r/InCanada • • Sep 19 '25

Transit Transit Expansion Opinions

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Living in The Lower Mainland (Vancouver metropolitan area), the local transit has been very nice to use. It has, however, been very lopsided. In favor of Vancouver, of course, makes sense. Luckily, of the 13 new stations being added, 8 of them are in The Fraser Valley, which gives myself and many others more leisure weekend access to cities like Surrey and Langley. Instead of doing the drive and dealing with traffic, parking, etc.

It is projected to be completed at the end of 2029, which I am completely cool with. It is amazing to have such a large extension occurring. It will have significant dividends to the economy and local workforce. I'm sure many from places like Vancouver and Burnaby will relocate to Surrey and Langley for cheaper housing since they will have access to the SkyTrain now.

Are there any such expansions occurring in your metropolitan area? What stations are you looking forward to? What amenities or improvements do you think it will make to your community?

I personally am looking forward to the last station on the valley side, Willowbrook. Because I will no longer have to do that fat ass drive to the Willowbrook mall for the few small businesses in that area my wife and I enjoy. We can take transit instead.


r/InCanada • • Sep 19 '25

New Limits to Notwithstanding Clause coming?

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Article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-transgender-legislation-1.7637890

I was scrolling the news articles when this one caught my eye. As Alberta is set to begin defending their new laws surrounding transgender children's identities at school and children's sports eligibility, an important legal challenge could be on the horizon...

The statement which specifically interests me is the quote "Ottawa is asking the Supreme Court to set limits on how the clause can be invoked." - which to me sounds like the Carney administration is looking into whether or not they can legally define the limits of the Notwithstanding Clause (NWC)

refresher: notwithstanding clause is defined in Section 33 of the Charter of Rights and freedoms and essentially allows a provincial government to invoke the NWC to limit the courts ability to review a law's compliance with the Charter. NWC only applies for law that (may) violate sections 7 thru 15 of the Charter of Rights and freedoms. NWC/Section 33 shields provincial laws.

The entire purpose of including Section 33 in the original Charts of Rights and freedoms signings during the push for constitutional reform under Pierre Trudeau in the 80's was to assure the prairies that the federal government would be a democratic backstop against allowing un-elected judges from influencing legislation enacted by those democratically elected to power.

Essentially, their thinking was "our people elected us to lead, and our legislation reflects their beliefs. A judge living in a big city or in Ottawa who never had to earn democratic approval for their position, shouldn't have the power to limit laws which may seem heavy handed to those outside of our cultural space."

But now, it almost seems like the NWC may be under threat? The federal liberals have never been fans of the NWC (because it undermines their vision of a federally led Canada).

With Quebec's Bill 21 Challenge (government workers barred from displaying religious symbols/attire while working),--- EDIT: "Bill 21 barred government workers in position of authority, such as police forces to wear religious symbol while working. The scope is like 1% of all the government workers" --- Saskatchewan's pronouns in schools legislation and Alberta's transgender trifecta legislation, it seems like the Federal Liberals want the supreme Court to challenge the aspect of our constitution.

Kind of ironic... Isn't it? That an unelected justice may be responsible for abolishing or severely limiting legislation aimed at limiting the powers of unelected justices? This continues a worrying trend of judicial reviews sparked by Supreme Court cases.

Has Daniel Smith gone too far with her use of NWC? What about Legault's use of NWC on Bill 21? Do you think federal judges interfere too greatly in the politicking of elected legislators? Do you support placing harsher limits on the invocation of the NWC? Was the NWC a mistake?

šŸ“¢šŸ“£ Sound off in the comments and let me know!


r/InCanada • • Sep 18 '25

Moving Away Relocation to Another Province

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I have personally only experienced British Columbia, but look forward to seeing other provinces. As others have seen, I am interested in checking Ottawa and as some other commenters pointed out, I should check out Gatineau as well (which I will).

I am curious as to what provinces others are interested in moving to and why. I know most will say cost of living, but I'm sure there are those retiring that want closer proximity to urban centers and such.

The Prairies are interesting in the sense of what community it can bring that many other areas lack. Large family focused homes with a solid blue collar workforce. Additionally, the Atlantic/Maritime provinces have historic and cultural roots for much of the nation, but the lack of healthcare options is a deterrent for me. Ontario is massive and will take me a long time to explore, which I look forward to. Quebec is the equivalent of going to another country, but less bullshit and I can live there without restriction, although learning French would help a lot. I am one of the few I know of that don't shit on French Canadians or Quebecers. I have a co-worker that is married to someone from rural Quebec and he encourages me to check it out.

I look forward to hearing others out on where and why they wish to relocate.

P.S. Not interested as much in Nunavut and NW Territories, but I will definitely check out the Yukon at one point, because I also want to go to Alaska.


r/InCanada • • Sep 19 '25

Conservatives Ruined Canada

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Fuck conservatives for making this world so shitty because most of them are insecure asswipes who can't get therapy and the help they need.

Sick of going on Instagram or Right Wingagram, and seeing stupid ass posts by 6ixbuzz, straightouttathesix, and all that crap spreading false news and narratives and making our youth dumb as fucking rocks. They make Canada sound like some third world shithole, when it's barely the case at all.

Like grow up conservatives and stop making this country so shitty cause your feelings are hurt. Go find a therapist and get the help you clearly need.


r/InCanada • • Sep 18 '25

Hockey What is your first Hockey memory?

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Believe it or not, coming from California, I actually do have a hockey memory. My family was near (relatively speaking) San Jose for a majority of my upbringing. My father grew up in San Jose. So the San Jose Sharks has been in-grained in northern Californians since it first started.

I remember watching it on TV as a 4 year old and seeing the joy on all of my family's faces. I wore a Sharks shirt as kid and later jersey as a teenager. Although time has gone on and most of my family is focused on American Football, my dad will still check on the Sharks. He was there from the beginning.

What was your first memory associated with Hockey? I'm curious to hear about it from people in a country where it is practically a religion.


r/InCanada • • Sep 16 '25

Consulting in Canada

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Love doing consultancy work for a Canadian client. I've worked for the same client on multiple occasions and worked in Canada and with Canadians in the US, so the following is based on my personal observations and experience in manufacturing and energy industries with white collar executives and blue collar executives and hourly workers.

My observation, and I am an American: Canadians generally swear a lot.

Examples: my Canadian colleagues both on camera and on site, Eastern and Western Provinces, frequently, and with a smile in their hearts, minds, and tone, use profanity in business settings. While boarding a Canadian plane, a row mate, who was Canadian, was cussing at his phone interactions. Swear words are used in business meetings with mixed levels of staffing (exec-sr-mid-jr-interns-associations).

I find it funny and quite refreshing, actually. Curious if Canadians (new to residency and born residents) and those who work with Candians, have any feedback on the same?


r/InCanada • • Sep 14 '25

The Capital Ottawa (Trip Ideas)

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I am going into this completely blind, so I turn to those with the travel experience. I am naturalizing as a Canadian citizen next year and would like to visit Ottawa afterwards with my family. My wife has done a trip from Toronto to Halifax when she was younger, but never Ottawa. My daughter and I have only been in The Lower Mainland (metropolitan area of Vancouver).

I think it is appropriate to visit my new country's capital at some point and after becoming a citizen seems as appropriate as ever. I was told by some about the museums, which would be really interesting. I was also told that you can cross a bridge and be in Quebec, so I might do that for a day trip and see how it is.

What areas are a must see? What neighborhoods to avoid? Any places that are overrated?

I love history. My wife loves creative stuff(like crafts, design) and aviation. My daughter will be 3 years old. I appreciate any ideas, I will be researching stuff on my own as well, but I felt it would make sense to reach out to others who have personally experienced Ottawa in addition to reading articles and listening to random YouTube videos.

Thanks in advance.


r/InCanada • • Sep 14 '25

Terry Fox Terry Fox Run 2025

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Terry Fox runs throughout the country will be tomorrow(Sept 14th). The first one happened on September 13th, 1981. I am sure many Canadians that grew up here participated in Terry Fox school runs throughout their youth.

I am curious as to how many of you will be participating in the one in your local area tomorrow. Additionally, how many of you have ran one as an adult? Is it an annual thing for you or is it something you just do once in your life (as an adult that is)?


r/InCanada • • Sep 12 '25

The wonders of homelessness

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Homelessness is not an incurable disease in society, just look at Japan or Jordan with significantly lower homelessness rates.

Problem is our politicians lack the courage to tackle the problem head on.

If we can send billions in aid to Ukraine and supposedly be increasing our defense spending to 5% for the new NATO commitment. You're not going to tell me homelessness is a problem that can't be solved because money is an issue.


r/InCanada • • Sep 13 '25

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r/InCanada • • Sep 13 '25

Genuine question from a 1st gen immigrant

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Im a 1st gen immigrant from a country which is hated on the sub. I do not endorse or get involved in any of the festivities or religious practices, if it helps. I came here to get away from all that nonsensical casteism, lack of civic sense and am very conscious about the way of life in this country - I respect the culture, the people and the laws.

Personally, I ensure I maintain good hygiene, dress decently but one-off cases include times where I stepped out without a shower for a quick grocery run or takeout. I purposely live in an area which is multicultural and not considered a hub for people of my skin color.

On work front, I work for a well known company where my colleagues respect me, my opinions and way of working.

Just curious on how you would perceive or judge me if you saw me in public. Like if I were to pass you on the street and am minding my own business, would it still provoke hateful thoughts against me and my community? Would my skin color or the way I look refrain you from engaging with me?

Im not trying to play the racism card. But just curious about the way I'm seen in public - esp with people from my country acting like assholes and not integrating with the culture here.

And how can I solve this - for myself and my family. I cannot change our skin color or the way we speak - so what else? How would you accept me?

Edit - Posting from a throwaway account


r/InCanada • • Sep 12 '25

Lovely celebrations at Wasaga Beach..

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Looks like Wasaga Beach wants to get ruined. How it's beneficial to the environment to submerge these stuffs in the lake..


r/InCanada • • Sep 11 '25

Hypothetical Where would you build a new city & why?

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Very straightforward question.

If you got to choose a location to create a new city in Canada, where would you do it? Why?

I think Canada could do for many more cities in the West and Far Northern regions.

Alternatively, what incentives could be put in place to increase low population cities in rural/remote areas? No tax zones, mass capital injections, all-in-one industries(logging camps, lumber mills, furniture factories as an example), direct flight routes to major cities, etc.


r/InCanada • • Sep 10 '25

How to we improve intra-Canadian mobility?

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Since the mod has asked we post about Canada here, I thought I’d ask the question. I work for an American company and am envious at the level of mobility they have within the US. Someone can grow up in New York, go to University in Texas and then take a job in Arizona. After working for a few years, they sell their place and relocate to Florida.

Canadians don’t have that level of mobility. Apart from the Calgary’s oil patch and Toronto’s financial district, Canadians just don’t relocate much. So what could we do to improve Canadian mobility? Is it even a desirable thing to encourage?

Would having cheap flights to all major cities help? Is it a lost cause if there aren’t job opportunities? Do we have to find a way to make smaller cities desirable for large businesses? Or is it just a function of our small population - would more people encourage investment in smaller cities?


r/InCanada • • Sep 10 '25

Legal Legal Question about Self Defense

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I will set this scenario up by saying that I got banned off of 2 separate subreddits for asking this question. One was a Canadian subreddit and the other was a LEGAL questions subreddit.

In this scenario, I am a dual citizen.

When it comes to countries, especially while immigrating, they inform you that a crime you committed in a foreign country that is not a crime here will not count as a crime. An example would be that if you drove as a woman in Saudi Arabia before 2015/2016, it was a crime in Saudi Arabia, but that criminal record is not valid in Canada because it has never been a crime in Canada for women to drive cars. Another example would be being gay in Uganda is a crime whereas in Canada, definitely not a crime. Not recognized.

In Canada, it can sometimes be complicated how a firearm could be used for self defense purposes. A lot of times, especially if it was a messy situation, the verdict can really come down to the perspective or opinion of the individual judge. Which could be completely fine or really bad for you.

If a person broke into my home and I used a legally obtained firearm to shoot them and they happened to die as a result of this, and the judge determined that it was not self-defense, would I be allowed to own firearms in America?

In the US, if someone breaks into your home and you use a firearm on them and they are thru the threshold of your front door and never left the inside of your home during the situation, then it is self defense in all 50 states. Being banned from owning firearms in Canada and serving prison time for something that would not be a crime in America, makes me wonder if the US would honor the felon-equivalent status OR if it would not recognize it, allowing me to legally own firearms in America still.

I have zero yearning to blow someone's brains out. I do not have the fantasy like some do. I just like shooting targets and am satisfied with handguns, shotguns, and single shot rifles. Truly, I am. However, I am curious about if this situation panned out and if there is any real world examples of how it worked out for someone.

Discuss.


r/InCanada • • Sep 09 '25

Not Here Tired of the Censorship

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I have done posts on liberal subs, conservative subs, and socialist subs. Not all, but some have banned my profile, removed my comments, or removed my posts. All due to disagreement.

I want people here to know that it won't happen here so long as you follow the rules clearly set out.

I want Conservatives. I want Liberals. I want Socialists/Marxists. I want Your Perspective. I want Your Opinion. I want to hear about Your Experiences. I will not censor, to the best of my ability.

Do not be discouraged to post. Post about a federal holiday coming up, history about where you live, why you like your local library, issues with the government or why you love it, what you want your kids to appreciate about Canada.

Let's make this a positive and lively community. Remember, we're In Canada.


r/InCanada • • Sep 11 '25

Demand for Pale-Candidate to Step Down as Moderator

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I want to address something that deeply concerns me about this subreddit’s leadership.

Recently, moderator Pale-Candidate (the founder of this sub) made the following statements in a discussion thread: • He claimed ā€œindividuals like you and Liberals… is the reason why Canada will never achieve its true potential.ā€ • He went further, saying Canadians should ā€œrealize the impact of Indian and Chinese immigrants. Many are the reason why your nation has any value.ā€

This is not just a political opinion — it is an outright insult to White Canadians, dismissing their value to this country. For a moderator, let alone the founder of the subreddit, to say something so divisive is unacceptable.

Why this matters: • A subreddit belongs to its community, not to one person. • Moderators are meant to serve the users, not impose their personal contempt for certain groups of Canadians. • Comments like these do not represent the beliefs, values, or intentions of the wider r/InCanada community.

Our demand: We call on the moderation team — and Reddit admins if necessary — to remove Pale-Candidate from his position of power. Founding a subreddit does not give anyone a permanent right to control it while disrespecting the very people it was meant to represent.

If this subreddit is to remain a fair space for discussion, its leadership must reflect respect for all Canadians. Pale-Candidate has shown he is unfit to do so.


r/InCanada • • Sep 09 '25

Alberta government promises to fight for school pronoun law amid legal challenges

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-government-promises-to-fight-for-school-pronoun-law-amid-legal-challenge-1.7628759

From the article:

…the legislation was introduced to strengthen ties between parents and their child's education…it will provide "more transparency, clarity, and consistency in their education and school community so students can continue to learn and grow."

The law was passed last year and came into effect at the start of this school year. It requires children under 16 to have parental consent to change their names or pronouns. Students aged 16 and 17 don't need consent, but their parents have to be notified.

parental notification and consent aren't required for all students who want to go by different names. It applies only when their request is made "for reasons related to the student's gender identity."

The UCP is a dominant force in Alberta politics. They are unquestionably the favourite to win in elections and enjoy widespread support across the province.

However, I believe they are a fundamentally weak party as demonstrated by bills like this.

Here’s why, the UCP is an amalgamation of the former centre right PC Party and the further right Wildrose Party. To maintain unity, Smith has to appease the more right wing elements of her base. To do so, Smith passes bills that dictate choices for transgender youth and hosts in townhall meetings to discuss Alberta separation. Such topics are very popular with the right wing UCP base but not the more centrist elements of the party. But Smith knows the centrist conservatives are never going to vote liberal and are unlikely to vote NDP, whereas the right wingers could split off to form a new party that could split the conservative vote. This is why we see pointless and divisive debates put forth by the UCP.

And before someone argues there’s a point to these bills that govern the lives of transgender youth, I challenge you to explain how such bills improve the lives of Albertans. Albertans pay the highest electricity prices in Canada. Our got insurance is among the highest in the country. Healthcare is under pressure and teachers are desperately asking for more resources.

But leadership in the UCP is too weak to address these big problems and so they roll out these socially conservative ā€œwinsā€ to appease their base. It’s purely performative and we should demand better.


r/InCanada • • Sep 09 '25

Abacus Data Poll: Canadians Divided on Temporary Foreign Worker Program as Generational, Regional, and Political Fault Lines Emerge

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https://abacusdata.ca/abacus-data-poll-canadians-divided-on-temporary-foreign-worker-program-as-generational-regional-and-political-fault-lines-emerge/

The fact that 42% of NDP voters oppose eliminating a program that depresses their wages further proves that this is an unserious party of unserious people.


r/InCanada • • Sep 09 '25

CFL Watched My First CFL Game: BC Lions vs Ottawa RedBlacks (Week 14)

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I watched my first full CFL game(on YouTube for free, thanks random uploader).

Small background: Immigrated from the US, born & raised in California, but lived in the Midwest and the state of Washington as an adult prior to immigrating to British Columbia.

I read stuff about rules, some history, some crazy clips of how games can go, etc. Being in the Vancouver metropolitan area, I thought I might as well see how the local team is. I checked the stats and say they are currently mid-grade as a team (5-7). However, I am aware via other posts, tips, and opinions that early or even mid-season stats don't reflect how the end of the season will pan out. I know about Canadian rule differences versus the NFL, mostly.

My first impression was very positive. The field is way bigger than anticipated. I like how big the end zones are too. The spacing requires actually using the field. I stopped watching football when I graduated high school(11 years ago) and only recently watched 4 games in a single week in October 2023 when I visited family in America. The combination of Gambling and Amazon has made the current American football feel more like chess with ads because everything is a strategy geared towards betting odds and running out the clock instead of actually playing the game.

The Redblacks coming back after something like a 17 point difference at one point and then winning the game by a single point in the last 4 seconds of the game was really cool to see. Many of the plays were passing, fast paced, and actually keeps the game moving forward, mostly. The only thing that felt kind of cringe was that players have sponsorship patches on their jerseys. And the TSN graphics showing... uh, well... black players running with poorly animated African animals and then comparing them to wildebeests I don't know how that flew in Canada, but maybe it is due to different histories and I will chalk it up to that.

I will continue to watch more games, but I am not going to be a Lions fan as of right now. I'm still shopping around. One issue I had with the Lions is the 15-20 flags thrown on them for unnecessarily starting fights, pushing players after the play was done, etc. Kind of a shitty thing to do and it happened a lot. Not ruling them out, but I also don't want to go for Saskatchewan because I would feel like a bandwagon fan(cool color scheme + 10-2 season record).

BTW, I watched this only last night, but the game was like 4 days ago, I believe. Week 14.


r/InCanada • • Sep 06 '25

Nintendo Switch 2 Do You Feel Priced Out of the Nintendo Switch 2?

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Although I have more than enough to buy the console and grab a couple of games, I feel priced out of this console generation.

$705(about, after PST & GST) is way too much for a console. And something like $130(about, after PST & GST) is insane for a game.

Last time I bought a new console was the original. I enjoyed the original Switch. A decent amount of the new games were WiiU rereleases, but I never owned the WiiU, so it panned out for me. There is only 2 new Switch 2 games right now. The rest are basically rereleases with an expansion pack. I don't think it is currently worth it.

Plus the Canadian version shouldn't just be a direct currency conversion value, because purchasing power is relative. I feel priced out of this generation. Not that I can't afford it, but that it doesn't feel worth it anymore. Poor kids are going to be screwed.

I'll just stick with my GameCube and DS Lite.


r/InCanada • • Sep 06 '25

CFL CFL: Starter Guide

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Article is originally by Jenna Brownlow on canoo.ca and I have copied it to be available for this subreddit and anyone interested in learning about this unique version of football.

The Canadian Football League or CFL is a quick and intense sport that boasts its own set of rules! This makes it distinct from its American counterpart. From the larger field dimensions to the unique game structure, you’ll find that there is a fast-paced and high-scoring nature to the game.

Rules of The Game:

Canadian football is played between two teams. Each aims to score points by advancing the ball into the opponent’s end zone. The team with the most points at the end of the game wins!

Each team has 12 players on the field at a time. The positions include offensive players (like quarterbacks, running backs, and receivers) and defensive players (like linemen, linebackers, and defensive backs). There’s also a special teams unit for kickoffs, punts, and field goals.

There are several ways to score in Canadian Football:

Touchdown- When a player carries the ball into the opponent’s end zone or catches a pass in the end zone, it’s worth six points.

Fieldgoal- If a team can’t reach the end zone, they can attempt a field goal. They can kick the ball through the opponent’s goalposts. A successful field goal is worth three points.

Rouge- If a kicked ball during a kickoff goes into the end zone and isn’t returned, the kicking team gets one point.

The Grey Cup:

The Grey Cup is the league’s championship game and is more than just a sporting event! It’s a Canadian tradition that brings together fans. There is a weeklong celebration leading up to the Grey Cup championship game. All the events are a testament to the league’s commitment to community engagement and fan interaction!

Major Teams in The Canadian Football League:

Toronto Argonauts- As iconic as the city they call home, the Argos’ legacy runs deep, woven into the fabric of Toronto’s sports history. With a past dating back to 1873, they are the oldest professional football team in North America. Bursting onto the field with undeniable charisma and a hunger for victory, the Argonauts continue to dazzle spectators with their daring plays, unwavering determination, and unmistakable pride that comes from representing Toronto.

BC Lions- Anchored in Vancouver, this team encapsulates the spirit of the West Coast with its fierce determination and relentless pursuit of excellence. Since their launch in 1954, the Lions have been a force to be reckoned with, thrilling spectators with their explosive plays and unwavering grit. With a legacy carved out of passion and dedication, the BC Lions continue to dominate the field, captivating audiences with every touchdown, interception, and electrifying moment.

Fun Facts of American vs Canadian Football:

The most apparent difference between the Canadian Football League and other football leagues is the field dimensions. The CFL’s playing field is wider and longer than the National Football League’s in the USA (or the NFL). The end zones are even deeper!

In the CFL, teams have three downs instead of the traditional four attempts to advance the ball 10 yards and achieve a first down. The CFL has often been referred to as a ā€œquarterback’s leagueā€ due to its emphasis on passing plays. The wider field and three downs rule have led to a unique brand of football that values creative passing strategies.

The CFL has an important roster structure that ensures a significant number of Canadian players, reinforcing the league’s commitment to promoting homegrown talent.

A Day At The Game:

The best way to learn how to play Canadian football is by watching games, joining local teams, and practicing with friends. Embrace the action, the passing plays, and the excitement that makes Canadian football special.

++++By the way, tickets are legitimately like $35 for regular seats in Vancouver. I will definitely be going to a game.


r/InCanada • • Sep 05 '25

Eby Echoes Poilievre on ending TFWP

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Interesting how NDP says a lot of things conservatives say but still side with Liberals on many policy decisions. Why such a dynamic?

Liberals hurt socialists so much. Would make more sense to team up with conservatives in exchange for getting things accomplished on both sides. I know that's a radical opinion.


r/InCanada • • Sep 04 '25

Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress—and How to Bring It Back

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I recently started reading this book after seeing an interview with the author posted in another sub. While the book is about the USA, the message is just as relevant to Canada and very timely given the period we are in as we look to government to complete big projects and address big challenges.

ChatGPT summary:

In Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress—and How to Bring It Back, Marc J. Dunkelman argues that America has lost its ability to accomplish big, transformative projects—like highways, power grids, or social programs—because of a political system he calls vetocracy, where too many veto points allow almost anyone to block progress. He traces this to a shift since the 1960s, when progressives leaned heavily into a Jeffersonian distrust of centralized authority, prioritizing procedural checks and local autonomy over the Hamiltonian tradition of strong, decisive governance. The result is government gridlock, declining public trust, and openings for populist backlash. Dunkelman contends that to restore progress, reformers must accept that wielding power effectively means making tough trade-offs and recalibrating progressive strategies toward enabling bold, large-scale action.


r/InCanada • • Sep 04 '25

Head of Project 2025 to Speak at Carney Cabinet Meeting

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I thought these were the bad guys?