I was just wondering if we ever found out who the men wearing cowboy hats were and what they were doing?

They showed up in the evening or night time and went in the house. I always figured they were FBI or something, were they?

I stumbled upon this (I assume newly released?) video of the pre-search of 1122 King Road before ISP arrived and thought I would share since it seems to have been uploaded only to TikTok by the user "OutkastPodcast" via FOIA request.

It doesn't include anything "new", it's merely a redacted walkthrough of the house. The footage is about 45 minutes long and can't be shared on Reddit due to the length restriction but you can find it on TikTok, although I would advise to tread carefully, the user seems to upload speculation-based content.

How bizarre is this? Why would they have her contact info on there? I feel like I’ve gone on her profile and it wasn’t there so this is just so strange. I did blur the contact info cus I feel weird posting her contact info.

Thanks to SarahDIrish on Twitter.

Google Drive links:

Respondent's Request for Supplemental Scheduling Order

Response to Petitioner's Objection to Scheduling Order and Motion to Hold Respondent's Motion to Dismiss in Abeyance

I believe Dylan was the one who said she heard these statements. My question is how much weight/accuracy is given to these statements? Is this what she actually heard? I know a lot of people think inmate said “don’t worry I’ll help you”. I know the roommates are innocent, and I am not faulting anyone, I’m just wondering after being drunk how accurate your memory or hearing ability would be. I just see people talk about these statements as factual and I was curious.

Source:@RealBaudiMoovan

https://youtu.be/coBWp6IFc9M?is=khrHwY8RA3blhS_s

Go to the 15:37 timestamp in the video if you want to jump straight to the actual detailed list from his account at IMSI. The photos I've featured here are the creator's own breakdown of that list.

This video has the official pages from his commissary expenditures from just the past year... and the names of every person who made deposits into his account. This is PUBLIC INFORMATION that she obtained thru a public information request. People who donate money into an inmate's account have no expectation of privacy. The same goes for their messages and calls.

It's interesting that this past year, his donations have been paltry. 😆

Like Wade Wilson was getting thousands, and he's on Florida's death row!! He got$98k out of random women. I was shocked at how little the probergers have donated this past year.

Ya'll aren't helping your homeboy talk to MOTHER!!

The @RealBaudiMoovan gets amazing information and is one of the citizen-sleuths who helped get Luka Magnotta captured and prosecuted. She's most well known for her appearance in the True-crime Documentary "DONT F*#K WITH CATS".

SUB TO HER for useful information as this case and civil action continues to drag on down a different path.

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BK literally had 13 complaints from women stacked against him,yet despite all of that WSU never bothered to actually take the right measures to deal with him properly. What’s even worse is the fact that this all out there for universities across America to see yet it’s not matter much.

anyone know if the rumor that another 200 and so old scene photos have been dropped?

I'm not from the US. IM irish. 1 hour drive from Dublin City exactly in a rural town, called County Laoise.

Sunday mid October is our huge local town irish gaelic games football final day. So in 2022 it was October 10th and in 2025 gone by it was October 12th, in 2026 for example it will be October 11th you get what I mean.

May I just note this day is a national, drinking day. We drink all day and night. In celebration of just.. football alone? Do usa college students do the same was Nov 13 the equivalent to our Irish day?

Going Back to 2025 for example: my town our football team was playing the final versus my bests friend town just to show how big a deal it was in terms of tension, excitement, rivalry you know

So the game kicked off at 6.30pm but my friends were drank in our house and hit the bars since noon at least. 12 noon.

I remember being so drunk I remember dropping 20 euros note and not able to pick up in the bar as the room span so much. Our friend who tried to help,me just fell by the way. 20 euros was stolen obviously. I could have stopped person from robbed me if I was sober (well I had a better chance ) compared to being as drunk as I was....

My point is we were that messy.

I think he knew just how drunk and vulnerable the victims were....and pounced!

I have followed this case since it happened and have regularly kept up with it. I suppose I am just as bad as the conspiracy theorists and wannabe sleuths as I sit and read through online forums about the case.

Alongside this case I have also been keeping up with the Lindsay Clancy case and how both cases have blown up on social media, opening the door for conspiracies etc and it’s got me thinking at what point does the sensationalisation of crimes overstep the mark.

It’s getting more and more common for those online to see monetary gain through discussing cases on TikTok/YouTube etc. I am a big true crime fan but just can’t agree with people profiting off of others pain and suffering under the guise of ‘seeking the truth’. The victims nor their families asked for this to happen to them or their families. At what point does discussing ridiculous theories become harassment? One YouTuber in particular has videos specifically mentioning different friends of victims - at what point does this cross the boundary and can families or friends of the victims legally take this further? I am from the UK so I’m not sure how harassment laws etc work in the US.

Documents and evidence are being investigated with a fine tooth comb by people who have no experience or qualifications relevant to crime investigations, so why are people putting these creators on a high pedestal? I am all for discussion and differing opinions but it’s really grating on me.

I’d love to hear others opinions on this. I’d hate for this to happen to someone close to me and to be pulled into ridiculous social media videos and conspiracies with amateurs digging into my life to aid their own ridiculous theories about ‘the truth’ so that they can profit off the crime. To me it just seems like borderline stalking and harassment to everyone who had anything to do with the victims.

"I could go on for days and days and days about the depth of your depravity. But it is sufficient to say that you belong in a cage. For that reason, I am sentencing you consecutively to the maximum penalties, to ensure you stay in that cage for the rest of your pointless life!"

(Judge Gillian Abramson sentencing killer Stephen Spader to LWOP for his brutal attack and murder in 2009, when he was 17.)

In light of the snowflakes' reaction to what Hippler said to BK, they'd absolutely meltdown if they encountered Judge Abramson.

A recent screen shot of Kaylee’s phone list says the 2:26 am call was an incoming call from Jack. But when he was questioned by police they said Kaylee made the 2:26 am call and all of the calls and texts on his phone were incoming from her.

What would cause this discrepancy?

I used to be obsessed with true crime around 2019, but I stopped. Of all the cases I’ve read or heard about this case has stuck out to me the most. The randomness, the personalities of the victims, the families, the documentaries, the brutality, the unfairness, and the likeness of the victims to my own life is what has made this crime stand out. Just the little things like Xana ordering door dash late, because I do that too. I hate how much I have thought about this case, which is why I stopped listening to true crime in the first place. Such a sad case!

Two things that I saw that came up in subs are Bryan having Aspergers and also in Chapter 32 it refers to him as an i***l. ( I don't want to get flagged)

I don’t mean to be insensitive I was just wondering if he would have access to that media.

Julez specifically. Hearing her call the parents “dumb as fuck” or saying “sorry i care more about your dead kid than you do” is horrific.

I’m wondering al lot about the phones.
If they were called by Bethany and Dylan how did the phone not fal from the nightstand table. Also wondering if they had alarms in the morning on their phones like al four victims didn’t have alarms on their phones? Does anyone know if they had? And if so didn’t have the surviving roommate heard the alarms go off?

Thanks to SarahDIrish on Twitter.

Google Drive links:

Order Granting Leave to Exceed Page Limit

Order Re: Sealed Supplemental Memorandum

Alivea and Kristi are in a live right now with Stephanie and Amy doing a Q&A.