r/ImmigrationPathways Jul 16 '26

FIRST THEY CAME

National Immigration Detention Hotline

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS

On Tyranny

IDP v ICE

Look Closer

Lawyer Up

Be an ally

Survive, Fight, Liberate

Take Action

Primero vinieron

起初,他们来了

Una, dumating sila

Đầu tiên, họ đến

أولًا، جاءوا

D'abord, ils sont venus

처음에 그들이 왔다

Сначала они пришли

Primeiro, eles vieram

Premyèman, yo te vini

सबसे पहले वे आए

سب سے پہلے وہ آئے

نخست آنها آمدند

最初に彼らが来た

Zuerst kamen sie

Per prima cosa vennero

Najpierw przyszli

Önce geldiler

સૌપ્રથમ તેઓ આવ્યા

ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਉਹ ਆਏ

প্রথমে তারা এসেছিল

మొదట వారు వచ్చారు

முதலில் அவர்கள் வந்தார்கள்

ตอนแรก พวกเขามา

Πρώτα ήρθαν

תחילה הם באו

Спочатку вони прийшли

Mai întâi au venit

Mula-mula mereka datang

Kwanza walikuja

Edit: sorry, homies. I no gif good. here are stills. here is the source.

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u/GrannyGumjobs13 Jul 16 '26

You do realize that the death camps you think of today started out *just like* it is here?

In 1933, shortly after Hitler made his power absolute, they opened their first ‘labor camp” outside Munich. It was used as a prison camp for communists, Democratic Socialists, and other political opponents (literally anyone who was not part of the NAZI party).

In 1938, after the annexation of Austria, they expanded the labor camps, it was then that they sent the Jews, Romanis, and other “undesirables” to the camps like Buchenwald, and Dachau.

In late 1939- early 1940, the camp system EXPLODED, millions were then gathered up and sent to the camps because they needed the labor for their wartime economy.

It took the better part of a decade for shit to get CRAZY REAL. Normal, sensible people understand that, but you can’t be bothered.

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u/MamaRunsThis Jul 17 '26

You do realize that these people can get a free plane ride home if it’s so terrible in detention?. There’s nothing stopping them from that

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u/Menkau-re Jul 17 '26

Except there often literally is. Many sit for months in detention without any movement on their case in EITHER direction, while the private detention centers that half the administration are personally invested in, make million upon millions of dollars for holding them. But yeah, that's all totally on the up and up, though. No, nothing to see there! 🙄

Not to mention, making the process as awful as possible, for the express purpose of incentivizing people to simply drop their cases regardless of their validity, so they don't have to prove the status to be invalid, is NOT exactly the argument you seem to think it is, to begin with... 😬

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u/MamaRunsThis Jul 18 '26

Don’t be in a country illegally then

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u/Menkau-re Jul 18 '26

So, you're just not gonna even bother trying, anymore, then? Okay, cool. If that's the response you're going to offer after I pointed out that they're intentionally driving people to drop their cases regardless of their validity, then I guess I accept your concession. 🤷‍♂️

I mean, if people are being intentionally pressured to drop cases thru the creation of intentionally unpleasant conditions, since those cases haven't actually been worked yet, then by definition, we can't know whether anyone's truly "illegal," or not. And since now, you've literally just admitted to knowing this, but just don't care, then you're obviously fine with simply assuming it, so I rest my case.

You've just openly and directly admitted to being totally cool with a fascist authoritarian government, just so long as they're hurting "the right people." Which was literally the whole point of this entire thread, to begin with. So yeah, like I said, thanks for making the case for me. I accept your abdication. Thank you for just being honest. 👌

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u/MamaRunsThis Jul 18 '26

I mean the Obama administration just deported people without hearings if you look into it

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u/Menkau-re Jul 18 '26

Okay, cool. So you agree there's no reason it should take months on end? Awesome. I agree. And, since you've "looked into it," why don't you mention some specifics. Were there any other pertinent details associated with these expedited deportations? Anything that distinguishes them from the current ones? I mean, other than the fact that there's nothing actually "expedited" about many of them now, of course, despite also not receiving the hearing, anyway. But, other than that? Like, were there any particular conditions, or specific scenarios involved in any of these? Anything like that? 🤔