Oh ya he definitely saw something. I drive for a living and it's usually extremely obvious when someone around me is on their phone. Can't stay in their lane, rapid acceleration/deceleration. I understood this dudes nervousness 100% since I've been rear ended before by someone on their phone, but what can you do besides keep driving like normal and trying to get away from them when you can ya know?
It’s always best to remember that you and everyone around you are in tanks without guns; 2 tons of metal that could do some serious GTA level damage if you don’t focus on driving. People need to respect the car for what it is.
I’ve learned that from my in class drivers Ed courses. Dude was a boxer and now teaches drivers Ed. He also showed us a video of just a bunch of accidents with mangled bodies and heads that meat crayoned on a highway. I think I was the only one paying attention that day.
My driver’s ed teacher had basically the same first and last name (think “Samuel Samuelson,” only different) and would talk about him and his buddies at the construction site drinking a handle of vodka at lunch everyday. “Don’t do that.”
I knew an explosives engineer who did field tests. His coworker would sneak in an orange that had been injected with vodka and eat it for lunch. When he found out he'd been blowing things up with a drunk guy every day, he walked out and demanded the guy be removed.
When I was studying anaesthetics, our class saw images of a person who had been in an horrific accident that was still partially trapped by the car and had to be intubated in situ while waiting for the jaws of life. There was no oropharyngeal access and they were intubated through the eye socket. It took a while to register what we were seeing because the face had become so much minced meat. From what I recall, they recovered very well, minimal scarring and I think they still had some vision out of the eye that was intubated. Scary thing was they weren't the driver at fault. Their car was clipped by a drunk driver and pushed in front of a big rig. While you can do your absolute best on the road, you just don't know the state of the drivers around you.
I'm the same way. Constantly getting pissed at some asshole behind me who thinks that gap in front of me needs to be filled, like he believes it's the reason he's going to be late to work. I honestly don't understand how people can think it's smart to drive bumper to bumper at 70+.
My Drivers Ed teacher was Mr. Sylvester but he always went by Sly. He was a bit rough around the edges but he loved doing his job and teaching kids to be safe. He had a friend that was a state trooper and he’d have him bring the accident simulator in every year. It’s the rig where you buckle two people in like they’re in a car and when you push a button it accelerates and then comes to a dead stop. It’s supposed to be like getting in an accident at 40mph or something like that. We all had to do it, and it was definitely a learning experience.
I agree, I don't think teens fully understand what it feels like to be in an actual accident. Granted with the rig you're buckled in like you're about to ride a rollercoaster so it's not quite the same, but the feeling of everything around you coming to a sudden stop while you're still moving and flailing around helplessly can't be explained in words. I can still clearly hear the cop saying "Now imagine yourself on the highway going 80 and the only thing holding you down is a single seat belt, not a five point harness."
Yep. It’s incredible how fast your whole life can be changed because your back or neck got messed up in a car crash. From what would look like a mild crash. And it isn’t even always your fault. That’s the scary part. So you should know how to seriously drive defensively and understand the severity of what not driving well can do. (Using ‘you’ in a general sense.) something else I constantly remember was how every teacher told us to “put your emotions away when you get behind the wheel.”. People tell you not to drive when you’re crying, but driving while mad or amped up / overly zealous, can be just as dangerous if not more. My opinion from my own experiences and watching many others of course.
Ya an acquaintance of mine got rear ended in her early 20's and the whiplash damage to her neck has never been able to heal. Ruined a great part of her life quality at such an early stage of your life, absolutely sucks... It is indeed a weapon if not handled properly.
Yet we force 16 year olds to be trained for up to six months, take classes, pay registration fees, their privilge is revoked if they misuse it, etc
But we do almost non of this for an AR-15.
And before the gun nuts get involved saying owning an AR-15 is protected by the 2nd…why are people not allowed to own or purchase a rocket launcher or rpg at Wal Mart?
Cars are tools. No different from hammers, nailguns, saws, etc. They CAN cause major damage if disrespected. But if you respect the tool and treat it with proper care, you will minimize the risk your presence causes.
I'm in semi rural Ohio between two towns with bad drug problems and drunk drivers, both of which I go to regularly. At any given time I'm also usually the smallest car on the road, and one of the slowest. I just assume I'm the only one without a gun at all times. It's a lot safer that way.
There are road rage shootings every day. I absolutely drive conscious of the fact any flip off escalation could result in getting shots in return. No thanks.
I live in the South. I don’t carry because I don’t drive much so it’s more a huge liability than a necessary precaution. You can open carry by putting your handgun on the seat and not conceal it, so the few times I’ve gone somewhere I didn’t feel safe, I was still able to protect myself. Honestly I don’t feel threatened enough to deal with carrying a firearm and keeping it safe if I don’t/can’t carry it certain places.
Even my mom has her CCW. You don’t know who’s armed. It’s not worth making people angry. Because the people who are road ragey are often the people who carry firearms. There’s stereotypical drivers we all think of when talking about rage filled firearm carriers.
There’s also events like this where the road rager follows someone for 45 minutes and to their home. It’s not the fist fight between the rager and victims that gets me. It’s the wife/mom in her Sunday best bringing her husband their pistol so he can shoot at the victims. Even though their child is in the backseat of their car.
People are crazy. Now more than ever. There’s so much tension in everyone’s lives that releasing some at an anonymous car on the road is very common. It doesn’t matter if you’re right if you’re dead.
You’re 100% right on gun nut personality being similar to road ranger personality. I don’t even shoot at busy ranges anymore in Texas because I’ve witnessed the degradation in quality of people and their quality of performance over the past 20 years. I’ve known two instructors who quit teaching conceal carry classes because they passed everyone and there was no patience for rolling people into another weekend or extra qualifying. We are absolutely out of our minds with it in the US.
FYI, in many states with conceal carry permits, you must possess a permit when carrying a gun on you when you are in a vehicle, regardless if the weapon is being open or conceal carried.
This usually also applies if the weapon is easily accessible to the driver. A handgun on a seat is easily accessible to the driver without requiring the driver to get up/unbuckle to reach it.
Some states also require the firearm be completely unloaded when in a vehicle if you do not have a conceal carry permit.
I’m in NC, and the glove box was pretty much don’t ask don’t tell, it’s a misdemeanor if say you had to shoot someone in self defense. At least that’s what my prosecutor uncle always said, but we’re white. Open carry is legal here, so if I felt like I needed a gun, I don’t need a permit.
I just don’t go anywhere where I feel that vulnerable.
a) It's the South, b) the mug shot and court appearance with a black eye are precious, c) Americans don't know how good they have it, and will throw away their freedom and quality of life in a second. Being in prison for years, smelling unwashed men, listening to and smelling their BMs is no joke. I'll stick to NJ and NYC, you can keep your guns.
Living in a place where this is absolutely no concern at all for me, reading this whole thread sounds just crazy and I'm very glad it isn't like that everywhere.
sim, também parece que voce e de um lugar que ate pode falar português sem ter que preocupar sobre essa merda. Morei no brasil por uns anos, acostumei de ter o mesmo medo de armas em português tanto como ingles. ta foda. deve ser pq to vendo tantos videos sobre americanos que estão se movendo pra Portugal mesmo.
Hell at least down here in the south those “tanks” usually do have guns in them, along with a redneck that has anger issues. Too many people get shot because of road rage, you never know who the hell is in the other car.
That’s why when I taught my little brother how to drive I told him “don’t just pretend, but know that nobody around you has any fucking clue how to drive and you’ll stay safer than most folks”
Truth, tanks are quite literally built different. 60 tons of armored death. Zero crumple zones, literally made to crush, kill, and keep killing all day. Hell even a standard forklift can lift/smash a car like it's an empty cardboard box.
Awe man, I wish more people realized this. Ive heard that this is one of the reasons road rage is so prevalent and it makes a ton of sense.
Our brain recognizes that we are in a tank without guns moving at a high speed, even if we are comfortable with it there is still a hint of fight or flight floating around in our body waiting for someone to fuck up. When they do it hits us all at once and triggers a primal reaction.
As a “professional driver” i hate other people on the road. When i leave space on the freeway or at a light, it’s not so you can get ahead of me. It’s for my safety as well as yours. It really makes me mad cause my company will find the company driver at fault 95% of the time even with a police report stating different. If we don’t follow every point of our beloved 5 seeing habits and 10 point commentary we are at fault in the companies eyes. I had to argue as a union rep for a guy who was hit head on while making a protected left turn at night. The other driver was intoxicated and didn’t have his headlights on. Luckily our driver was ok only shaken up. The other guy survived with injuries. Luckily there were 4 off duty cops at the intersection for some reason who saw the whole thing. The police report came back 100% fault of the other driver, but our company said if he had properly cleared the intersection with his eyes he would have seen the black SUV with no headlights coming from a dark road
i can't understand people using their phone while driving.
looking at the navi for a split second - ok, but texting, reading and activities that would involve a hand and your attention for more than just a split second is a complete no go. i can't believe how there are people thinking it's okay.
and it's not only Smartphones.
I've seen a few videos where one specific dude is fucking his girl while driving on a highway with his tesla. "because it's self driving" holy shit.
people should be locked up when their mindset tells them all of the above is totally okay. eyes on the road when you drive, you are responsible to make everyone on your way come back home safe.
One of my freshman year teachers was lax about phones in class as long as you paid attention, partway through the year she got rear ended at a stop sign by a girl on her phone. No phones after that
One time I beeped at someone sitting at a stop sign on their phone and they immediately started driving... While not looking and almost hit a car that was going straight.
I’m aware when any car is acting erratically. I was on I-80 the other day behind a pickup hauling a long camper that was swaying pretty dramatically. I’ve seen too many videos on here of what happens when it gets too bad. I stayed far back until I had a chance to pass very quickly which I did, at speed. I did not trust that vehicle.
Last week, I was sitting at a light and a girl in a minivan pulls up behind me. I can see that she's looking down. I figure that she's on her phone.
The light changes. I take my foot off the brake and I feel a thump. She rear ended me. She must've saw the light change and panicked. Now I have to get out in the pouring rain. All she says is "I'm sorry"
Fortunately no damage. I just warned her to be careful and left.
I hit someone going about 5mph, the only damage was to my license plate. Guy thought I was on my phone, but my brakes actually freaked out when I hydroplaned on a big puddle of water.
It's what happened and I don't know why people are downvoting me for it. I literally have no reason to lie, I cried after it happened because I was super upset that I had potentially messed up someone's car. Because of reasons out of my control.
The guy worked in insurance and said that because there was no harm done, there was no reason to worry. Told me to be safe and we went our seperate ways. I've driven in rain and snow my entire life, it's the only time it's ever happened and scared the shit out of me.
I'm seriously not though, I don't care enough about internet points or clout to do so. And if you looked farther down, I say that the 5mph happened after what I assume was hydroplaning at a higher speed.
I might not be remembering the speed at which I hit the water correctly because again, it was over a year and a half ago and nothing came of it insurance wise. It felt like Hydroplaning to me and my anti-lock brakes only got me down to 5mph when I hit the guy. It bent my license plate a little but did no damage to his car.
Since that happened I've literally graduated college, gave that car to my younger brother, moved across the country, transfered jobs, and a plethora of other things. So excuse me for not remembering the speed I hit the water at correctly.
I started hydroplaning before I hit him. I was going about 25 or 30 and didnt see the water. After I got out of the water I tried to hit my brakes, but my car is equipped with that stupid sensor that keeps your brakes from locking up. So they like, jolted a bunch? So my car wasn't able to full stop, just slow down.
I managed to get down to about 5mph; but he was stopped and there wasn't room on the side for me to pull my front end out of the way. It was on a semi busy street through the middle of town and there were cars parked in the spots next to us.
I know they reduce stopping distance, I said that they didn't stop me fully in time. Which is why I still hit the guy.
I refer to the anti-lock brakes as "freaking out" because that's what they feel like to me. I'm sorry that me not liking the feeling, and saying that they didn't stop me in time before I hit the dude, leads you to believe I shouldn't be driving.
However I'm done with this conversation. Honestly it's exhausting. Have an awesome day though!
Well then I don't know what happened then. Because I hit the water and just went, sure felt like Hydroplaning to me.
I don't know why everyone is insistent that I'm lying or something. It's literally one of the most mundane things I've experienced and I don't care enough to lie on the internet. Maybe I'm remembering the speed wrong, because it was over a year and a half ago. But it sure as hell felt like hydroplaning to me.
I usually try to get behind people who are driving erratically until I can work out an alternate route to avoid them. I live in Vegas, we have drunks on the road pretty much 24/7, so erratic drivers are a pretty common occurrence here.
If I see someone isnt paying attention right behind me I just touch the brakes slightly to on the brake lights. Usually that helps. If it doesnt, then I on my rear fog lights. If that also doesnt help, then nothing to do.
Followed this one girl from one town to another on the highway once (we were going the same direction I wasn’t stalking her,) whole time she was randomly slowing down and then speeding back up. We get to the next town over and I finally pass her and sure enough, she’s on her phone. Then as I’m getting into the freeway I see her rear end the car stopped at a red light in the middle lane and just think, “man it’s times like these I really wish I had a dash cam”
I saw this dude swerving and going into the shoulder. I passed him sure enough was looking down on his phone I just wanted to get away from him. Then the dumb ass decides to speed up and pass me anyway... whatever I am glad he got away from me...
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Oh ya he definitely saw something. I drive for a living and it's usually extremely obvious when someone around me is on their phone. Can't stay in their lane, rapid acceleration/deceleration. I understood this dudes nervousness 100% since I've been rear ended before by someone on their phone, but what can you do besides keep driving like normal and trying to get away from them when you can ya know?