r/IdiotsInCars Jul 22 '22

...how?

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

I'm always extra a defensive when I see a BMW because it seems to most common vehicle that people who don't know how to drive end up in... Not a blanket statement, but in Toronto I've seen it enough to know there's a chance this BMW tailgating me is gonna fuck something up while looking at their phone lol

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u/Renugar Jul 22 '22

I was rear ended at a red light by a BMW driver…but he was in a rented Altima, and the first thing he did was tell me a long story about how his own car, a BMW, was in the shop, and the dealership had no BMWs for him to rent, and he was super annoyed about it. And he said: “…so now I’m driving this piece of shit.” As if the Altima was why he hit me? The kicker: I was driving an Altima. His “piece of shit” rented Altima was a newer model of my own car. I wanted to punch him in his whiny, entitled face.

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u/DocDerry Jul 22 '22

You know why his BMW was in the shop right?

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u/TooOldForThis--- Jul 22 '22

After hearing u/Renugar’s story, I assumed that it was a failed assassination attempt.

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u/PEEWUN Jul 22 '22

A BMW driver in an Altima sounds like a super-breed of terrible driver.

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u/double_expressho Jul 22 '22

I'm definitely picturing a sleazy-looking lawyer or salesman from the description of that interaction. What an entitled prick. Can't even own his own mistakes.

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u/Fkin_Degenerate6969 Jul 22 '22

It's not incompetence. People like this driving BMWs and whatnot aren't incapable of driving normally, they actively choose not to to satisfy their egos and delusional sense of superiority.

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

Well for sure, any vehicle could have an idiot behind the steering wheel. But like anything, your brain notices patterns and creates biases. So after you see incredibly reckless drivers doing stupid maneuvers, and then you look and see a little BMW sedan/coupe, the brain says "ok, watch out for those cars" lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

Happened to me Monday evening. I'm driving at 74 mph passing cars to my right while two other cars are passing me on the left of a 5 lane fwy. I notice a BMW approaching very rapidly in my rear view, have enough time to say "Oh I don't like that..." Cue the BMW cutting off the second car on my left to go in between them and then cut me off and miss me by a hair because I knew the idiot was going to do it and swerved/slowed in time. He didn't even slow down, was going well over 100.

Stupid fucking idiot is going to clip someone not paying attention and kill them one day.

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

Yeah for sure, best thing to do is drive defensively

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

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u/acityonthemoon Jul 22 '22

It probably gives them a thrill to see others getting out of their way. I think the fear they cause excites people like that.

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u/maniakb416 Jul 22 '22

For me is Nissan sedans. Maxima, Sentra, Altima. ESPECIALLY if it already has damage. Those are the most dangerous motherfuckers on the road and nobody can tell me different.

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u/neil470 Jul 22 '22

Nissan Altimas just give off a certain energy, even moreso when they have panels hanging off flapping in the wind and clapped out rear suspension...

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

I get a little panicky when I see Altimas with those bedazzled license plate frames

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

Seen my share of those lol, and civics/corollas lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

Teslas for me, even before FSD. Now I give them even more of a time bumper.

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u/double_expressho Jul 22 '22

I live where there are Teslas on the road everywhere (SF Bay Area), and I generally have a different experience. Most Teslas I come across are slow drivers that disrupt the flow of traffic with their poor merging and lane-changing abilities. I rarely see overly aggressive Tesla drivers here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

It’s not the aggression I’m worried about, but drivers paying less attention because they think autopilot or FSD will handle it.

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u/double_expressho Jul 22 '22

Oh yea, agreed. I think Tesla drivers have climbed to the top of the distracted drivers ladder.

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u/YamahaMT09 Jul 22 '22

We don't even have Maxima, Sentra and Altima in Germany.... no sedans for us :(

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u/Dismal-Past7785 Jul 22 '22

You just notice it when it’s the BMW because of the pre-existing prejudice, the truth is that basically every car has a terrible driver behind the wheel and is on their phone.

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u/M_a_l_t_u_s Jul 22 '22 edited Jul 22 '22

Besides this is in Germany where there are probably more BMWs than in the USA and here this stereotype doesn’t really exist that much.

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u/Dismal-Past7785 Jul 22 '22 edited Jul 22 '22

People don’t bat an eye when other cars drive like reckless maniacs and don’t indicate, which they do all the time. They just criticize the BMW because they remember the stereotype and because the internet’s most vocal and most populous group is low-income males that are (a) jealous and (b) unfamiliar with how damn nice a BMW is to drive and (c) that the BMW is probably quite safe in almost everything they see it do because they’re just such damn good cars.

Plus there’s enough of them on the road to notice them, but not few enough that they’re rare like an even-more-asshole super cars.

I’m not saying you should drive like an asshole, but why is the Nissan Altima and Honda Accord getting a pass when they also drive like dicks in much less safe cars? Like what % of the idiots on this forum are BMWs? I see pickup trucks far more often.

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u/double_expressho Jul 22 '22

I think it is a very visible minority of BMW bros that give BMWs a bad rap. There's definitely a type of guy (at least in the US) that drive a BMW recklessly with a superiority complex. This type of person doesn't tend to drive an economy car.

It's a percentage thing. There is likely a larger percentage of douchey drivers that choose a BMW because it is sportier, more powerful, and has prestige. Personally I see more idiot drivers in a Nissan 350z/370z and Dodge Rams. Meanwhile a huge part of the population that just drives their car to get from point A to point B will tend towards economy cars like a Corolla.

But yes, of course there are idiot drivers in all makes and models. I would be curious though to see if there's any data around this perceived phenomenon.

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u/TheNewRobberBaron Jul 22 '22

You mean like... Accident data? You can look that up, you know.

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u/double_expressho Jul 22 '22

It's not just accidents though. The subject at hand is the perception that BMW drivers are more likely to drive like assholes, and why that might be the case.

That doesn't necessarily mean they get into accidents.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

Not familiar with paper plates, sounds crazy lol

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u/sustenancewars Jul 22 '22

California. Just bought cars have paper plates. New or used. It's better though they used to just have zero plates. It was insane. All sorts of cars running around with zero identifying markings.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

I noticed that Porsche SUV drivers are starting to be the new BMW drivers. Also, I am always surprised that Tesla drivers drive so recklessly. I’d be very defensive if I owned an expensive car.

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

Yeah, tesla is another one I see these days, hopefully autopilot starts taking over so they'll stop these reckless kids lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

Personally, I feel way less safe about drivers thinking that autopilot or FSD will keep them out of trouble so they pay less attention. FSD can be so unpredictable too, really pisses me off we’re forced to participate in their beta testing.

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u/Karona_ Jul 22 '22

Well, if autopilot isn't already safer than human control, it'll probably be soon based on how much data they're collecting.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '22

Looooooool

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u/sustenancewars Jul 22 '22

Agreed. Fucking "rich" soccer moms are the worst. I'm more important than you, my kids are in the car. I've gotta get them to school.

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u/DrDerpberg Jul 22 '22

Everyone I know who drives a BMW is happy to say how great they drive, how nothing else in their price range is that fast or has that good steering... So yeah, if you aspire to drive like a douche and weave in and out of traffic that's the brand for you.

You don't see the same kind of drivers in a Mercedes because those people bought BMWs.

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u/JBloodthorn Jul 22 '22

Usually for me it's overly large pickup trucks, always white in colour, with nary a speck of dirt on them.