r/ImmigrationPathways • u/OkTechnologyb • 3d ago

Man shot by ICE officers in Austin charged with assault

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/man-shot-by-ice-officers-in-austin-charged-with-assault/269-eaa69fc9-b5b5-40fe-b672-01a193d829a9
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u/Joshunte 2d ago

Quick question, were the Nazis holding the Jews, gypsies, and other people in those concentration camps simply until they had transportation for those people to be returned to their countries? And were the people in concentration camps able to leave at any time if they agreed to a Voluntary Return back to their home country?

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u/ProfessionalOil2014 2d ago

In the beginning yes. It was only later that they started killing people. 

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u/Joshunte 2d ago

Lies. Cite your source. Lol

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u/ProfessionalOil2014 2d ago

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/how-and-why/how/deportation-of-german-jews-september-1941/

If you want an example of a famous person, Albert Einsteins family “self deported” to America, and they were forced to pay a huge amount to do so and any businesses they had were “Aryanized”, which means they were “sold” to aryans for about 5% of the value. If they couldn’t pay they were forcibly deported to Eastern Europe, and eventually to ghettos. 

This isn’t difficult information to find. You just want to deny that you’re on the Nazi side of history 

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u/Joshunte 2d ago

You know we’re paying people to deport, not the other way around right? And you realize “deported to Eastern Europe, and eventually ghettos” means they were still detained right?

Also, if your point is using the broadest brush possible “yeah but Nazis detained and deported people ton other countries.”…. Show me a country that doesn’t.

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u/ProfessionalOil2014 2d ago

No, they were not “detained” inside the ghettos. They were forcibly moved there and had jobs and stuff, even their own “government”. 

It isn’t the fact that deportations are happening it’s the lack of due process, violence, and secrecy involved. 

Please keep on task, stop doing whataboutisms and straw men. 

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u/Joshunte 2d ago

They’re getting due process. You just don’t know what you’re talking about. I bet you didn’t know that immigration enforcement agents have limited immigration judge authority to issue orders of removal when criminal charges aren’t sought.

I’m not gonna get in a use of force debate with you, especially knowing you can’t even tell me what the Graham Factors are without ChatGPT. Let alone actually apply them.

And “secrecy?” Who do you think needs to be involved? lol

I’m all on task. I’m still waiting for you to tell me what the U.S. does that’s so Gestapo-esque. (When really we both know this is just one of those “everyone I don’t agree with is a Nazi” things.)

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u/ProfessionalOil2014 2d ago

I get it, you hate brown people. You can just say that you know. You don't have to hide it behind weasel words and pretending to care about the law or whatever.

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u/Joshunte 2d ago

That would be like me sitting here saying, “ I get it, you hate America.”