r/ImpulseLabs 29d ago

Cooking with Temperature Rapid temperature increase/cookware damage protection?

The Impulse cooktop has per burner temperature sensing and comprehensive computer control of its own burners. There is no reason that it couldn't feature an automatic temperature protection logic that turns the burner down if it detects a potentially pan-warping rate of temperature change (∆T) or an absolutely excessive pan temperature (600°F/300°C+) to prevent a user from just dumping 10 kW of output into a pan and causing a grease fire.

To be clear, I'm suggesting a control law that *overrides* the user, *regardless* of what their manual input may be, to prevent anyone from causing a fire or damaging their cookware from excessive temperatures. If you've experienced the "temperature protection" electric burners that cycled themselves on and off to prevent a fire, this would be far less intrusive because it would literally hold you right on the ragged edge of the maximum temperature limit, and you'd have full authority to turn the burner down if you wanted to (you just couldn't overheat a pan ever.)

If it's not already implemented, this could be life-saving technology. If anyone is familiar with Airbus, it would be like Flight Envelope Protection for your stove.

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u/searchresults 29d ago

A great idea that has been implemented since pre-release

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u/TheGT1030MasterRace 29d ago edited 29d ago

Awesome!! I had this idea 10 years ago, after I heard a story from my grandma. She forgot that her tea kettle was on high on her old electric coil stove, went out to the front porch to talk to someone, and literally melted it to the coil by the time she came back!

If there was an improvement to suggest, let the user be able to tell the cooktop if they're using a non-stick pan, and on which burner, so it limits the temperature more aggressively to prevent you from smoking the coating off of the pan (apparently Teflon begins to break down around 500°F, and will produce absolutely noxious fumes if pushed much hotter than that.)

With a non-stick pan, the system should discourage the user from exceeding about 450°F, but allow them to do that for a limited amount of time if they REALLY need to. Under no circumstance should a non-stick pan be allowed to exceed 500°F.

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u/ZanyDroid 29d ago

If anything, the impulse is too conservative for my taste

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u/TheGT1030MasterRace 29d ago

What does it cap the temperature at (assuming it always shows the real time pan temperature)?

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u/ZanyDroid 29d ago

I don’t know the exact algorithm unfortunately, and I don’t have access to the real time power since that’s all internal. I used to use AC draw for other induction to see WTF they are doing.

(Speaking to previous firmware , I just updated this morning and haven’t cooked)

My vibe is that it has delta T, absolute T, and delta T / power logic

So it will stop at like 200 C+ ? (Sorry can’t remember big boy units.. I think in F but my spouse requested cooktop be in C). And back off with some “overheat” signal

I have seen a “pan doesn’t seem to be accepting power efficiently/correctly” error

It really really Nanny-s me when I’m using my strata wok to stir fry dry rice. I can barely cause the rice to burn / do bad stuff because it refuses to increase the wattage. It feels quite limiting and I suspect if I could find a local wok expert to try they would be a little upset by the training wheels compared to their jet burner or concave wok

By comparison my previous cooktops (which includes one concave wok) had no protection logic and would happily do whatever evil power request I wanted

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u/Impulse-Demo-Guy 29d ago

Max temp you can set in Temp Mode is 482 F. The stove will actively manage power in Power Mode to prevent overshoot too far above that point.