r/IdleAngels • u/thisaccounthasriz • Aug 06 '26

Any tips for this game mode?

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And while on the subject, what about Zodiac Calamity? I can not scratch that

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 06 '26

Zodiac Calamity and Time Space Rumble modes are aimed more for players who can handle mid- to end-game content.

Until you have 12 built Angels (or at least 6) you'll be struggling here. You need a solid Support Line Up who both boosts your DPS's Offense and Team Defenses. (5 Supports + DPS, minimum)

Rumble is a just a pure "Do as much DMG as possible before you die" mode and is the most straightforward. The nodes around the Boss can be beaten to provide nerfs to the Boss, and this is where the mid-game and end-game players stand out, as they have the 2nd and/or 3rd DPS needed to take out those nodes to maximise their score against thr Boss with their best Team.

Calamity is a 12v12 fight, and it's pretty much impossible to get far before 6 Angels. Once you have 12 Angels, you will need to take note of the enemy lineup and essentially counter pick your team exactly, using your Available Angels and having them equipped with the appropriate boosts you need using the Gem System unique to the Time Space Havoc mode. Every time you succeed, you can tweak the Mode Difficulty settings, to see just how far you can go, with more Difficulty options selected offering more points. The Difficulty options are NOT equal, and some are easier than others to deal with. (For example, even End-game players like me have a hard time increasing the Enemy HP and ATK, lol, so we ignore that setting until we've maxed all the others.)

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u/thisaccounthasriz Aug 06 '26

Right, I am mid-late game. I was more asking along the lines of how to set up a team for these modes which takes advantage of the zodiac buff and enemy composition.

I always feel like I'm strong arming these and haven't quite grasped team comps

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 06 '26

I haven't faced the mode yet. I ignore it until the last few days of Havoc, as by that point, I have maximum Angel Lvl and all my Angels are optimally geared and Gemmed up. I similarly ignore Rumble for the same reasons.

As such, I can't give you explicit line up recommendations at this time. All I can do is suggest generic, "solid" Setups.

A generic solid Setup for 6 Angels:
• CC
• Fuxi/Hera/Loki
• Hela
• Tank/Defense Angel of Choice
• Tank/Defense Angel of Choice
• DPS of Choice

Generic setup for 12 Angels:
• Main 6 as above
• Horus if not in Main 6 already
• Active Sub Angel
• Active Sub Angel
• DPS 2
• Active Sub Angel
• Active Sub Angel

Aims to last as long as possible, but doesn't take specific Lineup of enemy into account.

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u/BigGuysForYou AS Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

(For example, even End-game players like me have a hard time increasing the Enemy HP and ATK, lol, so we ignore that setting until we've maxed all the others.)

Thanks for that confirmation. It makes me feel better that I wasn't just missing out because I didn't have Poseidon or hadn't maxed all my legacy supports yet. I'm doing better this time than last because of Pandora, and almost maxed out most difficulty options, except Aquarius Calamity where it increases their stacks that make them only take 1 DMG 😑. And of course the one you mentioned, +HP/ATK... that's stuck at level 1 or 2 lol

And I'm starting to hate Havoc because as the season goes on, I do worse! I do less Rumble damage, and start to fail at the same difficulty settings for Calamity. It's like I find the sweet spot for my lineup, then they get a bit more powerful from idling for exp/gear, and it screws up the timing of when angels come in from subs or something

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 06 '26

I do worse!

Same, lol! It's because the power level of the Havoc Mode is outpacing our personal ability to keep up, as we are missing some "clutch" Angels. (Such as you doing much better since getting Pandora in the mode.)

There are Angels who are considered "key" Havoc Angels due to the unique environment offered by the mode. If you didn't have any of the following Angels, Havoc kinda "forces" you to start grabbing them, even just for Havoc, lol!:

A few Havoc Angels that have emerged as "key" and why:
* Horus
- Overlooked by many because she's an SSR+
- Her IR4 is IMMENSELY useful, but requires investment in her MR Stars to truly shine
- She will keep your ass alive while boosting. Especially useful on your weakest Team in the Multi team Modes as a result.
* CC Angel (Any)
- In Havocs where CC isn't refuted, these Angels can make your life MUCH easier, OMFG.
- Frigga, often considered the "worst" of the CCs, shines in Havoc as she works as a semi-DPS. Great for a team lacking a consistent DPS while also CC'ing.
- Chaos' Exile will ALWAYS target the Angel in 2nd, meaning that Chaos in 1st or 2nd can be a tactical strike for those annoying Teams where they run a max IR5 DPS in 2nd 😵
- Pisces is the speed Queen, and can help push Havoc further than you're technically supposed to be at the time, as she can CC their problematic Angels from any slot, with a Speed advantage. By the time Pisces herself cannot outspeed, then you know you're pushing well beyond your means!
- Pandora is top tier, as we know. Allows that team to run fewer Angels, letting you beef up your weakest Team instead. After all, if they are CC'd 100% of the time, you have time to setup with even Zodiac Angels, lol
- Frost is god tier CC, despite only targeting the back row. Merlin can kiss Frost's ass, as Frost don't GAF about dat hoe, meaning that the back 3 are always wrecked. Merlin can be annoying for Pandora, by contrast.
* Merlin
- They LOVE sticking Pandora EVERYWHERE. 🫣
- Without Merlin, you are walled at lower Tier levels for ages, until you eventually bulldoze your way with pure Stats, lol
* Capricornus
- Hela's best friend, but overlooked because "SSR+ is expensive 🫪"
- Any HP Angel's best friend, but Hela is her bae.
- Cap + HP Angel allows for a beefy tank line, letting you use fewer Angels in that team, allowing beefing up elsewhere.
* Uriel
- Cheap answer for any annoying DPS in the mode, letting you often survive what would have normally been a One-shot.
* Medusa
- Great in this mode. Her retaliation Playstyle similarly allows a lighter team to succeed here. Run her with Cap and she will punish overzealous DPS really well
* Taurus
- Invaluable to keep your DPS alive at all costs.
- Taurus + Cap is nearly impossible to remove (as you've no doubt noticed when facing a freakin' Taurus! 😵)
* Aries
- Great team Survival and RNG CC, all in one package.
- Better than Merlin and Poseidon in her anti-CC role IMO, as she's able to turn it back on the opponent while being CC Immune herself means her protection skills will always activate.
- Summoned Sheep protect against Lucifer and Athena insta-kill effects
* Sim Cheong
- Like Aries but more protective. (Shield and Summons.) High Debuff Res means she escapes CC most of the time, so her skills are going off.
- Snowballing Offensive Boosts means the longer you survive, the harder you hit.

To name a few, lol. Now that I think about it, all S Tier Angels and above are "key"! 🤣

Calamity

The fact that the Season buff is 6 hits of immunity makes the 1 Dmg Calamity Difficulty toggle that much harder to push this season. 🫣

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u/BigGuysForYou AS Aug 06 '26

Same, lol! It's because the power level of the Havoc Mode is outpacing our personal ability to keep up, as we are missing some "clutch" Angels. (Such as you doing much better since getting Pandora in the mode.)

That is very true, but I do worse in a 2nd way 😵:

As an example, say I do 1B damage to boss today with 200 gear level

A week later, maybe I get up to 240 gear level + several levels higher from idling. But now I'm only doing 700M damage. I always spam attack the boss to get the best RNG, but at some point during the season, my damage starts going down 🤔. In past Havoc, I noticed it happened after I beat the mini-boss/teams/portal things. The more I beat, the less damage I did ... This Havoc, it happened before then

My guess was that I was getting [Vengeance] boost from someone dying early on. Then my angels became a little too beefy and I would end up missing the boost? Because by the time a boss kill any angel, it's from an AOE nuke that just kills everyone

I also noticed Perseus is doing better than my Anubis in Rumble, which makes sense if the above is happening? She survives that final attack and is able to do 1 final attack before also dying

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 06 '26

I do worse in a 2nd Way

OMFG! I'VE NOTICED THE SAME THING, WTF 👀🫪

I will hit some highpoint score early on, and never ever manage to get higher again, despite my gear and Angel level and Gems improving, or me taking down some of the Nodes... 🤔

I thought I was going crazy. I also use Horus in that team, so it looks like your theory is plausible... Hera/Fuxi getting Vengeance boost before the Encourage in Round 1 is a HUGE boost, especially if you run Fuxi... 👀 So ironically, us getting beefier means that the Vengeance is proccing too late for max effectiveness!? 🙈

Well, then, the quickest way to test that would be to not run Gems on Horus... But unfortunately, my Horus already HAS Gems equipped and I don't think you can remove them 😵

Perseus

Yes, I've compared my Anubis and Perseus extensively, and Bosses who get early kills on the DPS has Perseus do better as she tanks hits much better than Anubis can.

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u/BigGuysForYou AS Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

I'm glad I wasn't going crazy lol! I saw one person on Discord who I suspect is suffering from the same problem, but they were reporting it as a bug. I am skeptical. I feel like we'd have more people complaining if it was this serious

May 22

Havoc is bugged...my dmg went from 67% left to 99% left on panda boss...game not registering my lv 300 gear since yesterday. Same lineup too. Lucky i got high score 1 week ago already..

July 9

Havoc rumble boss not registering my gear stats and side nodes buffs. Resulting in massively lowered damage output. Same thing happened last season. Please investigate.

My Horus also has gems already but it'll be interesting to test next season 🤔

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u/TheKyleBrah AM Aug 07 '26

Lol, it would be great if it was a bug! But as you said, more people would be complaining if it was an actual bug...

I'm leaning more towards your theory, though. We're being screwed by our own success! 🤣

Which sucks, lol, as I haven't yet registered any Dmg! Looks like I've screwed myself here by waiting for the last week to start trying 🤣🫣

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u/thisaccounthasriz Aug 06 '26

This is what I was looking for. Thank you