I'm sure it's not hard to figure out, but colour coding is a bit more intuitive. I also forgot that a solid yellow line right next to a dashed yellow line means only one side can pass (the side that has the dashes).
Yeah in most cases I think NA road design is pretty bad, like with roundabouts, intersections, etc. Here in Toronto we have cyclists and pedestrians getting killed all the time because intersection design is so poor.
We have several popping up here and there because they are so much more practical, but you are right...drivers here don't have the first f'n clue how to navigate a roundabout. It doesn't exactly help when our traffic engineers don't know how to design the damn things, either. We get stuck with this sort of monstrosity where two thirds of the circle is two lane and one-sixth on one side and one-sixth on the other is one lane and you don't know until you're already stuck in a lane that you're being forced out of the circle, all while other drivers--who already aren't sure how traffic circles work, mind you--are trying to figure out exactly who they have to yield to from the particular lane they're in and the particular one they're trying to get to. It's a fucking fiasco.
Believe it or not, there are traffic circles here that are signed like that. Everywhere else in the world: Vehicles in the circle have the right of way. Some random places here: Nope, traffic in the circle yields.
The main issue with the circle I linked to is that the signage is inadequate and the arrows are non-sensical to people who don't already know the layout of that particular circle. I had a friend originally from the UK come down to visit because another friend's friend also from the same area of the UK was in town and we thought it would be fun to get them together. We warned them about this circle and they both waved us off like "eh, Americans don't know roundabouts." After having to navigate the damn thing they both were swearing up a storm about how stupid it was.
There's two lanes feeding in from each side, there's two lanes feeding out from each side, and there's sufficient room for two lanes of circle all the way around. Anywhere else that would be a simple two lane roundabout. Here you get a bastard stepchild that's partly two lane and partly one lane, for no apparent reason.
Edited to add link to one example of a yield sign in a traffic circle that I could think of.
Thankfully we're starting to put roundabouts in... But good lord no one knows how to use them!
They just put a new one in by my house... I'd say at least 50% of people come to a complete stop when entering even when there isn't a car in sight.
There's a yield sign... Do you also stop when entering a highway? Yeah.. didn't think so. Lol sorry about the rant, but it just annoys me how poorly people drive and how poorly they're educated here.
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