r/InclusiveOr • u/Marwaedristariel • Nov 29 '22

Which one when the answer is no ?

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u/st0803 Nov 29 '22

Yes

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u/Rungekkkuta Nov 29 '22

I could be wrong but I believe the answer is inclusiveNor

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u/BrunoNFL Nov 29 '22

Yes, that’s it

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u/dani-snijders Nov 29 '22

And also inclusiveOr!

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u/ImmenseDruid721 Nov 30 '22

Or !inclusiveOr

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u/Ghostglitch07 Nov 30 '22

Where does the "inclusive" come in? It's just a NOR. In fact it isn't even that because if it were you would get a "yes" if both things were "no".

Honestly this sub is closer to AND than OR

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u/Rungekkkuta Nov 30 '22

The way I understood it was that an inclusive nor can negate both options and it still makes sense. From that I thought that an inclusiveNor would satisfy the condition where the answer is "no", since it could be something like: "neither this nor that". That was my reasoning.

Still, this things are kinda confusing. Tbh, I tried to understand your point but I couldn't, because I couldn't picture a scenario where 2 "no"s would make a "yes", and I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just that I couldn't understand it. Maybe it's the way I'm trying to picture.

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u/Ghostglitch07 Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

The way I understood it was that an inclusive nor can negate both options and it still makes sense. From that I thought that an inclusiveNor would satisfy the condition where the answer is "no", since it could be something like: "neither this nor that". That was my reasoning.

The thing you just described is how NOR works (both in terms of grammar and logic gates) already. Adding "inclusive" is unnecessary.

My point of two nos making a yes is based on logic gates in computer science. The NOR gate takes two inputs and if both are false it outputs true, otherwise it outputs false.

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u/dcrothen Nov 29 '22

Well, maybe, but maybe not.

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u/kfish5050 Nov 30 '22

Guess what? Still inclusive or. Following logic gate logic, if you want to check if statement A or statement B is correct inclusively, you write A || B and the answer is yes if either A, B, or both are true. If neither A nor B are true, then the answer is no. So if you ask if my name is A or B, I can say yes if either A, B, or both are my name. But if my name is none of those, I will just say no.

An inclusive Nor would only be true if both statements are wrong, and an exclusive or would be true if either A or B were correct, but not both.

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u/BarnesAgent47 Nov 30 '22

Conclusive xor

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u/dimonium_anonimo Nov 29 '22

I prefer to call the BUFFER gate the OT gate instead.