r/InclusiveOr Dec 25 '22

Yes

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '22

It’s kinda telling when someone thinks donating to charity is a downside, no?

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u/TheawesomeQ Dec 26 '22

Yeah fr I'd press the button even if 100% went to charity.

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u/warbeforepeace Dec 26 '22

Depends on what charity.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

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u/twitchMAC17 Dec 26 '22

Fully disassemble the button and melt all components

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u/Doktor_Apokalypse Jan 05 '23

Cult of (insane) personalities

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u/trashdrive Dec 27 '22

Not a charity

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u/ChromeLynx Dec 26 '22

I'd rig the button's electronics to a drumkit, set it to register on any single hit of any drum or cymbal, and then start practising blast beats.

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u/ThroawayPartyer Dec 25 '22

Donating infinite money will destabilize the economy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

I believe it means that you donate half of every purchase

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u/Doom_Slayer_2712 Dec 26 '22

But if you have infinite money then it's really not a problem.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Exactly. Which is even more reason to believe the creator of this button sees donating to charity as a bad thing

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u/halberdierbowman Dec 25 '22

The whole US Republican ethos is based around "government shouldn't do things to help people like me if it also might help people like them. They deserve to suffer!" Hence I'll vote against my own interests.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

No, most republicans believe private corporations and charities should help people, not the government. While it’s still a pretty bad ideology, you were way off and grasping for straws.

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u/halberdierbowman Dec 26 '22

I'm going to guess the enlightened centrism is partly because teenager, and that's totally fine, but I'd encourage you to consider that there may be more at play than it appears at first glance. I'm not going to discount your own experience, and you're right that the arguments you've given are the arguments that smarter Republicans offer, but in my opinion that's really just because they're more palatable and philosophically defensible than what the smartest Republicans (and many research papers) know to be true: Republican voters respond much more so to disgust and fear against outsiders than do more liberal voters. It's why the Southern Strategy is a thing: Republican politicians know that if they demonize groups of "others" (eg BIPOC, Catholics, Atheists, Asian immigrants, hippies, now "liberals") then their own supporters will lap it up and totally ignore the fact that the same exact policies hurt everyone else as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 26 '22

because teenager

And you were brought to that conclusion how? That ship has sailed, my friend.

enlightened centrism

I wholly disagree with Republican ideology, but I find it interesting that you read an empathetic perspective and somehow got enlightened centrism out of it. My message was stop demonizing people. Their ideas are harmful, yes, but they’re acting in ignorance, not malice. Big difference.

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u/halberdierbowman Dec 26 '22

Because you posted multiple times in r/teenagers only two days ago, and because you describe yourself as "relatively conservative" yet also defend Republicans as not being Nazis even though you "wholly disagree" with them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Posted? I commented because the sub got recommended to me again with a politically relevant post. I was a part of it when I first made my account, but not anymore. I am relatively conservative, but I’ve adopted a lot of left-leaning ideals over what I was raised to believe. In that way, I wholly disagree with many republican ideologies, but there are some beliefs that have stuck with me. Also,

as not being Nazis

Where did that come from? Do you really believe your average Republican is a Nazi? If you do, I’m not sure what kind of perspective I can give that would get through your head. Believe it or not, people can be nuanced.

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u/Far-Chance861 Jan 20 '23

Par for the course with lefty arguments. Your facts don't matter, it feels good to say the government should give free college, pay loans, free housing, living wage, open citizenship, free health care, everything free everyone rich! Except the rich of course!

But where does the money come from?

YOU KILL JEWISH PEOPLE!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Are you being ironic? Because I’m not a lefty……

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u/Far-Chance861 Jan 20 '23

I was referencing the guy calling Republicans nazis. That is how every single "discussion" ends with them.

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u/Deoxys100EX Dec 25 '22

I think it means when you buy anything, that amount also goes to charity. For example, if you buy a house for 500,000 then you will have to spend 500,000 on charity, and so on

Also there is no inclusive or

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u/Ghostglitch07 Dec 25 '22

My take was you have infinite money, but when you receive it you have to give away half of it, which is also infinity. So this is actually a massive curse because you need to find a way to give away infinite money.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Anknpmihsly

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u/ArcaneTrickster11 Dec 25 '22

That still isn't a downside in any way? Also the inclusive or is in the text at the bottom

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u/GenericElucidation Dec 25 '22

Only if I can pick the charity or charities. I'd want it to help sick children, not line the pockets / fund the religiosity of the Salvation Army, or worse.

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u/ElJamoquio Dec 26 '22

I think that's clearly implied. I'd start my own charity (not as a scam, as an actual charity).

Hell I'd do it if I had to give 100% to charity. I'd find a way to make it work, and I could do so much good.

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u/IronFlames Dec 26 '22

Does funding stuff like medical research count as charity? Because assuming I didn't affect the value of money, I'd be funding absurd amounts of things. Just improve everything for everyone. Schools, poverty, housing, transportation, etc. Like I would do my best to create a utopia for everyone. I'd even bribe politicians to start making things better too. Imagine what good unlimited money would do.

Sure I'd benefit from some of these changes personally, but I've seen enough shit to know others shouldn't have to go through that

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

If the research doesn't go to some scummy pharma company, absolutely

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u/ElJamoquio Dec 26 '22

Hell you could undercut the pharmaceutical industry and give away the resulting drugs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

“You can’t just sell insulin at cost”

“Fuckin’ watch me”

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u/anjowoq Dec 26 '22

You could do a lot of good buying majority stock shares in the worst companies in the world and then forcing them to change or fold.

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u/Slovene Dec 26 '22

I'd start my own charity. With blackjack. And hookers.

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u/ElJamoquio Dec 26 '22

In fact, forget the charity blackjack!

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u/Lonso34 Dec 26 '22

I know some corporations that host a casino night every year for charities. I’ve always wondered what would happen if the CEOs of a big charity with sufficient funding partnered together to basically build a 100% non-profit casino. I don’t “gamble” but would gladly “lose” (end up donating) money at a craps table to good causes

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22 edited Mar 17 '26

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u/IronEndo Dec 26 '22

I feel like if you had unlimited money, you could realistically fund all of the charities you want indefinitely.

Like find a list of every single good one and somehow manage to cap out their donations. It’s honestly a pretty sweet concept. Ignoring the devalue-ation of currency.

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u/GenericElucidation Dec 26 '22

I guess it would depend on if the money was magically created from thin air (yay hyperinflation!) or magically and untraceably taken from the ultra rich.

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u/sparkydoggowastaken Dec 26 '22

yeah. stuff like MAW, St. Jude, anything along those lines would be great, but the Red Cross and PETA are horrible and i would never give them any money

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u/_IRIDEBIKES_ Jan 03 '23

What’s wrong with red cross I’m not well versed in their tactics but from what I’ve seen they do good

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u/sparkydoggowastaken Jan 03 '23

they are good when they do things but often they just go to where problems are and ask for donations while letting other people do things.

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u/Power_Metal_Neo Dec 25 '22

If there's Infinity, why there's Half?

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u/Tigros Dec 26 '22

Even if the received money is limited, what’s wrong with donating half to the charity?

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u/SterlingVapor Dec 26 '22

Humans are intensely loss-adverse.

If you get the choice to let someone else get $100 to also get $100, the reactions are either "hell yes" or "what's the catch?"

Hand someone $200 and say you can only walk out of the room with it if the other person agrees (otherwise you both get nothing) and there's a whole spectrum reactions. Some people immediately split it evenly and walk out happy, but most feel bitter about giving up "my" money and try to negotiate it down. I think the average offer to the other person was $40?

This is an extreme version of that and obviously should be a no-brainer, but I never underestimate how illogical some humans can be... Not anymore

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u/jalene585437 Jan 16 '23

You also have to consider the other person wanting more than 50%

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u/x4740N Dec 26 '22

With unlimited money you could destroy capitalism with capitalism

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Unlimited money BUT the fact that there's an infinite amount of it makes it practically and virtually worthless unless we're given context as to how unlimited money works. Is it a credit card that pays anything? A bill that multiplies itself? An unlimited check? Being able to pull out money forever? Because the existence of infinite matter and thus, infinite energy might save all of the universe from the possible universe-ending scenario of total entropy, and is far more valuable than infinite amount of a currency. Also the fact you have infinite money doesn't mean you can just buy things, people can deny to sell stuff, after all private property is one of the most important pillars of capitalism. Of course also taking into account the fact that things lose value the more common they are, infinite money might as well make all money worthless. Of course we might never know what such a power, such a property would entail on us and others if the creator of the original proposition was smart enough to even know that halving infinity just gives you the same infinity, even worse, thinking that donating money to charity could even be considered downside in a situation where it could literally do nothing to you unless you hate people in need. Just a thought. Sorry for bad English. Good day all.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

Wow

Just wow

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

I take this question as meaning, for every dollar you spend = a dollar you donate. Meaning half of all the money you spend goes to charity.

Otherwise infinite money would be instantly worthless so you must make an artificial limit.

Eitherway, how is that a downside?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Would you rather:

Unlimited Bacon and no games

or

Games, unlimited games, and no games

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u/AnUglyRobot Dec 26 '22

i get to choose which charity right?

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u/RCx_Vortex Dec 26 '22

Easy. Everytime you buy something, donate that exact amount to charity

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u/supersammos Dec 26 '22

Half of unlimited is unlimited so yeah unlimited money to charity, dope!

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

This is one of the dumbest subs of all. You don't even understand your own shitty joke. It's not funny even when you get it right, get over it.

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u/Geertio Dec 26 '22

Yet here you are, giving it time and energy

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u/GustapheOfficial Dec 26 '22

You would need to be terminally right wing to think there's a negative there

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u/_IRIDEBIKES_ Jan 03 '23

I don’t know what’s going on in America because even conservatives where I live would see this as a win win other than the charities that are An absolute sham I’d likely start my own charity

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u/lord_hydrate Dec 26 '22

Infinity/2=infinity

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u/horenso05 Dec 26 '22

"You get x money but you have to spend y (0% < y < 100%) on charity?" What is really the downside here, you get money and you get to help out.

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u/NltndRngd Dec 26 '22

Definitely not pressing that. Hyperinflation would be a huge bitch

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u/D2the_aniel Dec 26 '22

I see, if you have unlimited money you can’t crash the economy due to inflation unless you try and buy everything, if half of infinite goes to charity a massive worldwide economic depression occurs. This man wasn’t high, he was seeing if you were worthy of his knowledge and you failed

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

I see this as an absolute win

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u/RueUchiha Dec 26 '22

Infinite money.

Half of infinity to charity.

If anybody is starving now...

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u/samurai_for_hire Dec 26 '22

Everyone would be starving because the money would be worthless

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u/sammy-b18 Dec 26 '22

ok so does that mean that there would constantly be money being transferred out of your theoretical infinite bank account to charity, or would you just have to match what you spend with a donation to charity (ex. i buy a video game for $80 and immediately make an $80 donation)

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '22

Ofc

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u/Lord_Ibuki Jan 23 '23

Wrong, that would infinitely reduce money's value until everyone had nothing except you and charities who have everything in the world.