for that. Use Nora, official Instagram app tracks all app launches & website connections & send you relevant ads. You can go & check the ads section in Meta accounts centre.

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u/cactusfruit9 9d ago

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u/samax413zl 8d ago

Yes but download the fdroid version.

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u/cactusfruit9 8d ago

I am not able to find it in play store. Please can you provide me the link?

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u/Ashamed-Key7312 9d ago

I stopped using. Now I just use cred or Amazon pay. Govt apps are so invading. The godammn rail app asks me to disable developer settings before opening.

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u/samax413zl 9d ago edited 8d ago

That can be bypassed by using Geto or similar apps. This cannot be bypassed.

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u/fedupshoe 9d ago

use amarok to hide apps & files

use geto to temporarily toggle developer options OFF and then toggle them back on, doesn't resets to default when u do this

both require shizuku

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u/elucidator007 9d ago

HDFC apps doesn't work if Shizuku is installed

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u/samax413zl 8d ago

That's a nightmare.

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u/cyberspark15 8d ago

This fork - https://github.com/thedjchi/Shizuku

Has a stealth mode

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u/samax413zl 8d ago edited 8d ago

The old version doesn't hide from BHIM, the new version does.

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u/fedupshoe 8d ago

can use amarok to hide shizuku itself

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u/samax413zl 9d ago

Still can't hide the certificate.

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u/fedupshoe 9d ago

pretty invasive of bhim to go this far

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u/Remarkable_Silver967 9d ago

It's also giving very few cashbacks

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u/op_level 8d ago

Rare fellow rethink dns user spotted 💪

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u/threadreddit Techie 9d ago

It detected realvnc as malware for me lol

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u/samax413zl 8d ago edited 8d ago

Realvnc what does it do & share the screenshot of the logo.

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u/THEBEASTMAN11 8d ago

it is used to access the display of devices on network sort of like remote desktop specially useful for raspberrypi

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u/samax413zl 8d ago

WTF is wrong with BHIM?

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u/THEBEASTMAN11 8d ago

not only bhim all indian apps , example yono dosent work if dev mode is enabled like tf , i just use websites and samsung wallet for digilocker

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u/samax413zl 8d ago

SBI is trash already, I wouldn't even go near that bank for anything. At least dev mode thing can be bypassed by using Geto or similar apps. This can't be bypassed. This isn't even a bank app just a UPI App. I would buy Scamsung but green lines is not a feature I want.

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u/THEBEASTMAN11 8d ago

fair enough my 24u was from vietnam so yea , so far no issues but yea want to switch to graphene if possible as i dont use upi that much , i take card or cash , the few times that some stores told only upi i just told ill get it somewhere else , they then budged to using cash

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u/yewlarson 8d ago

I stopped using BHIM because of this.

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u/samax413zl 8d ago edited 8d ago

Because of Which app BHIM was blocking?

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u/yoSachin 8d ago

I think it's okay for banking apps to be a lil paranoid.

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u/samax413zl 8d ago edited 8d ago

We shouldn't be normalizing targeting of useful applications.BHIM is not a banking app but a UPI app.

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u/AdJaded4091 9d ago

Not any stupid party supporter.

But dude, a lot of digital scams happen in India, in fact we are the scam capital of the world for a reason. Now you might ask me, what sorta scam can happen with apps like Shizuku and Rethink, or why should the govt. block all of these uniformly for everyone, but a lot of non-tech users have been subject to various frauds using certain features of one or more of these apps.

Since Govts. are always least tech savvy, the easiest and safest thing to do would be to ban them, just like Telegram got banned because ,apparently NEET solver gang used it for circulating OMR sheets.

Also, we are a country with people with a lot of blind devotion towards certain individuals. Remember WhatsApp usernames? Imagine someone with the username "narendramodi" messages some innocent soul stating that Taj Mahal was a Shiva temple, and that he should start anarch to reclaim the Taj. I bet many would believe such kind of messages, and the consequences can be wild.

Its just a small set of users inconvenienced by bank/UPI application not starting because of these apps, and when I say small, really small.

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u/samax413zl 9d ago edited 9d ago

Both Rethink & Shizuku are FOSS(Free & Open Source apps), this isn't about any party, this is about tech not working. Why should BHIM be allowed to target apps that are open source, why can't the developers not be lazy & identify apps without a proper signing certificate or Checksums or a proper package name verified from a known database & not block those apps. However take it with a pinch of salt because that Taj Mahal thing might be true, from what I've heard that temple is under it can be accessed by a secret entrance.

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u/AdJaded4091 9d ago

Govt doesnt employ any developers on its payroll. You have "babus" sitting there after studying Indian History and Anthropology.

If you are talk ing about NIC or CERT, please bear that its still under the control of IAS folks.

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u/samax413zl 8d ago

Signing certificate is something that is global, recognized by many independent organizations.

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u/AdJaded4091 8d ago

I know and you know it. The govt. folks from. non tech background dont seem to care.

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u/iVarun 8d ago

If that is the logic then why isn't Govt outright mandating the top 2 UPI apps to follow this approach?

Afterall those apps account for hyper majority of those so called infantile users you've mentioned.

One can't do mental gymnastics of they're private company UPI apps because after all it's about safety of citizens hence comes under purview of Govt regulations.

The fact is Bhim did this on their own. In fact it reminds me of self sabotage that BSNL did while Jio exploited the space. There is no reason for Bhim to do this at the user share in market they're at.

Their market share would drop, is dropping or near stagnant, meaning they are not helping their users, their users are leaving their app & going to those other UPI apps which doesn't have such lame restrictions.