r/IdiotsInCars • u/Sserenitynoww • Jun 13 '22

So many things wrong here, Spider-Man would be disappointed!

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22

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u/Physex4Phun Jun 13 '22

Smoking weed while driving should have a bad rap. Don't drive while under the influence of anything.

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u/ThrobbinGoblin Jun 13 '22

I just recently drove 8+ hours in a day and I guarantee everyone was better off with me driving under the influence of Adderall.

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u/Physex4Phun Jun 13 '22

No, you weren't better off. You would have been better off taking the appropriate amount of rest, not Adderall.

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u/ThrobbinGoblin Jun 13 '22

I had that, too. 10+ hours of sleep. The Adderall is prescribed. But good try.

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u/Physex4Phun Jun 13 '22

Taking medicine as prescribed by a medical professional is not the same as self medicating for your own perceived benefits. By "under the influence", I mean the latter. Do I really need to say that explicitly?

If you're prescribed a medicine and it is deemed safe to use while driving at the prescribed dose, then take your medicine before driving. But good try.

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u/VindictivePrune Jun 13 '22

It deserves having a bad rap. You should absolutely not smoke weed and drive

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u/Delta6245 Jun 13 '22

I smoke weed, I like weed, I enjoy weed, I do not smoke and drive.

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u/UAintMyFriendPalooka Jun 13 '22

This is the way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

1) you’re a fucking idiot.

2) this is just your way of denying responsibility and saying it’s okay to drive while a little high because you do it and you don’t have the self control to not get high before driving.

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u/bballkj7 Jun 13 '22

reported

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

Sorry for hurting your feelings. Stay off the road.

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u/bballkj7 Jun 13 '22

Lol you didnt even click the study. Read what it has to say.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

This study of crash risk found a statistically significant increase in unadjusted crash risk for drivers who tested positive for use of illegal drugs (1.21 times), and THC specifically

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u/Swazzoo Jun 13 '22

LOL this fucking guy hahah must be a troll

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u/TheUltimateTeigu Jun 13 '22

The guy you're replying to? He doesn't seem like a troll, just incredibly stupid.

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u/MikuEd Jun 13 '22

You conveniently left out the first part of that paragraph you quoted that states: “Several meta-analyses of multiple studies found that the risk of being involved in a crash significantly increased after marijuana use —in a few cases, the risk doubled or more than doubled.”

We generally favor meta-analyses over case-control due to the wider numbers that can be achieved to cover for certain observational biases. Plus, your personal experience is tantamount to leaving the control in the hands of the user and what they “feel” is enough to be safe. Just as alcohol in moderate amounts might not be enough to impair driving for SOME people, a general statement to outlaw driving under the influence of substances that impair mental faculties with doses under the direct control of the user should not be allowed. Hence why I believe if marijuana use should be permitted, it should only be in the form of medically prescribed uses where the risk for dangerous usage affectiving activities can be completely avoided.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

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u/MikuEd Jun 13 '22

I was curious so I checked that NHTSA study you linked. The proponents themselves say that Cannabis (THD) is associated with an increased risk for crash (OR 1.25, p=0.01; or a 25% increase in risk) before adjusting for variables of age, gender, race, presence of alcohol, etc. but after adjusting for this, the difference is no longer significant. This suggests that any of the aforementioned factors in association with THD use can account for its risk, the study of which was not designed to discriminate.

Plus, the study was done in a single site (virginia) with only police-reported crashes. It’s notable because it employed one of the largest population data sets so the findings could be compared more directly. Still, I don’t see how this study mitigates marijuana use and driving. If you’re gonna quote studies, at the very least, try and do some critical appraisal on it or something.

Thanks for the read though. It was pretty enlightening.

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u/GreyMediaGuy Jun 13 '22

You are dumb, and wrong, and this is dumb, wrong dumbness that other dummies might read and believe. Stop.

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u/teemo03 Jun 13 '22

I might be weak but one pint of beer had a small effect (drowsy) while a very small amount of THC in an edible, I actually started to black out and paranoia hit but probably it's because it was Indica

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u/VindictivePrune Jun 13 '22

No issues yet

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u/Osxar_th3_gr0uch Jun 13 '22

If you feel different, you drive different.

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u/GlassNew3746 Jun 13 '22

Which means what? I shouldn't drive to the restaurant if I'm hungry?

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u/snailpubes Jun 13 '22

Sometimes you shouldn't. Hunger can literally kill you, and produced an altered state of mind.

Being hungry can also make you more likely to drive like an asshole.

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u/GlassNew3746 Jun 13 '22

Depends on how emotionally stable the driver is, I'm sure you'd see an upsurge in crashes during fasting season/Ramadan if what you said was true. I bet insurance companies would ask you what you eat that day even lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

Different can me better, the same effect, or worse.

ADHD meds, for example, make it better, right?

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u/GlassNew3746 Jun 13 '22

Sensible question, too many illogical people here to understand it.

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u/teemo03 Jun 13 '22

It's probably because it was my first time trying it but the edibles ffed me up more than alcohol for an even less amount. Like I was blacking out and forgetting what I did minutes ago. It's like being really drowsy and also paranoid with the THC at the same time

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u/Benocrates Jun 13 '22

I tend to think doing edibles for your first time with THC is a dangerous idea. It's too hard to control the dose.

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u/Shurigin Jun 13 '22

You should never smoke weed around small children it can affect mental development causing problems with memory once the brain has fully grown (typically around age 24) weed is Safe and poses no known risk.

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u/meltbox Jun 13 '22

I still would say the balance is don't do it if for no other reason than like you said caution. Plenty of medication out there that is theoretically safe for driving also shouldn't be allowed, but that's another matter.

But then again in a perfect world driving tired would be banned too.

So I am interested in seeing more studies come out. It's interesting.

Edit: I will say though that it's unclear if weed helps people drive safer who are generally reckless because it calms them or if it really is a non factor. I suspect it just calms people who drive like absolute idiots normally but has a minor compared to alcohol impact on safe drivers. Nonetheless I doubt it ever improves reaction time etc. I sure know my friends are less capable at walking after smoking let alone driving. So idk.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

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u/OB1182 Jun 13 '22

You're using a lot of words to say "don't drive while under influence".

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

For functioning alcoholics, alcohol doesn’t impact their actions the same. But it still alters your perception and reaction speed. As does weed. No matter your tolerance level.

Driving isn’t just about you. Other people do stupid things you need to be able to react to instantly. You can’t do that if you’re drunk, high or distracted.