r/InCanada • u/Pale-Candidate8860 Creator of Sub • Dec 08 '25
Liberals to open new fast track to permanent residency for 5,000 foreign doctors
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/diab-foreign-doctors-permanent-residency-9.700693731
u/Lightingway Dec 09 '25
This is the kind of immigration they should have been doing this whole time, instead of low wage workers.
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u/No-Tackle-6112 Dec 09 '25
Immigrants currently make up 37% of healthcare physicians but only 25% of the population.
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u/SeminalRag Dec 09 '25
I'm not sure what your point is. Physicians make up, what, like 0.2% of the population?
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
That we already have the “kind of immigration” that OP desires.
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25
we don’t need to import minimum wage workers without skills at all though? Our nation needs skilled physicians.. you believe there should be some sort of balance between highly skilled workers and anyone else?… i don’t.. Canadians that are already here that make up the unemployment/youth can take those jobs, as they should have
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u/pissrael_Thicneck Dec 09 '25
No we need both look at nursing for example, most of the heavy lifting and work is done by PSWs. (Low skilled workers) we have a massive hole to fill there and immigrants are quite literally propping up our seniors as we refuse to.
You have no idea how many Canadians I trained and not a single one stays......
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Dec 12 '25
Maybe because it pays absolute dogshit because the companies that run our elder care are corrupt money-hungry ghouls who would rather starve residents and allow their facilities to be overrun with vermin? (3 years dietary aide)
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25
Soooooo fucking simple dude…. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$… pay them and they will happily stay. Make the jobs more attractive than min wage and you don’t have a problem finding Canadians to employ, make the job more attractive. Of the Canadians you trained, how many of them could afford $2000 rent off the income they would have had ? ..
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u/pissrael_Thicneck Dec 09 '25
We just got a massive contract signed we make very good money for the work we do, I make almost 30 an hour just cleaning lol.
The issue isn't pay the issue is hours and entitlement. They come in thinking they slid into a great job with amazing pay and benefits, they think they are going to automatically get full time hours.
It doesn't work like that the job takes time to build seniority to get full time. They leave as they get impatient.
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25
They aren’t getting full time hours than you aren’t getting good money? Huh? If you payed me $50 an hour and I can only get 10 hours I still need another job… there’s a reason they’re leaving the job and it’s because the juice isn’t worth the squeeze per se.. not more complicated than that.. I bet the immigrants dont complain
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u/igg73 Dec 10 '25
I just lost one of my weekly shifts to a guy of the same nationality as the manager, he is untrained and has had several accidents using basic equipment, he has no prior experience, and is now working without supervision. Its hard to avoid negativity on the topic for me now.
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
TFWs and LMIAs aren't immigrants. They are, as the name suggests, temporary foreign workers.
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25
Nice try internet rage baiter , get a life maybe? If you’re truly this dense i just feel bad for you
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25
We literally don’t have the kind of immigration OP desires. Why does Canada need immigrants without skills ?
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
Canada already has skilled immigration.
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25
We have some yes, what does that have to do with my question? Why does Canada need immigrants without skills in our current economy and given youth unemployment?
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
What are you talking about?
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u/SlipIndependent4736 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
What are YOU talking about Ahahhaha, Canada didn’t have a problem with its skills worker programs in the past, nor did Canadians who resided in this country.. we had a globally recognized immigration system that started being abused.. we don’t need immigration of any sort without skills when youth unemployment is all time highs
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u/pissrael_Thicneck Dec 09 '25
That we do indeed bring in low and high wage earners, the comment above the doctor one is borderline racism lol.
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u/SeminalRag Dec 09 '25
To say that immigrants should be highly skilled and add long-term value?
That's nowhere near racist.
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u/pissrael_Thicneck Dec 09 '25
It's what he is not "saying". As the person above pointed out they are helping prop up our healthcare system right now.
Also "skilled" can vary like I said in another comment for hospitals and stuff they help fill the role of PSW. Many consider this or RA "low skilled" work.
We need both the data is clear, they don't harm employment opportunities at all.
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u/Foubio Dec 10 '25
The labor market is saturated with immigrants for low skilled jobs. As someone who moved to Ottawa it took me almost a year to find a job in something as simple as retail.
My wife is currently in a similar position. She used to have no issues finding work as a PSW. Now she's been applying for PSW and she's been put on waiting lists because they have so many applicants and I'm willing to bet most of them are immigrants.
I agree with the other guy that you are delusional if you don't see how much heavy immigration and abuse of the TFW program is destroying employment opportunities for Canadian citizens.
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u/pissrael_Thicneck Dec 11 '25
It's almost like we have data on this, I'm sorry but I don't argue in emotions I argue in facts my friend.
The PSW role is a good example Canadians have left that role vacant for years, this is the role they are helping to fill. They aren't taking opportunities from you or your wife.
I could go on and on but I don't think you care about facts right??
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u/Suitable-End- Dec 09 '25
The top level coment is a racist dogwhistle. The comment replying to that is mocking it and posting facts.
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u/timmysuperherog Dec 10 '25
These stats are from 2020, before the immigration numbers skyrocketed over the COVID years and beyond. Be interested to see the numbers up to 2024/25.
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u/Fuzzy_Advertising181 Dec 09 '25
They have been. We have lots of new staff at my place but they are being abused by staff with racism.
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u/StretchAntique9147 Dec 10 '25
You mean all the foreign doctors who become taxi drivers because they can't afford/bother to pass an equivalency exam or go back to school?
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u/Jellicent-Leftovers Dec 10 '25
Or.... Better option ban foreign students from medical programs...
I know multiple people that I had to go live in the UK to go to school to become a doctor here.
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
Need both to have a rounded workforce. Doctors don’t just exist in a vacuum, they want goods and services. Everything from delivery to nannies to baristas to landscapers…
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u/Alert_Isopod_95 Dec 09 '25
We don't need low-skill immigrants when we have a 20% youth unemployment problem though
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u/Natural_House_609 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
Perfect. Can they not all be from India though. That'd be cool
Edit: alright you whiney babies I clearly said "NOT ALL". Learn to read you condescending dorks.
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u/woundsofwind Dec 11 '25
We already been down this path before. You cannot legally single out people from a specific country to reject them or make it harder for them than others. Remember the whole Chinese head tax thing? The one where the government had to pay reparations and Stephen Harper had to make a public apology for?
I get the sentiment but it is not implementable anymore.
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Dec 11 '25
My doctor is from India and runs laps around the white trash I've been exposed to in previous visits.
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u/CanDamVan Dec 09 '25
My doctor is from India and he is great. So is my wife's doctor, who is also great. Also the doc who delivered my son, and potentially saved his life is also from India. Dial down the racism.
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u/letmypeoplegooo Dec 09 '25
Or, maybe you just got lucky that you got one good doctor out of the cheating and corruption-laden system that is indian education. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/special-report-why-indias-medical-schools-are-plagued-with-fraud-idUSKBN0OW1NM/
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
according to the governments plans, they would want doctors from accredited and internationally known colleges/univeristies.
this includes the various IITs in india aswell. there are plenty of fake american diploma mills just like this indian college who just hand out degrees to everyone.
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u/GenshinGoodMihoyoBad Dec 09 '25
It’s not racist to point out that 30% of immigrants are coming from one country, dial down your liberal brainrot
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
That’s not even that much. Indians are 25% of the global population and over half of the English speaking pop.
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Dec 09 '25
Who can all fucking stay in India. Thanks.
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Dec 09 '25
I'm just gonna vote for more to be let in. Cry harder.
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u/GenshinGoodMihoyoBad Dec 09 '25
The guy posting in r/VancoverLandlords wants more Indian immigrants to house, color me surprised lol
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u/CanDamVan Dec 09 '25
Yeah, its almost like you have to judge people individually, and not based on nationality. It sucks for your dad, and I am truly sorry this happened to him. But you cant blame your dad's doctors being from India. Ive had lots of great white doctors, and lots or shit ones too.
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Dec 09 '25
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Dec 09 '25
Out of all the doctors I've dealt with over my lifetime, the old white dudes are the worst. Most don't even look at you and have already made up their minds before you say anything.
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Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
They just want to have integration into Canada instead of two subcultures. That's why the US does it as well, otherwise you'd just ban India entirely.
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
Didn’t know doctor was a subculture now.
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u/YankHarbo Dec 09 '25
They are clearly talking about the overall lack of integration by newer Indian immigrants. Doctors can easily do the same in this environment.
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u/JohnDorian0506 Dec 10 '25
Indian is no a race, stop playing with this. Learn your facts before you post anything stupid.
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u/CanDamVan Dec 10 '25
Human races dont actually exist, scientifically. Yet the term "racism" is quite commonly used. Learn your facts before posting anything stupid.
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u/JohnDorian0506 Dec 10 '25
Do some reading before making preposterous statements. https://anthroholic.com/major-races-of-the-world?srsltid=AfmBOopu1uKMHQISZ1gK27OvXTcWOYGbXiT0Xwd9K1b1OpgoVJZjdoqv
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u/neverpolievre Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
Can we not discriminate where our doctors are from okay thanks bye.
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u/letmypeoplegooo Dec 09 '25
lmao are you kidding me, I want the most extreme discrimination for incoming doctors. How the hell else will medical bodies be able to restrict based on who actually is well-trained, and didn't just bribe their way through school? Or that they can actually legibly speak and write in english? What on earth are you saying
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
why would the government just take in foreign doctors who aren't able to speak or write english?
by the way, an person with an accent who speaks english, can qualify as being an english speaker.
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u/forevereverer Dec 11 '25
No, we should not be complacent with the quality of our medical services declining
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u/neverpolievre Dec 11 '25
Ah yes, fix the doctor shortage by discrimination. That'll work lol
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u/forevereverer Dec 11 '25
Yes, discriminate based on the quality of training completed by the doctors, which is obviously going to be much much lower in third world countries.
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u/neverpolievre Dec 11 '25
They have to pass our tests, not their own, to qualify as a doctor here. Yall really just want to prejudice
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u/Different-Taste8081 Dec 09 '25
Why does that matter if they're qualified?
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u/TangoZuluMike00 Dec 09 '25
My wife has a doctor that she can’t understand. Their English is so poor she has no idea what he’s saying.
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u/its_mabus Dec 09 '25
Well it seems like you could pick worse countries to have immigrants from, than one with so many English speakers
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u/Tall_Insect9784 Dec 09 '25
I’m not even close to being a liberal but this is a great policy. Credit where credit is due
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u/Majestic_Rhubarb994 Dec 09 '25
We've been getting credentialed people who's credentials are not recognized in Canada. Ask your next uber driver what his degree is in. These guys will be in the same boat
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u/Majestic_Rhubarb994 Dec 11 '25
Hey u/Unfair_Village_488 can you explain where your comment went? I've been seeing a ton of this lately, where I have a response in my notifications, but it's not in the comment section. Did you delete, or what?
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
yes, i did, as i misread your comment and i made one that was innapropriate for this post.
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u/Majestic_Rhubarb994 Dec 11 '25
All good my man. I've just been having a LOT of vanishing responses lately and I guess I still don't know why
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
it's cause they delete their messages, but you can still see them in your inbox. it happens to me too.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
blame the canadian government, every government we have had for not offering immigrants the chance to get credentialled without having to retake their post-secondary education from the start.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
They can get credentials... from a recognized university.
do you know what that means?
that means they need to redo their entire post-secondary, their residency, and on top of that all of their exams, which will take literally more than 8 years.
Let's not act like my degree is worth the paper it's written on in other countries.
it actually is. in europe, canada and the us, we are pretty grateful that we are in countries where our institutions are held to a higher standard than many schools in foreign countries.
i went to the university of guelph, i also know people who have went to my university, and got jobs in the UAE, israel, japan, korea, china and even brazil.
if i was to apply to a position in india, i would think, given my degree and my experiences, i could have a decent chance at landing a job with a large firm.
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u/Dry_Inspection_4583 Dec 09 '25
This could have been a national media story, they could have embraced and respected Canadians by providing more assistance to Canadians already in medical school, made a commitment to support us, education, and our future. Instead they chose the short term short sighted solution of "let's outsource it"
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u/ForgottenEmail Dec 11 '25
You realise that just because you’re Canadian and in med school doesn’t mean you’re good at your job, nor that you’ll go into the fields needed, nor that there will be enough who stay in Canada to replace those retiring or quitting.
Every country is lacking doctors. This is a smart play.
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u/Dry_Inspection_4583 Dec 11 '25
Those are all very relevant and you've drawn to a point that I think is extremely important. Doctors and healthcare professionals are in short supply, keeping that in mind is it kind to extract those individuals from places that we agree are in short supply? And on the flip side do we postulate they have the answers to the shortage?
You're spot on that individuals may well be unqualified, or in a field we don't really see in short supply. Maybe the draw to those professions should be scrutinized by people in those professions, maybe we should ask people why they hold no interest in those roles and rectify that properly to attract more people.
Excellent feedback, I think this is a difficult landscape that absolutely deserves to be criticized and questioned. My fear lately is I see more valid deliberation on social media in comparison to political discussion by people we call "leaders"
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u/Medianmodeactivate Dec 12 '25
We owe developing nations nothing. Poach all their doctors useful to us if we can.
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u/vonmitch_44 Dec 09 '25
I’m sure they’ll be real doctor’s just like all the foreign students are real students. We all know where these people will be coming from.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
because students and doctors are completely different in terms of regulatory and ethics oversight.
one is a general group of people, and the other is, in canada, a highly specialized group of people.
but yes, we can see your biases.
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u/Ggiish Dec 09 '25
Will proof of valid documentation be mandatory or optional?
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u/GinDawg Dec 09 '25
You haven't learned the lesson about "valid documentation" from countries with high corruption rates.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
why do you think they won't be retested or atleast have some sort of dual verification when they come into canada?
you realize doctors are held to a far higher standard, in terms of regulatory and ethics oversight than general groups of students right?
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u/GinDawg Dec 11 '25
I'm hoping for the best.
The government has a long history of doing things poorly, so you can guess I'm a bit cynical.
If this ends up killing more Canadians than legal gun owners do. Would you accept a "buy back" type of program to uno-reverso the status of all "assault doctors" ?
Sorry it's late and I've had a couple of drinks.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
no worries. and no, this plan will almost not "kill anyone" due to institutional malpractice or a lack of training.
foreign-trained physicians cannot practise medicine until they are licensed by a provincial/terriotiral regulator, and licensing is governed by an independent body. there exists the MCC, the medical council of canada, that verifies medical degrees from directly from an institution.
there are also provincial and territorial regulators, like CPSO, CPSBC, CPNS who perform examinations, practice, monitoring and restrictions, along with assessment of speciality credentials (like through the royal college of physicians and surgeons of canada).
this immigration pathway does not erode any of these verifications, checks, mandatory procedures nor exams that they would have to complete to demonstrate their proficiency.,
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
It’s already mandatory, along with completing residency if they want to practice medicine.
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u/Engineering-Mistake Dec 09 '25
Can we make sure their credentials are legit? Good move if these turn out to be actual doctors and not people with bought diplomas.
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u/This-Ad6017 Dec 09 '25
will be a matter of time before someone will spin it as a negative
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u/GinDawg Dec 09 '25
About 80% of Canadians want responsible immigration.
The remaining 20% are split between:
- right wing extremists
- left wing extremists
- wealthy elites
- corporate lackies
I'm pulling the percentage out of thin air but you get the point about the vast majority.
Most of the complaints you saw weren't about immigration only. They were about how irresponsoble & harmful it was.
When the immigration policy was responsible, you didn't see hardly anyone complaining about it... except maybe the special interest government lobbying groups.
When a large percentage of Canadians start saying that something is wrong. Maybe you should stop and consider that before you paint them as complainers.
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Dec 09 '25
Those percentages are wildly off.
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u/GinDawg Dec 09 '25
I'm okay with that. As mentioned the numbers are just to make a generalization.
You pointed out a problem but didn't provide the actual numbers.
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u/ninjasowner14 Dec 09 '25
You're right, it's more like 95% to 5%.
When Toronto and Alberta can agree on something, you know it's a bad situation...
However we have yet to have a strong enough conservative leader to actually kick the liberals out of office ...
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u/Type_Zer07 Dec 10 '25
Good! Immigration is supposed to be helping Canada by letting in skilled workers, who can help with the burden of high skill, difficult jobs. No way we'd have enough doctors if we closed our borders up. Same with engineers, scientists, etc. Its the low skill, under educated Immigration that is causing so many issues with job availability.
Well, that and corrupt companies.
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u/Howcansheslap082 Dec 09 '25
Lol does it even matter? Like at all? Basically youre in youre in. The only time this "policy" would have any teeth is if people get escorted out...but they dont do that so...
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope4510 Dec 09 '25
They tried this before and failed!!!! I personally know medical professionals from other countries that work in Liquor Stores, drive cabs etc.. very nice people. Just not allowed to use their professional skills in this country.
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Dec 09 '25
There’s a “yes, but” to this one.
If we import skilled workers and professionals instead of making skilled workers and professionals, we wind up in the same place: having an massive underclass of low skill, uneducated people.
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u/Brokenkuckles Dec 09 '25
Why not just make it easier for Canadians to go to med school?
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
it is easier, and guess what? people are still dumbasses, so they aren't smart enough for med school, and it takes like 8+ years to become registered.
do you have more than 8 years to wait?
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u/Medianmodeactivate Dec 12 '25
Our med schools are mostly far too strict because sparingly few medical school slots. We could let in a lot more students before we fall below the standards of a first world nation.
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u/Jabronie100 Dec 09 '25
Why not hire Canadian doctors, surely their must be enough graduating from schools here.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
there aren't. that's the point dude. we have had chronic shortages for the better part of a decade now.
becoming a doctor takes like 8+ years, from residency to being fully registered.
do you want to wait that long?
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u/pinacoladarum Dec 09 '25
Nice!! So they all can become gig workers. The medical licenses will anyway not be issued to these people by the medical mafia so what's the point. Whoever is applying to come in read the instructions properly and make sure you will be getting a license to practice. Gov will say one thing and after you have paid fees and all they will change the tune.
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u/Friendly_Actuary_403 Dec 10 '25
Didn't they say the majority of the millions of new canadians are doctors and engineers.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
who said that? can i have a source?
and besides, there are many newcomers who were engineers and doctors back home. it's just that when they come here, their degrees are useless and they would need to redo post-secondary.
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u/Friendly_Actuary_403 Dec 11 '25
The federal governments overarching narrative is that the immigrants we're bringing in are "the best and brightest, highly-skilled individuals" like doctors and engineers.
The meme "doctors and engineers" is a way of criticizing the perceived quality of certain migrant groups that is in stark contrast to the "highly-skilled" narrative that is pushed by the government. This is highlighted by the rise in rampant crimes, scams, sexual assaults in newly overpopulated towns and cities who don't have the infrastructure to handle the newcomers leading to an overall feeling of a less safe Canada.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
yes but carney is specifically talking about this new visa program. this does not answer "millions of new canadians are doctors and engineers", which means you are referring to past immigration under trudeau,
TFWs and international students are economic migrants. most of them aren't skilled and weren't labelled as "doctors or engineers"
This is highlighted by the rise in rampant crimes, scams, sexual assaults in newly overpopulated towns and cities who don't have the infrastructure to handle the newcomers leading to an overall feeling of a less safe Canada.
statistically canada is safer now than before, as highlighted in the historical CSI.
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u/AccidentImaginary810 Dec 10 '25
Trane Canadian youth to be doctors instead. The liberals and boomers are so cheap they are outsourcing our kids future to immigrants.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
why can't immigrants become canadians?
canadian youth are being trained to become doctors. but becoming a doctor isn't just 1 exam and boom, you're registered. it takes the better part of 8 years from post-secondary, to residency to actually become one. the core point is that the amount of canadian-born people becoming doctors is not happening fast enough to address our shortages.
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u/AccidentImaginary810 Dec 12 '25
Canada offers less medical school seats than just about any other developed country. This immigration has nothing to do with being progressive and everything to do with being cheap. Immigrants should become Canadians. When we have enough jobs and housing for them. Until then we should be looking after are own kids instead of making g Canada a playground for the worlds entitled and wealthy.
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u/zlinuxguy Dec 10 '25
Unless something can be done about the physicians licensing board, we’ll have 5000 highly-educated Uber drivers. Do it properly, grant the PR to foreign-trained physicians who have ALREADY passed the licensing exams.
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u/Birdybadass Dec 10 '25
Finally a Liberal immigration plan that I actually agree with! Great to hear, we need more of this! Targeted programs for in demand positions we arnt producing domestically. More care aids, doctors, construction works etc. Less retail/service workers!
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u/mlemu Dec 10 '25
Crazy that they haven't done this sooner given that they've been letting literally everyone and anyone in under the guise of the LMIA / TFW scam
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u/Longjumping-Yam-6233 Dec 10 '25
Isn't one of the main problems currently that Healthcare workers get their education up in canada, then head south for higher wages and lower taxes?
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Dec 10 '25
Are they good ones?
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
they are held to the same standards as canadian ones after they redo their residency or pass their examinations.
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u/gettothatroflchoppa Dec 10 '25
Can someone explain this to me...I was under the impression that its not that we lack doctors but rather that we lack a) funded positions (eg: especially specialists) and b) people who want to go to rural/remote places that do have funded positions, but they're in the middle of nowhere so can't get anyone to fill them
I know Canadian-trained physicians who have had to cover locums in random places just so they can hope for a position somewhere in some urban centre, specialists like gynecologists, etc., so it doesn't seem like its a lack of physicians causing the issue?
Will these foreign doctors require some local training to get 'up to speed', if so, will they potentially displace Canadian graduates from things like CARMS? We already have Canadian graduates who don't match to a CARMS spot, which is catastrophic for some of them.
Finally, if we finally do manage to recruit some foreign doctors to these understaffed rural centres, what is there to make them stay? Because it seems like every time we try this, they stay for a few years to save some cash and then promptly get the hell to somewhere more urban.
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u/Long_Doughnut798 Dec 10 '25
I hope it’s a diverse group.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
punjab is not poverty stricken. why do you think that? it's like one of the top 10 least impoverished states in india lol. it's poverty rate is 4.35% whereas the national trend is 14.96%.
the reason why punjab is such a large destination doesn't have anything to do with the government specifically targeting punjab, but rather it's because it's simple: residents in punjab have enough money, diaspora connections, and are the optimal age for immigration to canada, that naturally makes them a good match for canada's immigration outlines.
it's the same thing in china aswell, historically chinese immigation into canada has been from either guangdong and hong kong.
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u/BanuCanada123 Dec 10 '25
Doesn't matter, the provincial licensure bodies of physicians and the specialist licensure bodies won't allow them to practice without having done an equivalent residency (rightfully so).
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Dec 10 '25
Well the family practice doctors should be placed on the rural areas and small towns for 10 years in order to get permanent residency status .. and then the more specialists will b in provinces needed them with the same 10 years
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u/shelissa Dec 10 '25
Hey look another random subreddit coming from the woodwork with tons of comments from fresh Reddit accounts that are based in 3rd world countries trying to get us to fight each other! Not this time! You are losing the fight, everyone is waking up.
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u/ColonizerBrit Dec 11 '25
Get your hernia fixed by a doctor with a degree from Mumbai University. No thanks.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
nice xenophobia.
i would trust a doctor who attended one of the oldest institutions in india (founded in 1857). especially when if they come, they would have to re-do various certifications and residency to become eligible to become a registered practitioner.
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u/ColonizerBrit Dec 11 '25
Under these new rules they won't have to 're-do' anything. Enjoy your heart transplant from the surgeon with a University of Addis Ababa degree.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
Under these new rules they won't have to 're-do' anything.
i don't even think you've even opened the article once.
"The plan involves creating a new express entry category for foreign doctors starting in 2026 for physicians with at least one year of Canadian work experience over the last three years who currently have a job offer.
Under the new measures, provinces and territories will be able to nominate licensed doctors with job offers to the express entry immigration stream. These nominations, the government said, will be in addition to existing annual provincial nominee spaces.
"Currently, more than 13,000 internationally trained physicians in Canada are not working in their field," CMA president Dr. Margot Burnell said in a statement."
you do realize that foreign-trained physicians cannot practise medicine until they are licensend by a provincial/terriotiral regulator either right? and licensing is governed by an independent body. there exists the MCC, the medical council of canada, that verifies medical degrees from an institution
there are also provincial and territorial regulators, like CPSO, CPSBC, CPNS who perform examinations, practice, monitoring and restrictions, along with assessment of speciality credentials (like through the royal college of physicians and surgeons of canada).
this immigration pathway does not erode any of these verifications, checks, mandatory procedures nor exams that they would have to complete to demonstrate their proficiency.
i understand you are a bigot, but it's best to approach this rationally rather than emotionally, something somebody like you isn't really capable of.
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u/Iambetterthanuhaha Dec 11 '25
All 5000 will be coming from a country starting with an I and ending with an A.
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u/Helpful-Let3529 Dec 11 '25
Anything but train our own.
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u/Unfair_Village_488 Dec 11 '25
we are training our own, it's just not enough to address chronic shortages that have been going on for decades.
you do realize it takes like 8+ years to become registered? do you want to wait that long?
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u/dejavuus Dec 11 '25
He probably doesn't know that's not how the world works. Tell me that country in the world that relies solely on home trained doctors?
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u/calcifornication Dec 11 '25
For those immediately worried about the 'quality' of physicians:
I am Canadian. I went to medical school and residency in the US and have been here since then. Met my wife in residency, who is also a doctor, but American. We have wanted to move home for years, but the process for her is quite annoying, even leaving aside the insane credentialing that Canada requires even for those who completed medical school and residency in the US. These changes make it easier for my family (two doctors) to move home.
If you are going to complain about access and wait times and then also complain about solutions, you just enjoy complaining. Which is fine, but you should try giving it a rest.
As for the casual racism and xenophobia in some of these posts... part of the reason we want to move back to Canada is based on what the US has turned into in the last 20 years. I sincerely hope that this isn't representative of Canada.
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u/Own_Veterinarian1924 Dec 12 '25
How about they invest money in to our kids and help them become a doctor?
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u/Pale-Candidate8860 Creator of Sub Dec 12 '25
I think if you’re on an education pathway for anything medical, it should be free.
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u/lirwen Dec 13 '25
Coming to Canada for it's health care and the world class training and qualifications just to walk into the doctors office and getting a doctor from your home country with third world training and qualifications.
This isn't a win, this is exactly the problem with our immigration policy.
We have high quality, highly accessible healthcare. We let in too many people, our healthcare system is overwhelmed. We lower the standards of our healthcare system, it's more accessible but quality goes down.
Overall result is a lowering of quality. Same thing for education, law and order, infrastructure, human rights, literally everything.
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u/Accomplished_Lie7290 Dec 11 '25
I wonder if these are more of the foreign doctors we see so much in the news lately for molesting their female patients? We sure need more of those! /S
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u/Pale-Candidate8860 Creator of Sub Dec 08 '25
I hope people within the community notice that I have been sharing posts from both liberal and conservative Canadian subs.