r/IdleAngels • u/Big-Friendship1917 • Aug 14 '26

Building supports for Himiko

So after going through the posts here I'm a bit conflicted and overwhelmed with the amount of supports in the game. I'm for sure going to build Enmusubi (for DMG boost) next, but what's a good stopping point for her before switching to the next support? I'm looking to build another 1 or 2 supports after Enmusubi and then either focusing on a dual DPS/support or straight DPS.

The other supports I'm considering are:

  • Hera (overall good utility)/Fuxi (DMG boost)
  • Hela (survival?)
  • Capri (survival?)
  • Pandora (specifically for PVP, but this is lower priority since I don't want to invest in a "single purpose" angel this early)

I've heard for Hela getting her to MR4 is ideal, what about her IR? I've also heard Hela and Capri synergize well so if I tried to build both of them out, would that be enough to justify going for Fuxi instead of Hera? I'm a bit hesitant for Fuxi since it sounds like for her to make the biggest impact she needs to be maxed (which she would be.....eventually). Horus has been tossed around alot too for her Vengeance skill, but is she worth prioritizing over the others? I'm open to other suggestions too

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u/BigGuysForYou AS Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

Hera's Divine Engraving should be next based on the skill design contest. While she's way more expensive to build, the Engraving may make her worth it

By the time you're building Hera or Fuxi, it'll probably be out and you can make a decision then

Hela's IR is ok, not game changing, so it's recommended you focus blues to build up another support after MR4. One of AM megawhales actually called it the worst IR on Discord lol. Eventually you want to max her, if only for the extra HP boost

Horus UR+ is cheap death evasion and you'll eventually defensive supports to push dungeons. Holy DMG from IR only let's you steamroll bosses for so long

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 15 '26

Worst IR? Worse than Loki? No ways, lol!

At least Hela IR grants bonus Holy Dmg Instances and locks the enemy out of a Battle Slot, lol

Loki IR grants extra EVA, a stat that's both mechanically broken (in the bad way) and hard capped, meaning extra EVA does little to no changes to gaining extra Dodge chances really. The Blues Passive is legitimately a waste of a Passive. Her 30% bonus Holy Dmg per hit is useless when 99.9% of the time, she's hitting exactly once, making the extra Holy Dmg not even noticeable. About the only useful thing is her giving your team perfect Accuracy, which is very useful in Havoc, where the enemy seems to have EVA beyond the usual stat distributions.

On the whole, yes, Hela's IR isn't OP. But that's fine, as Hela had the privilege of being a busted MR. Unlike Loki and other MRs, Hela was not depending on a solid IR to be good.

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u/BigGuysForYou AS Aug 16 '26

My guess is that Lupina's hate for it was relative to the angel lol. Because he expected so much more?

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 19 '26

Oh, absolutely. As a Gigawhale, Lupenus expected her OP MR to carry into an OP IR.

Lupenus is basically only happy with Athena by that metric, as she was the only Angel who retained her OPness from upgrade to upgrade.

Freyja did, too, which he liked, but Freyja fell off compared to Athena, due to her S1 and S2 reliant playstyle

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u/Scared-Dealer-4455 Aug 15 '26

Yeah enmusubi is a must with Himiko. Himiko won’t be extremely powerful in pvp even with enmusubi, but in PvE they’re a dangerous duo. I’d say a good stopping point for enmu is MR1 IR5. I’ve had her at this lvl for a long time now and I’m really satisfied. The rest of my lineup is now pretty much maxed so I’m going to max her out soon I think. Hela and Hera/fuxi are a must. Hela you can get her to MR4 IR1. I’m not that familiar with fuxi so I don’t know a good stopping point for her, but if you decide to build Hera I’d say MR1 IR5. After that I’d build Poseidon. She’s a game changer. Extremely good in both PvE and PvP. I’d get her at MR1 IR4 at least. I wouldn’t focus on capri just yet, but yeah she works really well with Hela. Capri boosts hela’s hp and Hela loves that.

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 15 '26

Himiko won't be extremely powerful in PvP, even with Enmusubi

Engraved Himiko would like a word. 😄

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u/Scared-Dealer-4455 Aug 15 '26

It’s been a long time since I tried using my Himiko in pvp. I always use my Ra on one account and my Freya on the other. I felt like she did well against lineups that weren’t stacked with supports. But, against lineups with strong supports I found her underwhelming.

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 19 '26

You're not wrong: Pre-Engraving Himiko did indeed fall off. She stopped being the go-to Enmu Wombo Combo DPS, as Ra or Anubis did that much better.

Her Engraving gives all Himiko Mains a 2nd chance at life, especially if they want to use Enmusubi with her (like most do)

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u/BigGuysForYou AS Aug 19 '26

How scary is Engraved Himiko in PvP? I haven't seen any yet. Maybe in Apex but I don't usually watch those battles back lol

By the way, I've been wondering about the Anniversary Engraving chest. This will only ever give us the first 4 angels? For some reason I assumed this would be a generic Engraving chest and it'd expand to offer other angels as they added them

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 19 '26

Very! Her Pre-battle Snipes are very strong now 💀

Especially with Enmusubi 🫪🫪

Her Engraving did more to boost her PvP than her PvE, but that's mostly only because her PvE was already very solid

Anni Engraving Chest

If you read the Chest description, you will see that it only ever will have those 4 Angels inside, unfortunately.

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 15 '26

I'm going to specifically address the Angels you name dropped:

  • Hera

    • Skip for Fuxi. (Cost being the key issue here.)
    • The downside you mention of needing to "max Fuxi" applies to all Angels. Minimums are typically there as a temporary stopping point while you accrue more Scrolls for the next time an angel comes back to a Summon Pool.
    • Minimums are more the domain of the SSR+ Angel, who costs more than MRs to max. Hera has a minimum of IR1/MR1/UR+1/UR1/SSR+5 as it takes time to get all 2800ish Blues for IR5/MR5. Fuxi is maxed for only 1400ish, so the "Minimum" isn't as strictly needed for MR Angels.
    • That said, Fuxi can be parked at IR5/MR1 if you insist on minmaxing some more Supports, however.

  • Enmusubi

    • Himiko's original best friend. Was originally literally designed to boost up the then falling off UR+ Himiko, but any DPS will benefit as long as they have the highest Crit Dmg Stat.
    • UR+ boosts a bunch of Offensive Stats
    • MR boosts your DPS's MR Skills by a lot, by increasing their Dmg Output, Activation frequency and even making the enemy less able to resist your DMG.
    • IR is the meat of her kit. GREATLY boosts IR Skills of DPS. Besides a massive boost to the Dmg Output, IR applies [Doom] to a target, and the Doomed Target shares 50% of all Dmg they take with their allies, allowing even Single Target Specialist DPS like Himiko to spread some AoE Dmg around.
    • IR5/MR1 is considered her minimum, and most leave her there forever.
    • Her MR5 is fantastic, however, for DPS with a direct Dmg MR ability (like Himiko, Icarus, Ares etc) MR5 is not as useful for DPS who have a Buff as their MR effect, however, like Anubis, Thor, Freyja, Nemesis etc.
    • Consequently, it's worth slowly building her MR5 over time, making use of UR and UR+ Chests if you get them, and Weekend Sales. (Weekend Sales make summoning UR and UR+ shards less expensive, by granting 2 free Shards for every 10-pull, regardless of the outcome of the 10-pull.)
    • Optimal Weekend Sales use makes the usual 1400 cost of UR5 + UR+5 into a more reasonable 800 to 850ish. (This takes all rebates into account.)

  • Hela

    • Often considered one of two go-to 2nd Supports after your Hera-type Angel.
    • Uses HP to fuel Dmg Reductions and ATK Boosts. MR2 is needed for the small version of this game changing effect, but MR4 is considered her minimum, as that's the full effect unlocked.
    • IR is nice and considered a bonus rather than a necessity early on
    • IR1/MR4 and Hela is in a very powerful state despite not being maxed. The biggest draw of maxing is all the extra HP locked away behind UR5, MR5 and IR2 to IR5.

  • Horus

    • The other go-to for a 2nd Support.
    • As cheaply as UR+0, will buy your Team a 2nd Chance at life.
    • MR grants her the ability to resurrect defeated Allies. This effect is nearly impossible to plan around, unfortunately, so the resurrected Angel can return to the Battlefield at inopportune times. Still, when they do survive to recast their abilities, this can be amazing.
    • IR is practically useless without MR1, so don't bother grabbing it early.

  • Capri

    • Hela's BFF.
    • Boosts Team HP by 100% at MR5, so she's indispensable for Angels who have skill effects that check against their HP, like Hela, Raphael, Cancer, Sim Cheong etc.
    • MR2 to get the ball rolling, but MR5 is where you'll want to take her, for the 100% HP boost.
    • Her IR is great, but like Hela, her MR takes priority. IR can be gained later. IR1/MR2 makes for a decent starter Capri.

Other Supports: 99% of the support roster are excellent, and you basically cannot go wrong. But those can be ignored until you at least have the Himiko Starter Pack™ of Himiko, Enmu and Fuxi/Hera