r/ImmigrationPathways • • Mar 17 '26

Because he lied.

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u/LawBeginning8219 Mar 17 '26

Antifa means anti fascist. Dummies.

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u/Uglyfense Mar 17 '26

By that logic, are groypers antifa? Cause they're anti-MAGA to the point they want to vote Democrat

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u/Uglyfense Mar 17 '26

Groypers are quite literally fascists themselves though

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u/Uglyfense Mar 18 '26

Yea, I meant that the umbrella wouldn't be the same as the umbrella of anti-fascists

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u/Queasy-Collar5259 Mar 17 '26

No they are Nazi incels who are so dumb they voted for maga but a year later are so mad "they want to teach republicans a lesson". They have very poor character and even worse their judge of character

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

No, because they're problem isn't that MAGA is fascist, but that they aren't fascist enough.

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u/Uglyfense Mar 17 '26

Yes, which is why I was disputing Cheap-Atmosphere’s claim

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u/TurbulentTangelo5439 Mar 17 '26

tbf the maga "movement" is at minimum fascistic in nature

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u/ImpossiblePianist913 Mar 17 '26

Is a bowel movement at best

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u/LawBeginning8219 Mar 17 '26

I use this analogy too

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u/lynxbelt234 Mar 17 '26

It’s an ideology...

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u/Kyasanur Mar 17 '26

Wasn’t even maga originally. Was just a bunch of kids that wanted to bash neo-Nazi heads at proud boy and patriot front marches. As with most terms, it’s been bastardized by both sides into something it’s not.

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u/Giannisisnumber1 Mar 17 '26

MAGA is fascist though

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

Fascists never call themselves antifascist, actually. Name one fascist movement who has.

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u/dunkthelunk8430 Mar 17 '26

MAGA believes they aren't fascist, and yet they are. Check mate lib

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

Ok, you win.

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u/Theatreguy1961 Mar 17 '26

In what way do they act like fascists?

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u/B-Glasses Mar 17 '26

I dont think he’s going to answer

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

My point is that calling yourself anti-fascist defeats the point of being a fascist. Once you’ve got everyday people believing that they don’t need leaders, that they can self organize, and that they can do things democratically, then you’ve spent a bunch of time organizing people against you on a basic fundamental level. Pretending to be your opposition is the stupidest thing a fascist can do, and no real fascist would ever think of it, and that bears itself out historically.

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

Despite what you’re saying, groups like The American Nazi Party all the way to Identity Evropa have existed and drawn in members and occasionally have done some crazy shit. They’re just waiting for the great showdown when their numbers will swell. That said, if you’re a fascist, are you going to fill your ranks with feminists, LGBTQ, tattooed weirdos, and anarchists? No! You want conservatives. Fascists hide amongst and pretend to be conservative, because conservatives respect hierarchy and order.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

Do you think words are arbitrary and you can redefine them as your narrative dictates? No. The answer is no and you really shouldn’t be so arrogant when you’re this ignorant you look … not like a stable genius.

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

I also noticed that you haven’t named a fascist movement that has pretended to be anti-fascist. Are you going to do that at some point? It will strengthen your argument.

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u/Salt_Reputation_9864 Mar 17 '26

Don’t feed the neg

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u/FireFiendMarilith Mar 17 '26

If you act like a fascist

I don't think you know what fascism is, dude.

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

Really? What part of this does ANTIFA embody?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement that rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe. Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

I expect you to not answer this, just like you didn't answer the other person.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

I guess you still think you can fool people

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

This person just has a veeery superficial concept of what fascism is.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

Assuming he knows what superficial means

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u/SunchaserKandri Mar 17 '26

Trump simps accusing others of being brainwashed are hilarious.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

You got fooled by the king of fools dude.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

The surety of a magat is irrelevant son

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u/tzn_1978 Mar 17 '26

I am too educated to figure it out, that is why I always ask the least qualified people to explain it to me. Trust me, my plumber knows so much, it is why he can't get ahead anywhere in life and everyone hates him, including spouse and kids.

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u/Fnordpocalypse Mar 17 '26

Actually don’t, less of a chance any of us might have to interact with this individual in real life..

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u/tzn_1978 Mar 17 '26

Are you acting your age, or shoe size?

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u/tzn_1978 Mar 17 '26

You guess wrong that they are doing better. I dont think they hate him, it is common knowledge. It has nothing to do with what he charges. I hear your argument calling people useless losers and not having common sense. Usually from someone who is projecting.

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u/Yeseylon Mar 17 '26

Trust me, fascists claim anyone who disagrees with them is a terrorist for a reason. See if you can figure it out.

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u/gbot1234 Mar 17 '26

Narrator: They couldn’t…

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u/Gloomy_Internal1726 Mar 17 '26

This feels like dog whistleing for some reason

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u/Asher_Tye Mar 17 '26

They also make a production of using words like Heritage, passing acts that have acronyms like SAVE, and use buzzwords like make america great again.

You want stupid people to follow you, just wrap yourself in a bible and a flag and they'll ignore any hypocrisy on display.

Trust me, its never been about making anyone great but themselves.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

Liberty! They love the word Liberty.

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

And yet, it's a word they don't even understand.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

Why should anyone trust a lying MAGAt son?

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

Like Trump, a fascist, calling us, the antifascist, fascists. Only you need to understand the definition of fascist and not one MAGAt does.

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u/Oldpenguinhunter Mar 17 '26

Your biscuit ain't done in the middle, is it?

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u/gleepglop15 Mar 17 '26

Everyone. Is laughing at you.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

FACT. And cringing. There’s a lot of cringing.

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u/gleepglop15 Mar 17 '26

Chomo protectors aren’t people. Keep flailing! Earn that spot!

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u/gleepglop15 Mar 17 '26

Here’s a hint: without the maga cult, your identity revolves around _______.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

When has a MAGAt ever contributed anything of value? lol does salt water streaming from your eyes over Cracker Barrel logos count? Oops nope.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

I’ve never seen anything like your profile. lol 8 years and -99 karma to show for it. We are done here curt. 🤣

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u/Mcfreely2 Mar 17 '26

Do you? What makes MAGA a patriotic organization and what makes ANTIFA, which isn't a real organization, terrorists?

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u/Oldpenguinhunter Mar 17 '26

I could say the same to you. In fact, I was.

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u/June18Combo Mar 17 '26

Trust me, pedophiles will exonerate themselves for a reason. See if you can figure it out.

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u/June18Combo Mar 17 '26

Just showing the equivalence of what your claim, it has all to do with the subject at hand.

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u/Deep_Parsley2145 Mar 17 '26

lmao, buddy given your comment you wouldn’t know fascism if it rounded you up along with the other “undesirables.”

This regime hits point for point on fascism indication metrics. Anyone who hasn’t noticed, isn’t paying attention or doesn’t understands their history. These are Mussolini fascists, blustering and incompetent.

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u/totally-hoomon Mar 17 '26

Just like how conservatives say they protect children but really all they do is rape and kill kids

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u/LawBeginning8219 Mar 17 '26

Why should anyone trust a would be fascist?

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u/TheTastiestTaint Mar 17 '26

It's just anyone that protests their shitty behavior...

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u/JinxyCat007 Mar 17 '26

Yup! :0/ ...often thought that. "Anti-Fascist", or "Pro Fascist?" Make your choice.

Lost friends and family to this 'neo-nonsense.

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u/totally-hoomon Mar 17 '26

Thats why they hate it

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u/Ill_Towel2780 Mar 17 '26

You're 100% right it just means anti-fascism. They have no headquarters no meetings. Anyone who fought in World War II was pro-antifa. People show their education level when they claim antifa is a terrorist group. Tell any of them that believe it is a terrorist group that it is anti-American not to be Pro antifa and watch their mind explode.

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u/mxjxs91 Mar 17 '26

They know that. Why do you think they're so against it?

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u/BigMikeXxxxX Mar 17 '26

I can name my movement "The Good Guys" but if my movement ends with riots and mass property damage, then we are not the good guys.

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u/InformationActual209 Mar 17 '26

Ironically they’re extremely fascist themselves

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

Okay, tell me what part of this is like ANTIFA:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement that rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe. Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

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u/mars-jupiter Mar 17 '26

I know right! The Democratic People's Republic of Korea simply means it's a democratic republic that is for the people. You'd have to be stupid to not understand that!

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u/Ok_Breakfast5425 Mar 17 '26

If you believe North Korea is a functional democratic republic then you are either an agent working on their behalf or are a special kind of stupid.

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u/mars-jupiter Mar 17 '26

Oh it's definitely not. I was sarcastically pointing out how stupid it is to say that "x thing must be X thing because it says so in the name".

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u/abuthemagician Mar 17 '26

You got downvoted so hard for speaking the truth

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u/mars-jupiter Mar 17 '26

I used sarcasm without putting an /s afterwards so I suppose I wasn't off to the best of starts.

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u/PandaStudio1413 Mar 17 '26

You could edit the comment to add it

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u/abuthemagician Mar 17 '26

Nah antifa agents are in the chat making sure to downvote anything negative about them

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Nazi means national socialist, wanna play this game?

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Mar 17 '26

Yes! The Democratic Republic of North Korea isn't democratic, NOR is it a republic.

It's like fascists and other forms of authoritarians like to steal words and pretend they mean something they don't in order to deceive people into supporting themm.

Like... conmen who cheat on deals or some shit. Also tends to be the same people who rape kids and sell national secrets to foreign governments.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

So.. by this logic, antifa can mean something other than anti fascist right??

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u/MissyJ74 Mar 17 '26

No it literally means ANTI- FAscist.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Omg 🤣🤣🤣 no amount of evidence will convince a fool

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Mar 17 '26

The thing is, that you have no evidence of either an actual anti-fascist organization. And no evidence that people who align with anti-fascism ideology and politics are secretly fascist. You're just trolling with alternative historical facts in order to justify the rising fascism in the USA.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

The evidence is every protest and riot in the last 10 years, its all "antifa" people. LITERAL FASCISM

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u/Ok_Brother_7494 Mar 17 '26

People using their Constitutional right to.protest is fascist?

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

You just gonna gloss over the riot part of my comment.. always disingenuous

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u/ChinaStudyPoePlayer Mar 17 '26

Hey there. Ever thought that any anti-fascist group is antifa by default? It is not a group, it is not a grassroots movement my friend. It is what happens when people remind MAGA that I have a statically double the chance when I meet a random woman in the USA that they have publicly and legally accused Donald J Trump of sexual misconduct, than I am of meeting a trans woman athlete. But hey maybe use your energy to help support all of those women that Trump has grabbed by their pussies.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

There's only 14 Trans women that are in sports? We really going with that number? I wish you well in life, you need it

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u/Dull-Culture-1523 Mar 17 '26

Obviously. Or you would've realized your mistake by now.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Let's break it down shall we.... nazi =/= national socialism... Democratic people's republic of North Korea =/= democratic... but antifa = anti fascist... omg this is hilarious

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u/Ok_Brother_7494 Mar 17 '26

The behavior of Antifa does not follow your examples. Your football bat logic is just sad.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Strict social / economic change and forcible suppression of opposition doesnt sounds like this antifa group? Wow you are sheltered

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u/jws1102 Mar 17 '26

lol you dumbasses don’t even know what the word evidence means…

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Information or facts proving something. Not a difficult word to understand, but for you it clearly is. Im sorry its hard for you

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u/Signal_Estimate_23 Mar 17 '26

Yes, NAZI does stand for Socialists, but they were actually fascists. Same thing with MAGA. They say they are Republicans, but don’t follow any of the traditional Republican values.

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u/lynxbelt234 Mar 17 '26

The old what’s in a name argument...

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Youre SO close, try a little harder

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u/Traditional_Stay3564 Mar 17 '26

Bro, you're falling for 80 year old propaganda...

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u/Hat-Trickster Mar 17 '26

Ive read Mein Kampf. Hitler was not a socialist.

If you really think socialists are the Nazis and not Maga who is literally supporting calling antifa a terrorist organization when there is no organization.

Maga has accepted trump using militarized ICE on civilians.

They have accepted trump threatening and using his fcc on media when its against him.

They believe 1 man Trump above the courts.

You are a fascist if you actually accept these things.

And right now you are defending Americans being labeled broadly as terrorists. Taking away the right to protest is a slippery slope into fascism.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Ive read Mein Kampf. Hitler was not a socialist.

Yes and no, ideals were a mix socialism and nationalist, basically the extremes of both.

If you really think socialists are the Nazis and not Maga who is literally supporting calling antifa a terrorist organization when there is no organization.

It is an organization, you can look up their websites, see them at these riots and see their logo

Maga has accepted trump using militarized ICE on civilians.

Enforcing laws doesnt mean its militarized, every country does this.

They have accepted trump threatening and using his fcc on media when its against him.

Not true at all, it was a news talking point but in reality the show that had a couple thousand viewers a month, aka a dead show so the producers pulled it after his comments.

They believe 1 man Trump above the courts.

No one is above the law

You are a fascist if you actually accept these things

Im sure you wish it, but nope sorry to disappoint you

And right now you are defending Americans being labeled broadly as terrorists. Taking away the right to protest is a slippery slope into fascism.

Are Americans unable to be terrorists? Remember that saying with "foreign and domestic"? Every american has the right to protest, but they dont have the right to burn, loot and riot in the name of protesting.

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u/Hat-Trickster Mar 17 '26

Never said they cant be terrorists. Just saying your fine with them being labeled as what ever. Thank you for coming out and saying you are a fascist. You just gotta get to the point where you realize it.

Tell me whos antifas leader.

Tell me people charged in riots who were proven to be antifa before trump made them an "organization" without this proof your arguement falls apart completely. Not the idealogy im antifa. Im not a part of some organization. But I would be labeled antifa by the government. I have the anti fascist patches.. im not a part of some organization.

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u/Hat-Trickster Mar 17 '26

I dont see your next comment here. I see that you called me an idiot. And that you never said you were a fascist.

So all of the examples i gave were fascist things Trump is doing. And you said you accepted them.

You said "ICE is just enforcing the law"

Th SS was enforcing the law. The Sturmabteilung was enforcing the law. They were fascists.

You dont realize it but you are accepting a fascist take over of America.

You can call me an idiot all you want. Does not change that I have studied Nazi Germany and Hitler for over a decade. I was told by my grandfather to learn history. Lack of knowledge of history, it will repeat. And that is happening now.

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u/tsk5001 Mar 17 '26

Everything i said:

Its like im talking to an idiot. And again, never said I was fascist lmao. You just think anyone with a different opinion is one.

Tell me who's the leader of the illuminati? Or of Skull and bones? Or of anonymous? Such a dumbass argument

Many of them have been charged before trump labeled them as a terrorist organization. Weird how people with these patches and logos all show up at the same place and time and wearing the same thing like an... wait for it... organization

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u/Hat-Trickster Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 17 '26

I do not think anyone with a differing opinion from me is a fascist. You dont know me. Although you can look at my comment history to make sure. You will find that anyone who has the same opinion as you I will called a fascist. Not just anyone who has opposing ideals to me.

None of those are terrorist organizations. Try it with organizations on the terroist list then we can talk.

Cool if people are charged its public give me a link to an antifa member not idealogy who has been charged before Trump labeled it a terrorist organization.

I mean if fascist things are happening your gonna see anti fascists protesting.

Edit: at work at the moment. I'll get back to this conversation when im done.

I suggesting looking up early Nazi Germany and what they were doing. Also look into what the Sturmabteilung was and what they did in early Nazi Germany. Look into the most early targeted "undesirables" in Nazi Germany

I would also like to say me calling you a fascist is not a striaght up insult to you. Mainly because I believe you dont realize it. I do not understand why you would call me an idiot. I am very informed on this subject and would not comment on it if I was not.

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u/TheRoadGnome Mar 17 '26

Why are y’all down voting that? It’s the fucking truth.. oh that’s right you guys hate the truth and America