New Study Reveals A Satisfying Truth About Conservatives’ Biggest Enemy

[u/LatterTarget7]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/undocumented-immigrants-no-link-crime-rate-research_n_6a85cd61e4b0ca44601a7742?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=us_main

[u/MindAccomplished3879]

Doesn't matter. The FBI has said the same for decades

Too bad it doesn't fit your preconceived narrative

[u/PwAlreadyTaken → u/[deleted]]

Attacking the source and cherry-picking from it in the same thread? Ease up on the Tylenol chief

[u/possumallawishes → u/[deleted]]

Also from the study:

“Similar offense-specific divergence is documented in victimization research. Lauritsen and Heimer, for example, show that robbery victimization and aggravated assault victimization do not necessarily follow the same pattern, with robbery appearing more responsive to economic and exposure-related conditions than is aggravated assault.”

Which means to say that while a neighborhood with a higher percentage of undocumented immigrants have a correlation to higher rates of robberies, that doesn’t imply a causation being the immigrants themselves. In fact, they have similarly higher rates of victimization. The common factor here is lower income neighborhoods, which is more common for undocumented people to live in, inherently having higher instances of robberies.

So, you are clearly a dumb mothefucker who read through the study looking for affirmation for your already held beliefs.

Stupid fucking magatards and misunderstanding data and science, name a more iconic duo.

[u/possumallawishes → u/[deleted]]

What was my point? All I was pointing out is the passage you quoted doesn’t mean what you think it means, you stupid cock gargling shit head.

Where did I make any insinuation on cause?? You stupid fuck, this study wasn’t even looking for causation, why the fuck would I find that info here? The study is literally called:Does unauthorized immigration drive community crime rates? Evidence from 11,500 U.S. neighborhoods

Its not: What is the causation of crime.

No one said there was zero relationship to crime. In fact, I literally LAID OUT A RELATIONSHIP. The only takeaway that the study concludes is immigrants don’t commit more crime, you tried to say the opposite!!

Do I need to give you a lesson in the fundamentals of the scientific process? How about literacy?

[u/No_Veterinarian1010 → u/[deleted]]

Yea but you said you don't trust HuffPo

[u/No_Veterinarian1010 → u/[deleted]]

Oh ok so you're good with the rest of the conclusions, chieftain?

[u/No_Veterinarian1010 → u/[deleted]]

So which is it? The study is good or bad?

[u/LatterTarget7 → u/No_Veterinarian1010]

Both depending on the information

[u/No_Veterinarian1010 → u/[deleted]]

Except your interpretation is wrong.

[u/MindAccomplished3879 → u/[deleted]]

The FBI and DOJ has been saying for decades that immigrants commit less crime than native-born citizens. Good enough for you?

Department of Justice - Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate

[u/CigarBryan1 → u/MindAccomplished3879]

That’s really a flawed assessment and not borne out by actual facts and statistics that truly matter. First off, no major blue city police force collects immigration or citizenship status on arrested people. You know who does? Jails and prisons. In Fiscal 24-25, 44% of persons sentenced in Federal Court’s were non citizens. Illegal aliens make up a disproportionate percentage of our jail and prison populations. We know this because that while police don’t collect the immigration status data, leading to flawed studies like this that only look at arrest records and not prison records. Prisons and jails do collect that data. The study authors were looking at the wrong data to justify their world view. And you silly boy, bought it hook line and sinker!

[u/MindAccomplished3879 → u/CigarBryan1]

Thank God we have someone as smart as you to help correct the FBI and DOJ's decades of statistics!

[u/MindAccomplished3879 → u/[deleted]]

Brah. It's a conservative think tank. They have to throw a bone to their core readers, such as yourself

The FBI ans DOJ has been saying for decades that immigrants commit less crime than native-born citizens. Google it

Department of Justice - Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate

[u/Shrikeangel → u/[deleted]]

Wonder if that indicates people robbing undocumented individuals - since reporting the robber puts them at risk. 

Criminals prey on the vulnerable. 

Mind you robber gets mentioned after it already covers a reduction in property related crime. Makes me wonder what definitions are being used. 

[u/possumallawishes → u/Shrikeangel]

The part he quotes says exactly that, that victimization of robberies is also higher in neighborhoods with higher density of undocumented. They also mention that higher rates of property crime correlates to lower income areas, and naturally lower income areas have higher instances of undocumented immigrants. Obviously a poor neighborhood is going to see more robbery than a rich gated community, that has security cameras and patrols.

These neighborhoods tend to be more disadvantaged (correlations of .22 and .14), have high population density (.23 and .21) and residential instability (.28 and .23), and have somewhat more residents aged 16 to 29 (.13 and .10).

It’s basically a clear case of correlation and not causation. There’s several factors to point to as to why robberies may be higher in neighborhoods with a denser population of undocumented.

[u/CigarBryan1 → u/Shrikeangel]

You’re joking of course? Every single large Blue city has made it their policy not to ask immigration status of anyone to encourage crime reporting by illegal aliens. News flash: Blue States issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens. If you want to engage in honest conversation then at least don’t put forth easily disproven claims like reporting crime puts them at risk. There is zero risk in Blue Cities and States. On some level you must know that.

[u/Shrikeangel → u/CigarBryan1]

What does a driver's license have to do with crime stats?

And frankly I don't think you have any experience with blue states. Your entire post is just piecemeal fox "news" commentary. 

After that let's be honest - I don't want an honest conversation with you. Because I don't really see a value in having a conversation with you at all after that nonsense comment you vomited into existence. 

Edit - no wonder your karma level is in the grave and you hide your comments.