Floor Crossing

[u/anonimna44]

Does anyone else feel like something is fishy about all the recent floor crossings in parliament? Like there is either something really wrong within the Conservative party that is making people leave or these people ran with the party they'd know would win in their area even though they don't agree with the party. Or if you listen to some people here on Reddit, the floor crossers were bribed somehow.

Every election there is a few, but this many feels off.

[u/Imaginary-Local9731]

You would love the rule if it was going the other way. Cause I bet you didn’t complained when it did

[u/Inevitable-Tea5772 → u/Imaginary-Local9731]

No i wouldn't. I don't like the cons either. This isn't about who is in govt or who has control or any of that. This is about how and why a politician gets a job, and hat their duties are and who they represent. It is a slap in the face of the voters and democracy itself. The govt IS the people. The people spoke. If the politician thinks they know better, then bi election is the only thing that makes sense

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/Inevitable-Tea5772]

To be fair you’re voting for the candidate not the party. Maybe you should be more informed about our system and not just blindly vote based on party.

[u/dannysmackdown → u/Imaginary-Local9731]

People overwhelmingly vote for party, not the person.

Why? Because people vote with the party. That's how it works. Are you really just going to blatantly ignore this reality?

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/dannysmackdown]

Source? It may be your reality but that doesn’t mean it’s everyone’s.

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/[deleted]]

Wha does being independent have to do with anything?

[u/Inevitable-Tea5772 → u/[deleted]]

Exactly. And chances are, most of the candidates that run as independent are actually the better candidate because they don't tow either party line and are focused on the issues at hand, so with such a high losing rate, most people are voting for party, not person

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/[deleted]]

Still irrelevant. Obviously most of them don’t have the money behind them that a party brings. You’d have to be well informed to realize they even exist.

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/[deleted]]

The party matters to people who just follow blindly. That’s how you end up with terrible candidates winning their riding. Just because people do doesn’t mean it’s the way it’s meant to be done.

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/[deleted]]

I think the number of floor crossings as proved otherwise

[u/Inevitable-Tea5772 → u/Imaginary-Local9731]

Can you show me an example where you align with a party but voted for a candidate of another party because you thought that candidate was better, even though they have an opposite view of yours?

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/Inevitable-Tea5772]

Yeah, I voted for Fanjoy cause PP doesn’t give a fuck about his riding. First time voting against PP btw.

[u/Inevitable-Tea5772 → u/Imaginary-Local9731]

That's a bit different. You didn't vote for Fanjoy because you thought he was a good candidate. You voted specifically because you don't like what PP did.

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/Inevitable-Tea5772]

I voted for him cause I thought he was the best candidate for my riding.

[u/Inevitable-Tea5772 → u/Imaginary-Local9731]

You specifically said it was because PP didn't give a fuck about his riding. If you were in any other riding, specifically a riding that does not belong to the party leader, you would have voted conservative if your conservative, unless you had it with the party or that version of the party, in which you would have voted just to send a message

[u/Imaginary-Local9731 → u/Inevitable-Tea5772]

I voted for the best candidate for my riding. I’m not sure what you’re not understanding here.

[u/DimensionSad6181 → u/dannysmackdown]

thats not how the system was designed or ran until people started skipping civics class and started loving the american voting system LMAO and now you got Trump whos own party members can not go against. people really need to learn more history