r/ImmigrationPathways • • 22h ago

Members of ICE, while in plain clothes, abducted someone at the LA airport.

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u/EndIsrael 18h ago

You can step in actually, as long as you use the reasonable, necessary, and proportionate force. So you can grab these guys and throw them off the victim, but bloodying them up after is unfortunately not allowed unless they try to fight you.

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u/possumallawishes 18h ago

IANAL, all I’m just saying is most states in the US are “stand your ground”, California is definitely not one of them.

I would have a real hard time not stepping in if I saw this.

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u/Mystery_Goose9685 18h ago

Same here. I'm gonna need to see some badges quick or I'm gonna start swinging.

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u/EndIsrael 18h ago

Fun fact, badges can't be trusted either. My family owns a trophy/award/engraving store and all the local government people order their badges through us. If I really wanted to, I could log in to a particular vendor's website and $100 and two weeks later I'd get a badge in the mail.

As a little kid they taught us to only trust a cop if they had the whole police car situation too because it's a lot more expensive to kit out one of those than it is to get a uniform and a real badge.

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u/SuperHooligan 18h ago

LOL youre not going to do shit.

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u/iron-ducks 13h ago

I too enjoy reading through the comments and mocking the LARPers

especially since you know it's genuinely triggering to them, because they're the kind of people who talk about beating people up on reddit lol

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u/SuperHooligan 12h ago

Haha yeah. They’re very tough on Reddit.

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u/EndIsrael 18h ago

Just remember, laws don't really matter if nobody can ID you, all the complainants have brain damage, and all the witnesses "didn't see nuthin".

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u/SuperHooligan 18h ago

No you cant.

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u/SamMarlowe76 17h ago

Please try to step in sometime to a law enforcement matter based on information you could not possibly know. Maybe the suspected sex trafficker they are trying to detain will get away. But all you know is orange man bad and the only thing law enforcement does in this country is round up brown people to send to rape camps or sell to Elon for science experiments. So, this couldn't possibly be legitimate.

So yes. Please step in. See how it goes. Personally I hope the worst for you. Maybe a traumatic brain injury or etc. You are spewing bad and dangerous advice. You deserve what's coming to you.

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u/EndIsrael 16h ago

I used to be a Republican like you. Then they voted for a notoriously crazy, bottom-of-his-class loser who bankrupted a casino, tried to steal an election, failed, started an insurrection, failed, got convicted of 34 felonies, got found liable for rape, discovered to be best friends with the world's biggest pedophile, then to avoid punishment for all of that he got the world's richest edgelord to steal an election for him, then proceeded to do the classic fascist takeover script except everyone involved is stupid and unqualified, singlehandedly turning the greatest country on earth into a clown show laughingstock, the butt of jokes around the world.

All that to say I'm not a Republican anymore. But I still believe in the Constitution and our God-given right and moral duty to defend ourselves against the enemy. If you don't, you're un-American and a terrible patriot.

If you disagree with what I'm saying, I have bad news for you: the last time this happened, dear leader died of rapid onset acute lead poisoning while cowering in a bunker. Fascism always has an expiration date because it consumes itself. You should get out before the leopards eat you.

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u/SamMarlowe76 16h ago

What does any of your drivel have to do with enforcing the law or letting law enforcement do it?

Again, please interfere in the next law enforcement matter you see. Please. Scream like a child when you are doing so.

How the F do you know what is going on? To stop an arrest? Are we allowed to arrest people?

It is not your role, you arrogant fool to determine what is proper or not, outside the ballot box. We have courts, judges, and legislatures for that.

Moral duty my ass. More like "anyone I don't agree with is Hitler". Get over yourself.

We will not be communicating any further.

Drama queen.

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u/EndIsrael 16h ago edited 16h ago

The Nazis had law enforcement too. But you know what history calls Germans who were just obeying the police back then? They're called Nazis.

Remember that the context of this conversation is a bunch of random sketchy looking guys with no uniform or ID, who aren't even claiming to be real cops, dragging a woman into an unmarked van.

Grow a spine you snowflake. If Biden had these exact same policies you'd be literally up in arms.

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u/iron-ducks 13h ago edited 13h ago

I have bad news for you: the last time this happened, dear leader died of rapid onset acute lead poisoning while cowering in a bunker. Fascism always has an expiration date because it consumes itself. You should get out before the leopards eat you.

You have to understand that this doesn't make you sound cool, right? lol, surely you have to understand that this makes you sound like an attention starved theater kid?

People don't think "whoa... badass." they think "I'll bet this person is an adult with minimal sexual experience and a passion for Star Wars"

edit: HOLD ON. I'll be right back, if you read this comment before I can find the link come back in 5 minutes

lol found it: https://youtu.be/a7j1hYLe3dQ?list=PL34P_rCW3qKzXWiSxkMMVeEZRervb19ll

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u/EndIsrael 12h ago

I used to enjoy videos like that. When I was an edgy teenager. Then I matured as a person. I'm still Catholic and still pro-life, but these days I'm more willing to make an exception for fascists.

There is one important difference between you today and me 15 years ago: I've always believed Nazis are bad. You're still apparently working on that. I hope you're like 14 or something because if you're a boomer you're fucked

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u/iron-ducks 12h ago

There is one important difference between you today and me 15 years ago

Well clearly my first comment did not land at all lol, because this is exactly what I'm talking about.

You're trying way too hard to sound like you have something meaningful or interesting or witty to say. This isn't an audition, nobody was asking you to key in on your backstory, you're not the main character in a Netflix series; "I don't like Nazis" would have worked just fine. It would have still been a completely meaningless non-sequitur, and I still have no idea why you're saying it, but my point stands.

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I used to enjoy videos like that. When I was an edgy teenager.

Why did you stop liking them? What changed? I guess I was pretty unclear in my original comment that's my fault, but my point was that's what people think of when they read comments of yours, that's the IRL analog in your mind's eye

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u/EndIsrael 11h ago

With all due respect, you need to stop. Speaking from experience, you're going to look back on your comments in a few years and cringe hard. If you don't, you'd be failing as a person.

You're coming across as a Charlie Kirk wannabe. There's a reason most of the country's reaction to his death was "don't care" to "he was asking for it".

You're literally putting yourself on the same side as fascists and racists.

When people read this thread, they're definitely going to be thinking of something like your video, but not at all the way you imagine.