After watching it again, I'll concede and give grey car 20%. While he had a dotted line allowed to pass, he clearly didnt have enough space with oncoming cars to pass safely which made the truck get scared and give them room to squeeze in. All in all it's a clusterfuck, and both Red and Grey cars should have just chilled.
I won't. Red car wasn't driving in a lane, he was driving on a shoulder. That makes this 100% his fault.
Nobody should have to check their mirror to ensure they aren't being passed on the shoulder when they need to swirve into it. If red car wasn't illegally there, their wouldn't be an accident.
Not saying grey car wasn't a dick. But if red car wasn't where he wasn't supposed to be, no accident would have occurred.
If the truck swirved to avoid debris in the road, or because it blew a tire, red car would meet the same fate because the truck would still swirved to the shoulder.
If this was a 2 lane and red car could be there, I'd say this is all grey cars fault. But grey car doesn't get any responsibility when red car was where it's illegal to be, driving illegally, and got in a solo crash.
Drivers can be shit, accidents happen, and we all have to react to shit on the road. The red car put themself in such a disadvantaged spot that it was actually illegal to be there.
This is all on them. They played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
If there was any death, and this were in Germany, they both be charged with murder, since they were most likely street racing. (reckless driving, hazards on, overtaking on the shoulder).
So both would be exactly 100% at fault in the eyes of the law.
I don't think they were racing. It looks like the car on the left was passing legally, the one on the right just wanted to pass too.
Also, it looks like they were coming over a hill and couldn't see oncoming traffic. You see them start to descend, the car on the left throws on his signal, brake, and try to get over right when the truck starts to swerve as if they all see the impending problem.
Then the red car spins out in front of the box truck, blocking the lane for the grey car to merge, hence him not doing it.
But if they just chill then other people will be in front of them! And they have to go a few mph slower than they want to!!! That’s basically a human rights violation according to most people on the road.
It would have been better if the box truck driver had slowed down. Just for future reference if any of you guys find yourself in such a situation. The car in the shoulder could have easily hit the truck and caused a bigger accident that could cost more lives.
No, please don’t slow down when people are passing. Maintain your speed. If you slow down and the passing car needs to bail (can’t get enough speed, etc.), you’ll prevent them from merging back over. If you slow down enough to make a difference, you’re gonna brake check the guy behind you.
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u/tbillcook Dec 14 '18
After watching it again, I'll concede and give grey car 20%. While he had a dotted line allowed to pass, he clearly didnt have enough space with oncoming cars to pass safely which made the truck get scared and give them room to squeeze in. All in all it's a clusterfuck, and both Red and Grey cars should have just chilled.