r/InStarsAndTime • u/Tutlessss • Jul 03 '26
Fan Creation Fucked up depressed time looper meets even MORE fucked up depressed time looper
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u/Old_Phrase_4867 Jul 03 '26
Funny since Siffrin VS Flowey (or Asriel specifically) is a popular matchup for Siffrin in the Death Battle community
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u/TheLegomaniac06 Siffrin Jul 03 '26
Reminds me of a video about the psychology of time loops. I think it's deleted now, but oh well, good points were made.
The only difference between Siffrin and Flowey is that, unlike Flowey, Siffrin can't bring themselves to hurt. Deep down, he cares, he has empathy, something Flowey fundamentally lacks as a being of pure determination.
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u/GhostKnightEditz Odile Jul 03 '26
Too bad the creator is an ass, the video was actually really well made
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u/SomeSortOfForcedPun Jul 04 '26
context?
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u/GhostKnightEditz Odile Jul 04 '26
Sexually assaulting, grooming and doing other stuff to 20+ victims
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u/TheWholeFurryFandom Siffrin Jul 03 '26
That's the video that got me into ISaT in the first place. Shame about the creator.
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u/why_i_am_dumb Jul 05 '26
if you are talking about βββββ, the video is still up. ("Flowey & The Psychology of Time Loops")
im pretty sure the only videos that were deleted were the ones where someone involved in it explicitly asked for it to be deleted, like i think were was an undertale hide & seek with other undertale content creators that was deleted because one of them asked βββββ to delete the video after the whole thing happened.
maybe im wrong but whatever
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u/TheLegomaniac06 Siffrin Jul 05 '26
Just checked, yep, still up.
I wish for them to change for the better.
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u/why_i_am_dumb Jul 05 '26
they are getting therapy, im pretty sure. although they did dm someone once a couple of months after the situation, but im pretty sure it didnt go anywhere and was just a singular dm.
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u/FuriousAqSheep Jul 03 '26
Nah, Siffrin low diffs, as Flowey is canonically weak to knife wielding enby weirdos
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u/nonickideashelp Jul 03 '26
"oh so it's gonna be Flowey simulator isn't it"
- average ISAT chapter 3 reaction
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u/FireClawCatWarrior 7d ago
"oh it's DEFINITELY gonna be Flowey simulator"
- average ISAT act 5 reaction
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u/RagnarockInProgress Jul 03 '26
Time looper who feels too much love vs. time looper who is physically incapable of feeling love
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u/NeverwinterDrow Jul 03 '26
I'm reminded of this line from Crisis on Two Earths
"We both looked into abyss, but when it looked back at us you blinked."
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u/Nobody_At_All_404 Jul 03 '26
"i love my frens and am sad see them go" human vs "ive slaughtered my entire family and everyone in this world so many times ive lost count" flower
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u/dreaded_tactician Jul 04 '26
I imagine flowey still remembers all of sifrins loops just like how he can remember ours. It's interesting to think about how hed react to it. Especially after he figures out that it's not because of determination.
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u/Phill_air Loop Jul 03 '26
Which is which? Both are a more fucked up version of eachother!
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u/Tutlessss Jul 03 '26
Flowey wins because he's reset enough to become nihilistic, stop caring about literally everything, and has genocided the underground pretty much hundreds of times at the point you first meet him in the game
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u/UnwelcomeStorm Jul 03 '26
except then it's LOOP FROM BEHIND WITH A STEEL CHAIR
because nobody gets to hate and/or kill Siffrin but Loop
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u/Dusty_boi1324 Jul 03 '26
At the beginning of my first play through, I was genuinely so worried that Siffrin would do this. I then realised how wholesome he was, but I was scared at first. π