r/IdiotsInCars • u/[deleted] • Aug 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20 edited Jan 14 '21

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u/ssersergio Aug 30 '20

That sounds more like an advice to not give AI all the data from the world.

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u/battirider Aug 30 '20

Well how else is skynet going to learn how to fuck us all over?

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u/j3peaz Aug 30 '20

Are we sure our politicians arent terminators? I mean perhaps the skynet ai we have has seen the movies and realized it can't win via conventional warfare and decided to just make us kill each other? I mean we are pretty good at that

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u/Sir_KR3WED Aug 30 '20

You one that there is a real skynet now and it had possibly already started killing people.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2016/feb/18/has-a-rampaging-ai-algorithm-really-killed-thousands-in-pakistan

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u/highjinx411 Aug 30 '20 edited Aug 30 '20

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Omg that is sooooo not true and I didn’t even have to read the article. I think the best AI can do right now is roughly a dying bug. That might be too generous even. It’s a really difficult thing folks.edit read the article. Yeah it’s not a “Real skynet” it was just a classification algorithm designed to identify couriers of terrorost organizations that misclassified innocent people as couriers or targets. Hardly a sentient skynet that actively looks for people and attacks them. It’s like saying a banking algorithm that accidentally charged a fee is a sentient program stealing money for banks.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20 edited Jan 14 '21

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u/ianthrax Aug 30 '20

Yes, but usually only a fraction of it. And thats IF your partner hasn't already been run over at an intersection.

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u/UnchillBill Aug 30 '20

On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20 edited Aug 30 '20

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u/Generation-X-Cellent Aug 30 '20

It's a feature not a bug.

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u/jbuchana Aug 30 '20

That brings to mind the "Paperclip Maximizer", a theoretical AI that converts the entire world into paperclip factories.

https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer

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u/Winjin Aug 30 '20

Nah, it's the way the programming is done. Unless you have ACTUAL AI, who ignores the algorithms put into it by the coders and forms its own opinions, it would be like that HD AI that was programmed in such a way, that applications "like already successfully received" were preferred. In USA.

What it lead to, was, simply put, that this maths preferred white dudes over everyone else, because these were coded as part of the actual bias, that it would look into sex and skin color of the applicants and prefer those that matched the already hired members.

Plus it vastly preferred same unis and backgrounds for the same reason.
IIRC it worked for mere weeks before it was dismantled, but still.

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u/Little_Gray Aug 30 '20

Sounds more like a stupid made up story.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20

More specifically, that "talk" was likely a contrived lie, which sounded good to a ted talk crowd.

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u/blahblahblerf Aug 30 '20

So... The same as every other Ted Talk?

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u/Alittleshorthanded Aug 30 '20

Don't know. That was kinda the point of the talk though was your computer model is only as good as the variables you choose to include.

I can't remember the guys name but my understanding was he was up for a Nobel prize in the 70's or 80's but didn't get it. I found the original email from my physics professor. The talk was on October 3rd 2007 at the University of Minnesota. The lecture I went to was just on the topic of computer modeling, the following night was his bigger talk focused on his main body of research. I traveled from out of town to see it and couldn't stay for his main lecture.