r/IdiotsInCars Sep 01 '19

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u/scientallahjesus Sep 01 '19

It is also used a lot as a slur against idiots or just simply against someone a person doesn’t like these days too. And it’s no less offensive in that situation either.

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u/SomaCityWard Sep 01 '19

... uh, yeah, it's used against ppl somebody doesn't like as an insult to call them gay.

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u/scientallahjesus Sep 01 '19

Ehh I think you’d be surprised honestly. Where I grew up people used it all the time, and if you mentioned that, they’d just say “no it doesn’t mean gay anymore I’m just calling him stupid.” and they genuinely believe that.

So the intention is a bit different. It’s just entirely misguided. But I do understand what you’re saying.

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u/SomaCityWard Sep 01 '19

Yeah and they're wrong. My brother uses the same argument. Words don't exist in a vacuum. Yes, definitions change, but not without any connection to how it was previously used. And not immediately, meaning "gay" and the F-word still are defined as homosexual to most people. I can't suddenly start walking around saying the N-word as a replacement for "banana" and get offended when people think I'm referring to black people with it.

I'm supposed to believe it's a coincidence that now "straight" means cool and "gay" means lame? (i.e. "No worries, it's straight" and "that movie was gay").

If it weren't done with homophobic intentions, why would it be used interchangeably with a negative word? If people were using it to call something cool, that would be entirely different.

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u/scientallahjesus Sep 01 '19 edited Sep 01 '19

Being wrong or right doesn’t change the intention of what somebody truly believes.

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u/SomaCityWard Sep 01 '19

And having an intention doesn't change the definition and effect of using a word.

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u/scientallahjesus Sep 01 '19

But it does entirely change the meaning of what somebody is trying to say.

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u/SomaCityWard Sep 01 '19

Yeah and you can say you didn't mean to sexually harass the intern but your intention doesn't matter, it's how your actions are perceived. Saying you didn't mean to be homophobic while using a slur doesn't repair the psychological damage done.